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  • forntida
    DK Veteran
    • Feb 2009
    • 1281

    #16
    Yes. I like a place who can make rules and force us to comply without the people having the right to reject those rules. A place where you contribute ?XXX and get ?XX in return.

    Like the Republic Of Ireland who are going to be forced to accept the New Constitution despite having a Referendum rejecting it.

    The Europeans don't like us and would be happy to see us leave, if it wasn't for our contributions.


    Can the EU overrule our parliament?


    Yes, in certain circumstances. Where European laws are approved by majority voting in the Council of Ministers, then not every national Government need agree to it for it to become law.

    However, there are national vetoes in the most sensitive areas of possible action (forinstance on tax and foreign policy), as well as strong guidelines designed to ensure that only measures better handled at a European rather than national level are dealt with at that European level. This is called the principle of subsidiarity.

    Once a law has been approved at a European level then national parliaments are obliged to turn it into national law, if it does not have direct effect already.



    The European Union : Directgov - Government, citizens and rights


    I can't wake up Grumpy now in case I am accused of Dwarfism

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    • xant14
      V.I.P. Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 2062

      #17
      Originally posted by chroma
      Revoloutionize the Expenses system for MP's

      Justice
      Why should i pay a fortune to house some whiney arsehole in a prison when hes just going to moan that he has to shit in a bucket and slop out each moring, then think its "ok" to sue?
      maybe shoulda thoughta that before committing a crime in the first place.

      Instead of spending billions on prisons we just make inmates play games like the gladiators of old.

      Televise the events internationaly to ward off any would be idiots who think bombing us is fair game, once the taliban catch us handing convicts chainsaws to each other and "stating last man standing wins a pardon" they will think twice of tangling with whats clearly a crazy bunch of bloodthirsty psychos.
      Place a betting system into it and have phone ins to generate even more money, after a few seasons of fun filled maddness the stigma will wear off and corporate sponsors will be dying to grab a piece.
      Proceeds go directly towards the health and education budgets.
      Criminals will think twice before even attempting to commit a crime because it will ultimately lead to death or at the very least permanent disfigurement, terorists will think twice and our kids will get a better education and healthcare system to boot.
      Yeah... well said..... and cut! ok, That's a wrap.

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      • xant14
        V.I.P. Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 2062

        #18
        Originally posted by chroma
        To be honest im a fan of the European Union, at the risk of becomming very unpopular...


        A lot of complaints get slung at Asylum cases, when the reality is that our government get given grants from the ESF and IMF with a specific remit tied to them as aid for asylum seekers (with a bonus subremit for regeneration).
        People see them getting rehoused and given stuff and get pissed off without realising that its actualy costing us nothing. It's all been paid for beforehand from a budget thats unavailable to any other cases and isnt even our budget.

        .
        we wouldnt need money from EU if the asylum seekers werent here.. why do we need them here?
        I understand a few people are coming away from war ravaged places to reach the safety of a sanctuary, but for them to reach one edge of europe, and then not stop until they cross a 1000 or more miles and another sea to reach the ridiculous benefit system of the UK. Now something is wrong there.
        Why do you think they are waiting at the ferry ports of France... coz its better weather over here?

        There is plenty of space for them in Europe, Britain is getting way overcrowded. Charity begins at home.

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        • forntida
          DK Veteran
          • Feb 2009
          • 1281

          #19
          Originally posted by xant14
          we wouldnt need money from EU if the asylum seekers werent here.. why do we need them here?
          I understand a few people are coming away from war ravaged places to reach the safety of a sanctuary, but for them to reach one edge of europe, and then not stop until they cross a 1000 or more miles and another sea to reach the ridiculous benefit system of the UK. Now something is wrong there.
          Why do you think they are waiting at the ferry ports of France... coz its better weather over here?

          There is plenty of space for them in Europe, Britain is getting way overcrowded. Charity begins at home.
          Let's all make opinions fact by voting for a party of our choice on Thursday.

          p.s. how can anti euro candidates stand for election to the euro parliament?
          I can't wake up Grumpy now in case I am accused of Dwarfism

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          • katp
            Newbie
            • Mar 2009
            • 1

            #20
            I agree with the post about the tax credits, my daughter and her husband have a little boy and a mortgage and she lost her job through redundancy but they cannot claim anything to help them even with one of them working the system stinks.

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            • forntida
              DK Veteran
              • Feb 2009
              • 1281

              #21
              On the ten o clock news tonight. A boy of 16 from Scotland was put on the Methadone program. He is still on the program at the age of 42.
              I think it is time for cold turkey, everything else has failed.
              I can't wake up Grumpy now in case I am accused of Dwarfism

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              • thered
                V.I.P. Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 4915

                #22
                Originally posted by forntida
                On the ten o clock news tonight. A boy of 16 from Scotland was put on the Methadone program. He is still on the program at the age of 42.
                I think it is time for cold turkey, everything else has failed.
                if people want to quit heroin they will if they wont they wont its about time the government stopped encouriging people to take heroin by offering free methadone

                all it does is encourage people not help if they want to help put them in away from thier co users and let them turkey why have them all round the same clinics going for methadone with there gang then going to shoot up after it on taxpayers money

                and before anyone says i know nowt i know loads of smackheads they are 95% scruffy winkers who love getting a free ride and are quite proud of the fact they live like it

