advice needed burst water pipe

[footycard steve]

How fast is the water comming out the burst pipe is it just alittle or fast with a hiss?
If it's a converted coal house/ outside toilet have a look if you have another stop valve in utility room some time you will have two cold water supplyes 1 for house other for outside toilet which ussaly have a coal house next to it.

its not a hiss but a constant trickle not just a drop now and again,i've tried the outside tap but no water is coming out and i've turned the stopcock as far as i can

[SatSearching]

It's a big problem with these condensing boilers because the condensation from the flue just trickles down the condensing pipe it has more chance of freezing. Then it just keeps building up until it completely freezes. Then the water just backs up and stops the boiler from operating as it can not work with out the condensing pipe..

Yup, my condensor boiler is upstairs against an outside wall with a drain off that is a vertical drop to a drain.

It froze making my boiler thud like mad. I went up the ladders, removed the pipe from the elbow coming out of the wall and pored boiling water down the vertical pipe.

Then a rod of ice floated up the pipe, I took it out, it was like a star wars lightsaber! About 4 feet long! Never seen anything like it before, was mad!

[gregk]

I think that this is your lowest point where the water can drain off and think you might have to wait untill all water drains. how far of the floor is the leak? Can you put some sort of a bowl under it to catch water? You might have few litres of water still in pipe.

[gizmo.1484]

its not a hiss but a constant trickle not just a drop now and again,i've tried the outside tap but no water is coming out and i've turned the stopcock as far as i can

Just put a bucket under it or something to catch the water it probably is the water from the upstairs pipes.
Best thing to do is leave it for about 30mins then go back and check it, if it is still leaking then the stop cock is not closed fully. This can happen due to not been used for such a long time.

If still leaking after 30mins then get a pair of pliers or mole-grips and use to turn tap. BUT ONLY use a little force or you will snap the tap...

[gizmo.1484]

Yup, my condensor boiler is upstairs against an outside wall with a drain off that is a vertical drop to a drain.

It froze making my boiler thud like mad. I went up the ladders, removed the pipe from the elbow coming out of the wall and pored boiling water down the vertical pipe.

Then a rod of ice floated up the pipe, I took it out, it was like a star wars lightsaber! About 4 feet long! Never seen anything like it before, was mad!

I have had a few like that, it's crazy how long they get

[SatSearching]

Is the trickle coming from the burst pipe or the stop cock?

If the stop cock, is it from the shaft of the stop cock spindle? If so, there may be a nut against the spindle shaft, you can gently tighten it to seal the tap.

This can be common with a stop cock as they get seldom use and can leak.

[footycard steve]

I think that this is your lowest point where the water can drain off and think you might have to wait untill all water drains. how far of the floor is the leak? Can you put some sort of a bowl under it to catch water? You might have few litres of water still in pipe.

it filled a waste paper bin in around 30 mins/1 hour and has it almost half full again,should i leave the tap open on the outside? we've had a look and cant see a second stopcock for the utility/coal house

[footycard steve]

Is the trickle coming from the burst pipe or the stop cock?

If the stop cock, is it from the shaft of the stop cock spindle? If so, there may be a nut against the spindle shaft, you can gently tighten it to seal the tap.

This can be common with a stop cock as they get seldom use and can leak.

the trickle is coming from the pipe that connects to the washing machine in the utility/coal house

[SatSearching]

it filled a waste paper bin in around 30 mins/1 hour and has it almost half full again,should i leave the tap open on the outside? we've had a look and cant see a second stopcock for the utility/coal house

As gizmo says, try being a little more forcefull turning off the stop cock, but not too much to break it. As they get seldom use, the can crud up and not seal properly.

But also give the upper pipes time to drain.

[reddevil157]

If it's copper, kink the ~~~~ out of it with your grips and go to bed, fix it 2moro.

[SatSearching]

the trickle is coming from the pipe that connects to the washing machine in the utility/coal house

Is the pipe to your washer a cold or hot inlet?

You could try switching on your washer on a cold wash for a few mins to let the solenoid open and relieve the pressure?

[gregk]

if no water is comming out from outside tap there is a chance that it's frozen I suppose it would do no harm to leave it opened . It sounds like your stop valve isn't sealing propelly try what GIZMO 1484 suggested in post 35..

[footycard steve]

i'll try the stop cock again,then i'll put a large storage tub umder the leak and call it a night. big thanks to everyone for all the help and advice especially so late at night.

[gizmo.1484]

[QUOTE=footycard steve;899693]it filled a waste paper bin in around 30 mins/1 hour and has it almost half full again,should i leave the tap open on tal out the stop cock if the water stops..

When you open both hot and cold no water comes out?
You have a storage tank upstairs?

If no to both then it must be the water in the pipes from upstairs. Can you not open upstairs taps all of them? If you can open both of the kitchen taps then go and open all of the upstairs taps. The water will drain into the kitchen sink.

If the water stops from the leak problem solved if not then its the stop cock that's still ope slightly...

[SatSearching]

i'll try the stop cock again,then i'll put a large storage tub umder the leak and call it a night. big thanks to everyone for all the help and advice especially so late at night.

As above, try putting your washing machine on a cold wash for 2 mins, might drain off the problem