Starview Support Yes or No

[satsmo]

We have quite a substantial Dreambox section do you honestly think all buy it for freeview or their own sub?

I know where the line is crossed we also know how to moderate the forum and what to allow and not allow. As said we do not tolerate payservers and will not support them but we will support our members outside of servers issues, (now I am been repetitive once again.

Suffice to say the latest raid rumour will unfold soon enough and all will see what is what.

[b2k]

It was kicked into touch before he arrived so kicking it into touch now would be somewhat of a belated approach.

I and I am sure others will find the "sales outlet" quote funny given the nature of our forum, we tend to know how to handle such a concept, i.e. it will never happen.

But should that not be a given?

When i say "sales outlet" i obviously do not mean shop front. which may be why you found the quote amusing

To elaborate slightly , Forums (not just this one) are points of contact for Kiddy and customers and as far as i know the only method available to them both to initiate email correspondence.

So while the boards have no involvement between either of them he's using them to ply his trade.

Right or wrong, just my 2c

[satsmo]

Was that not the case with Eurovox and others although in a different business model?Yes it was not a payserver but buy a FTA box visit a particular forum and you will find firmware that will allow you to view all channel in the N1 days.

Forums have always been used by traders to ply their wares in some form or other. We however keep an eye on how they try to do this.

My post above once again re-iterates my stance on the current model however it is open to review. But only if it needs such.

[FixerUpper]

Why do people want to make an issue out of what is essentially a non-issue.

Because they may have alterior motives???

I am so glad to see a site that does not let "fanboys" get away unchecked. I have to laugh at sites like TW or AfterD... at the way certain people seem to have "carte blanche" to insult and denigrate anything that is not pro KV. If anything, I would suggest, merely from an outsiders point of view, that those forums appear to be in KV pockets for allowing such an overwhelming pro KV stance.

There are two sections to these aforementioned sites...Pro KV or Anti SV If my assumptions about those sites are wrong then the Admin there need to wake up and smell the coffee/sour grapes.

It is truely laughable. Not because KV are bad in any particular way but merely as an insight into peoples psychology. You should have a glance over there when you need cheering up, it does wonders for me. No need to log in to view threads either, like most places.

I mentioned at the end of my last post, by way of a post script, that I had had my server access time extended without having to pay and asked you to guess how this miracle occured.

Well, it won't come as a surprise to some like minded people on here but I got it by trying to help. Nothing more. When it became clear that Paypal was not an ideal method of payment for most people, who can't get around simple personal privacy details in the setting up of such an account, then I offered assistance and alternate ways they could enable people to extend their server access too.

Whether or not any of those alternatives are taken up is anyones guess and if they are then hopefully it will be sooner rather than later, to avoid them (SV) missing the boat.

You see...there is a time and place for being helpful or even constructive criticism.

Good night all, got school in the morning

[satsmo]

We are well aware of ulterior motives but let the two sides debate it to their hearts content.

People have seen through this time and time again but yet it is an open forum and as such we allow a respectful debate on the subject matter.

I understand your stance on the posts, but look across all forums you have mentioned and the same thread has been started exactly as per this one.

And you will also notice that it has been close to ignored as it is of a repetitive nature. And yet we welcome the debate as the members here are more than aware of the current state of affairs between the two.

Plus it is entertaining as you say but to a point. The nature of forums allows those that are commercially astute to maintain a guise of which most are aware.

[themegakiddy]

Because they may have alterior motives???

I am so glad to see a site that does not let "fanboys" get away unchecked. I have to laugh at sites like TW or AfterD... at the way certain people seem to have "carte blanche" to insult and denigrate anything that is not pro KV. If anything, I would suggest, merely from an outsiders point of view, that those forums appear to be in KV pockets for allowing such an overwhelming pro KV stance.

There are two sections to these aforementioned sites...Pro KV or Anti SV If my assumptions about those sites are wrong then the Admin there need to wake up and smell the coffee/sour grapes.

It is truely laughable. Not because KV are bad in any particular way but merely as an insight into peoples psychology. You should have a glance over there when you need cheering up, it does wonders for me. No need to log in to view threads either, like most places.

I mentioned at the end of my last post, by way of a post script, that I had had my server access time extended without having to pay and asked you to guess how this miracle occured.

Well, it won't come as a surprise to some like minded people on here but I got it by trying to help. Nothing more. When it became clear that Paypal was not an ideal method of payment for most people, who can't get around simple personal privacy details in the setting up of such an account, then I offered assistance and alternate ways they could enable people to extend their server access too.

Whether or not any of those alternatives are taken up is anyones guess and if they are then hopefully it will be sooner rather than later, to avoid them (SV) missing the boat.

You see...there is a time and place for being helpful or even constructive criticism.

Good night all, got school in the morning

Very good post!

[themegakiddy]

listen, i get it... sv servers are coonts, we agree on that.. id never go back to cable full stop and as such, havent had a sv since my sv1 yrs ago.
But the fact remains that if we CAN help, we SHOULD help., do it begrudgingly if you must, but do it nonetheless

rather a bot of a contradiction there! as i read in your quotes!

"My Fave Replies from various threads

1: You really are a massive spaz aren't you?
2: I do have a g/f by the way and we have great sex
3: kryptview are immortal u got more chance of nds ~~~~ing sly c/s than u have of kv coming down"

hmmmm you would never go back to cable full stop?? although you appear to quote "kryptview are immortal" hmmm something not right there!

but then again you do also quote "kryptview are immortal u got more chance of nds ~~~~ing sly c/s than u have of kv coming down" think you really need to EDIT THIS hahahaha

[Fellianis Wig]

rather a bot of a contradiction there! as i read in your quotes!

"My Fave Replies from various threads

1: You really are a massive spaz aren't you?
2: I do have a g/f by the way and we have great sex
3: kryptview are immortal u got more chance of nds ~~~~ing sly c/s than u have of kv coming down"

hmmmm you would never go back to cable full stop?? although you appear to quote "kryptview are immortal" hmmm something not right there!

but then again you do also quote "kryptview are immortal u got more chance of nds ~~~~ing sly c/s than u have of kv coming down" think you really need to EDIT THIS hahahaha

The quotes in the sig are from other forum users. You're not that bright are you son? And you claim to offer support pffft you're a dumb arse.

[Shady]

as said above, these are quotes from other members that i find funny.. particularly the kv one... it seems you have as much of a problem with facts as you do with spelling

[barrowmanandrew]

rather a bot of a





hmmmm you would never go back to cable full stop?? although you appear to quote "kryptview are immortal" hmmm something not right there!

but then again you do also quote "kryptview are immortal u got more chance of nds ~~~~ing sly c/s than u have of kv coming down" think you really need to EDIT THIS hahahaha

looks like this could be a contender for shady's "fav quotes number 4.."

[Shady]

looks like this could be a contender for shady's "fav quotes number 4.."

that honour goes to fellainiswig.. made me his reply did

[klever19]

Looks like this thread has run it's course as far as being constructive goes and is about to turn into another slagging match. Just my opinion, of course.