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                • maca
                  Mr. DK DJ
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 6310

                  #23
                  Originally posted by thered
                  if people want to quit heroin they will if they wont they wont its about time the government stopped encouriging people to take heroin by offering free methadone

                  all it does is encourage people not help if they want to help put them in away from thier co users and let them turkey why have them all round the same clinics going for methadone with there gang then going to shoot up after it on taxpayers money

                  and before anyone says i know nowt i know loads of smackheads they are 95% scruffy winkers who love getting a free ride and are quite proud of the fact they live like it
                  must agree m8 my sister is a nurse and the grief she gets from these people is unbeliveable. we all have a choice weather to take drugs or not. its not as though they dont know the dangers of heroin' crack etc..

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                  • Lainie
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 3062

                    #24
                    those with drink and drug problems get all the bloody help/support they need and it makes my blood boil as they are self inflicted problems. the system bends over bloody backwards to help them. (local support groups etc all over the ~~~~ing place) i had serious health and family issues to deal with in my early 20s (husband had double heart valve replacement and myself 2 miscarriages) there was not a buggar to help us out. he was in hospital 9 weeks and at no point was i offered any help or asked if i was ok (he was getting all the care he needed thankfully) but it was extremely difficult for me to cope as i had a job to go to, house to run and public transport to hospitals is crap.

                    if they break the law they get put into prison (sometimes) where they dont need to worry about bills and even get taught a trade while others work and struggle to pay council tax etc. its all wrong.

                    if i had a drink or drug problem they would be falling over my doorstep to help.
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                    • forntida
                      DK Veteran
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1281

                      #25
                      I was sitting in the bus station this morning and saw the Methadone Munchers coming off the buses to go for their 'fix'.

                      The majority of them were not of this world. I just thought of the poor buggers out slaving to keep this ongoing.
                      I can't wake up Grumpy now in case I am accused of Dwarfism

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                      • melloned
                        DK Veteran
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1215

                        #26
                        I think many people on minimum wage are thinking , whats the point ? , even folk who've never been unemployed or claimed benefits think "f##k it !" , i scrape to live , while many are handed a better standard of living for free , might as well give up and join them ??

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                        • Lainie
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 3062

                          #27
                          oh melloned i wouldnt say they have a better standard of living and hopefully the net will close in on them so to speak. i wish i could wave a magic wand and sort the problem but fact is so many do not want to work and are happy on benefits as they are working on the fly etc. i have nothing against anyone wanting to make a few quid ontop of their benefit but the ~~~~ers that take private lets with rents of anywher betwen 800 - 1400 a month are just taking the piss. however with the new local housing allowance hopefully that will put paid to a lot of that. you would be amazed at the amount of claims i take and they say (esp the lads) oh im dyslexic - cant read etc. firstly thats not the meaning of dyslexic and secondly i bet they can email, text and use the internet etc. how on earth can young people in todays society leave school and cannot read or write?? that baffles me. too bloody lazy to learn more like it.
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                          • melloned
                            DK Veteran
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1215

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Lainie
                            oh melloned i wouldnt say they have a better standard of living and hopefully the net will close in on them so to speak. i wish i could wave a magic wand and sort the problem but fact is so many do not want to work and are happy on benefits as they are working on the fly etc. i have nothing against anyone wanting to make a few quid ontop of their benefit but the ~~~~ers that take private lets with rents of anywher betwen 800 - 1400 a month are just taking the piss. however with the new local housing allowance hopefully that will put paid to a lot of that. you would be amazed at the amount of claims i take and they say (esp the lads) oh im dyslexic - cant read etc. firstly thats not the meaning of dyslexic and secondly i bet they can email, text and use the internet etc. how on earth can young people in todays society leave school and cannot read or write?? that baffles me. too bloody lazy to learn more like it.
                            It's about making a few bob in full time work Lainie (if you can get it !) , let alone on top! , thats why so many are so pissed off with what's available to those who've put into the system for 20-30yrs , only to find they're now entitled to next to nothing due to the drain on the system . A family from anywhere in the eec can move here and claim for everything , or from anywhere else , claim asylum and get the same , hence all the bnp votes! , it's just not fair .

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                            • gmb45

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Lainie
                              oh melloned i wouldnt say they have a better standard of living and hopefully the net will close in on them so to speak. i wish i could wave a magic wand and sort the problem but fact is so many do not want to work and are happy on benefits as they are working on the fly etc. i have nothing against anyone wanting to make a few quid ontop of their benefit but the ~~~~ers that take private lets with rents of anywher betwen 800 - 1400 a month are just taking the piss. however with the new local housing allowance hopefully that will put paid to a lot of that. you would be amazed at the amount of claims i take and they say (esp the lads) oh im dyslexic - cant read etc. firstly thats not the meaning of dyslexic and secondly i bet they can email, text and use the internet etc. how on earth can young people in todays society leave school and cannot read or write?? that baffles me. too bloody lazy to learn more like it.
                              talking of thick young people, two kids walked passed me in town they where about 9ish 1 said to me how do we split 70pence ? i couldnt believe it, at that age and didnt know what half of 70p was

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