UK riots: magistrates told 'ignore the rule book' and lock up looters

**Snowy79** · 16 August, 2011, 06:59

The rule book should have been ripped up years ago. Punishments for the vast majority of crimes are an absolute joke. If you want an eye opener go to any magistrates courts and sit through a few cases. I've had the pleasure of sitting through four days of the shi~+ whilst fighting traffic offences.

Over 90% of the people getting charged were kids most of whom had too many previous offences to list. They'd turn up as if they've just got out of bed and completely ignore the Magistrate. I sat there while some were getting done for assault, theft, drunk and disorderly etc and the majority were getting either admonished or ?20 fines then arguing that they are already paying ?4 per week from their benefits for previous offences so can only pay an additional 50p per week and the Magistrates were agreeing.

When I paid my fine to the Clerk I asked him if these fines were normal and he said "The majority don't pay them anyway and nothing happens" Locking them up does no good as they just mingle with their own kind of scum. It's the one area I thnk they should go backwards and bring in the Birch. Whip the shi+s then throw them out into the street. The punishment is instant, it hurts and there's no fears of them making contacts in the nick.

**super jumbe** · 16 August, 2011, 09:39

I voted conservative in the last election??????..

I made a biggest mistake, and I ruined the life of our children?s.

They will not get my vote again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**garry1312** · 16 August, 2011, 12:18

Agree with Snowy the book should have been ripped up years ago. Our law seriously needs to sit down go through the law book and question are the sentenses right for the crime commited? Many are simply not.

Cameron is all talk, Can I see him making a difference with these dysfunctional families? No. What is his plans through more tax payers money at them with no end result.

Also every MP that stole from expenses should have been locked up if it was anyone of us it would have been a different story all together. Are we not all human? The law and punishment should apply to us all, our status in life should count for nothing.

**Kalipo** · 16 August, 2011, 13:07

Originally posted by super jumbe

I voted conservative in the last election??????..

I made a biggest mistake, and I ruined the life of our children?s.

They will not get my vote again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You cant blame the conservatives for this.. you must blame labour for years and years of stupid kiddy rules.. The conservatives cant turn the feelings of people around in such a short space of time... labour ~~~~ the country up and should be made to pay..

Free britain from europe, use the scum on the streets to reclaim the empire.. and stick the queen in charge..

**garry1312** · 16 August, 2011, 13:30

the queen wouldnt have the first clue on running the country

.

She sits back and claims the most benefits. Do away with the royal family there a waste of tax payers money. We pay for there living, there homes, holidays, weddings, funerals..... the list goes on

**tshirtman** · 16 August, 2011, 14:25

Originally posted by Kalipo

You cant blame the conservatives for this.. you must blame labour for years and years of stupid kiddy rules.. The conservatives cant turn the feelings of people around in such a short space of time... labour ~~~~ the country up and should be made to pay..

Free britain from europe, use the scum on the streets to reclaim the empire.. and stick the queen in charge..

Yes you can blame the torys,
this goes back to thatcher, it was her who declared there is no such thing as community,
she decimated manafacturing, taking thousands of jobs from the working classes
It is the torys who taught people, greed is good and ~~~~ the rest
and it is the current torys who want to get rid of 16.000 coppers, thats being really tough on crime
these kids and there parents are thatchers offspring, not labours.

**tshirtman** · 16 August, 2011, 14:33

Originally posted by Kalipo

You cant blame the conservatives for this.. you must blame labour for years and years of stupid kiddy rules.. The conservatives cant turn the feelings of people around in such a short space of time... labour ~~~~ the country up and should be made to pay..

Free britain from europe, use the scum on the streets to reclaim the empire.. and stick the queen in charge..

Yes you can blame the torys,
this goes back to thatcher, it was her who declared there is no such thing as community,
she decimated manafacturing, taking thousands of jobs from the working classes
It is the torys who taught people, greed is good and ~~~~ the rest
and it is the current torys who want to get rid of 16.000 coppers, thats being really tough on crime
these kids and there parents are thatchers offspring, not labours.

**bobwill** · 16 August, 2011, 19:07

what rule book are we talking about are we talking about the one labour brought out before the last election which told to take into account when sentencing, are they from a poor area,ethic group,deprived person if so a lighter sentence should be considered

**johnboy1974** · 16 August, 2011, 19:28

Just shows that they can be tough on crime WHEN THEY FRIGGIN WANT.
Now maybe they clamp down on these wee B****rds who go around slashing and carrying blades. I want them locked up for 5 years minimum please.

**Snowy79** · 16 August, 2011, 19:28

Got to admit Labour screwed it ten times as much as Maggie ever did. Labour has had achip on it's shoulder about Maggie since she got in first with the ideas of privatising companies to turn them into profitable companies, bringing billions to the economy and allowing labour to spend it all buying votes and blaming the Conservatives for laying off the working class.

I may be wrong but I'm sure that Labour spent years saying companies should be nationalised whilst in oposition yet once they were in power just happened to forget that bit. They also signed billions away to the EU and sold our souls on Human Rights for the least deserving.

**bobwill** · 16 August, 2011, 19:33

Originally posted by super jumbe

Miliband, the Labour leader, that he was resorting to ?gimmicks.

6 months for stealing a bottle of water and MPs allowed to pay ?16000 expense fiddles back and then carry on as if nothing happened, and Judges ignoring the rule of law ACT, it?s diabolical.

So what leason our children?s going to learn?

they could look at this web page and think that this fraud is better
Benefit fraud: light sentence
I have not heard what Milibands policy is on anything

**Kalipo** · 16 August, 2011, 19:41

OK lets all vote labour they seem to be the saviour of the country.. All i've heared milliband say is "that policy is wrong, That policy isnt correct".. hang on ed.. what are your actual policys.. share them with us and we can actually have a discussion.. The guys a knob and so are the last 2 leaders.. of the party..

The only people who can help the country are the connies.. I'd say the EDL but theyre not a political party

..

Ill stick to my guns, Conservatives and No europe.. end of.

**garry1312** · 16 August, 2011, 19:57

all David Cameron is interested in is make cuts and more cuts. Why does he not start making work, building new roads, hospitals, prisons, schools, investing more in to new business opporunities. This would increase jobs and bring this country out of the state its in. Other countries are doing this and they are starting to get there. Cameron does not have a clue.

**nara** · 16 August, 2011, 22:22

Originally posted by Kalipo

OK lets all vote labour they seem to be the saviour of the country..

You're learning.

UK riots: magistrates told 'ignore the rule book' and lock up looters

UK riots: magistrates told 'ignore the rule book' and lock up looters

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