Starview Support Yes or No

[ramjet]

most forums actively ban payservers and payserver support , and also ban cs and any other support that supports cs in any forum , be it privately or pay

so whilst I dont have a problem helping those with balde or combo or dreambox technical or setup issues , I do have a problem helping those who want direct payserver support , or direct cs support , and you will never get that support from me

its one thing to tell somebody to add cccam or newcamd and to read the faq guides as regards how a c line or l line or f line or n line actually works , in theory , but not to allow one payserver to be supported and no others , its all or nothing , and with most forums its usually nothing , ie:- co cs or payserver support

[Shady]

you dont get it do you?

who gives a ~~~~ if no-one else gives the support they should? why should it stop us as a forum helping if we can?
i suggest to you too, that if you dont want to help people then you should stay out of the sv section

[MICKAH]

SV in its various guises screwed punters over, with different boxs, the Irish debacle, the level of service in the UK and now this, which is a blatant phuck you to its users,

yes we are here to help folks, but not to get this shower out of a hole when there is issues or problems with its service, if it were any other box or issue, yes help if we can, but on principal, forums should just direct folks to the people that they have paid, especially when support is offered,

If I have an issue with my UPC service, I contact them, if I have a prob with a C-lion, I contact the folks who provide it, cause I am paying for it,

[brainwave]

some people will help some wont simple as that,most have paid may help others maybe more in the know.

Well you cant get any more expert help from the people that are selling the service, they are supposed to be the experts, at the end of the day they are the ones that know everything about the working of the boxes, or is that just a myth, all they know is how to get money out of your pocket which i have to say, they are defo good at that part.

[Shady]

well to be fair to him, themegakiddy DOES come on here and tells people to contact him via pm as obviously certain issues with sv cannot be spoken about in the forums...

[brainwave]

you dont get it do you?

who gives a ~~~~ if no-one else gives the support they should? why should it stop us as a forum helping if we can?
i suggest to you too, that if you dont want to help people then you should stay out of the sv section

I think im entitled to my opinion in any section, if you dont like it dont reply simple, everything i have posted is my opinion, at the end of the day why should DK accept this, Starview are charging for a service, yet they expect DK users to do their support for free, they are going to be making thousands of pounds for this support, which does not cost that to run a ser***, why should they not suport this forum, after all they are using this forum to sell their support, and their ser***.

[brainwave]

well to be fair to him, themegakiddy DOES come on here and tells people to contact him via pm as obviously certain issues with sv cannot be spoken about in the forums...

Thats why they should have their own, and give access to the people that have paid for it, and by the kiddy coming on here and giving advice he is also selling a service, which DK are getting nothing in return, except the grief of folk if anything goes tits up, and he is not about to answer their questions.

They are making thousands and thousands, they should be well able to sort a forum out not that hard to sort out.

[ramjet]

listen, i get it... sv servers are coonts, we agree on that.. id never go back to cable full stop and as such, havent had a sv since my sv1 yrs ago.
But the fact remains that if we CAN help, we SHOULD help., do it begrudgingly if you must, but do it nonetheless

maybe so , but not with any form of cs including payservers , its not allowed on any of the other forums here so shouldnt be in this one either

the rules clearly state it

Discussions about cardsharing are not allowed, including, but not limited to, cccam, gbox, mbox, etc.

and the mods and admins signatures all say so too

its time the members realised that it is an off-topic subject and they cannot get the simple answers they seek as to do so breaks the rules here , in ANY forum , this one is no different then the blade or dreambox forums in that aspect

cs is banned , end of , ....... so cs support is banned , end of

[MICKAH]

I agree, this is now CS - Payserver, so it falls into the catagory of the others should it not,

[satsmo]

That's a first, I actually thanked shady three times in one thread.

Lads that are opposed to us helping anyone with a SV problem that is not server related know what to do...........don't help simple.

If you have a problem with the way the forum is run we have a feedback section leave some there and we will take it into account and come back in due course.

I also like to point out that we will be the ones to decide which way the forum is run after taking into account what our members feel to be the right course of action.

Either way if the forum doesn't suit all's taste we will have to agree to disagree and go with the majority of our long standing members........... i.e. they like helping so let that be the debate instead of the rather cumbersome CS argument.

If we see direct CS posts we delete, edit or close them. If we miss some it's because they are not reported, I can guarantee that payservers will not be tolerated.

But I can also guarantee we will not leave new or old members without help outside of server issues.

I also see where this thread is going as can everyone else so lets hear from our members in here both new and old. You lads that are opposed we know as you have made that perfectly clear since arriving from other dead SV related forums, hopefully this one still has a bit of life in it.

Almost forgot we did make a sticky related to the matter in case some have missed it http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...-posts-212701/

[brainwave]

This thread was supposed to be a debate on the subject of support ( ie help when boxes go down ) no more than that, and was never intended to be a debate to if DK was supporting payservers in any way shape or form.

[satsmo]

Never said it was, debate away but ultimately the members are the ones who run the show, we answer to them.

I suppose that is what makes DK a forum that is somewhat unique and doesn't tend to turn people away regardless of the nature of support. As said we do not support the server, we do however support our members.

[FixerUpper]

at the end of the day why should DK accept this, Starview are charging for a service, yet they expect DK users to do their support for free, they are going to be making thousands of pounds for this support, which does not cost that to run a ser***, why should they not suport this forum, after all they are using this forum to sell their support, and their ser***.

Hello all, as you can see I don't post so often, as I have found that you can learn far more from simply reading through similar threads than pissing people off by asking the same daft questions over and over. Mods need to have the patience of a saint. Anyway...

Firstly, correct me if I am wrong but DF is now the proud owner of possibly the most visited technical discussion forum in the UK? Many people have came here as members because they, like myself, thought that he was a GENTLEMEN amongst moderators. Firm but fair, and no matter how daft the question or how often it had already been asked he found time to point people in the right direction. I have not forgotten that and I dare say many others who remember him elsewhere haven't either.

So, you have a site owned and ran by a very helpful and respected guy and you wonder why the people who he allows to become a member here have a general propensity to be helpful to others???

Oh, lets not forget your bit about the DK forum not benefitting financially from the inclusion of a SV section. So you would like to see Glen and possibly others going to court or having the site shut down because they accepted funding from an illegal c/s operation???

Use your common sense here and for Gods' sake get rid of those sour grapes you SV haters/KV lovers seem to enjoy so much!

Keep up the good work guys, FixerUpper.

p.s. My SV6 was due to run out on 15th August 2011 but now it shows the end of December 2011. See who can guess how I managed to get it extended without paying...really, guess??

[b2k]

I agree, this is now CS - Payserver, so it falls into the catagory of the others should it not,

While i understand what you mean, hopefully most members with problems will not need support as such from the forum.

Ideally they will simply need pointing in the right direction.
I don't see at the moment passing on the Kiddy's details to much to ask.

However i do not think members will want the forum becoming a sales outlet for him. I'm sure if that becomes the case it will soon be kicked into touch.

[cactikid]

without paying,if so thats even better if it works for you well done.