The jobless will have to work 30 hours a week for their benefits under a tough, US-st

[lfc4life]

THE jobless will have to work for their benefits under a tough, US-style programme announced by David Cameron yesterday.

Anyone unemployed for more than two years faces a 30-hour-week for no extra cash under the PM?s ?workfare? plan.

Those who refuse to do the compulsory work will lose their benefits.

It comes as disastrous Government policies push unemployment towards 2.6million and ministers plot a ?5billion benefits grab by scrapping inflation-linked rises.

Mr Cameron told MPs the six-month ?community action? placement would ?help many get back in touch with the world of work, the idea of having a job, the skills that you need? to get employment.

But Commons Work and Pensions Committee chairwoman Dame Anne Begg warned it would not help those in areas where the slump has wiped out job hopes.

The Labour MP said: ?If they don?t have enough jobs for people who are looking for them, it doesn?t help.?

Officials were already struggling to find enough work for criminals on community service in some areas, she added.

Mr Cameron insisted everyone out of work should do more to find a job. He told the Commons liaison committee that some unemployed people spend an average of just eight minutes a day looking for a job.

Private firms and charities are being brought in to get those who have been out of work for nine months or more into employment under the work programme that will go nationwide in 2013.

These organisations will be paid according to how many people are in jobs at the end of two years? intensive help and training.

Those who do not end up in employment will then be put on the compulsory community action programme.


This is a laugh

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[Rodbouy]

Take away the charity work.

Why if this goes ahead would the private sector look for actual paid labour if they can tap in to a free resource?

The only way this would work, if if the firms that sign up to it, promise to hire a % of the ones they take on for say a min of 1 year paid work.

I Would be looking for a min 50% tho to make it fair.

I can see the point, there is far too many sitting about pre recession wanting to live on benefits.

Now there just is not as many jobs out there even if you have the skills.

This will defo be a think line to get it to work, but something tells me it will do more harm than good.

[lfc4life]

something has too be done cause ..... the taxpayer gets taken the right piss out of!!!!

[tshirtman]

this echo's back to the 80s, when thatcher introduced the the ?25 a week, Y.O.P, Y.T.S, and the M.S.C, schemes, I didn't know one person who was kept on full time when the scheme ended, it's just cheap labour for the private sector,
is this what the tory's mean when they say the private sector will mop up the jobs lost in the public sector, once again we adopt failed U.S policy, who's going to pay for the traveling costs for these people to get to there unpaid jobs, and it will cause more unemployment, why would a company pay for staff when they can get them for free.
as with care in the community, (another failed U.S policy) this will end up costing us more in the long run, it is just something to keep the right wing of the tory party happy, after they lost the vote for a referendum on Britain's future in the EU.

[Meat-Head]

this echo's back to the 80s, when thatcher introduced the the ?25 a week, Y.O.P, Y.T.S, and the M.S.C, schemes,.

Young Thick and Stupid - what did the others mean?

Yes fat unemployed people should be made to look for jobs - they do in spain

[tshirtman]

Young Thick and Stupid - what did the others mean?

Yes fat unemployed people should be made to look for jobs - they do in spain

Y.O.P - youth opportunity program
Y.T.S - youth training scheme
M.S.C - manpower service commission

[Lainie]

yip pathways to work has stopped and been replaced. the main reason for this is employers were "paid" money to take someone on ie a few thousand quid. they kept them of for a few months then got rid of them. same process all over again. employers got a mint out of it and the person was back on the dole. a lot of them has said "oh my mate can take me on etc" they both pocketed the money. please remember they are not just working for their benefit. they will still get their housing benefit/council tax benefit/ tax credits etc so they arent actually working for ?67.50 a week.

however im not saying its a good thing.

[tshirtman]

I did a, Y.O.P in 83 and loved it, working in HMV, loads of freebies from reps because we were one of the few shops to have a gallop machine

and then in 85 I did a M.S.C scheme working on a Roman archeological dig, 2 days one week, 3 days next, it was more than the dole though.

[lagerland]

Thats cool a mechanical horse at work i bet that would get the youth of today working second thoughts maybe not.........................

[super jumbe]

Force to work is called the (police state)

[Johnner]

Force to work is called the (police state)

It's not. It's called LIFE !!


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[super jumbe]

The unemployed do have a life?????

[wobber]

I am due to start this new work program shortly,at least when the government decides who gets the contract. It may even be my last jobclub provider Ingeus who where shite, i'm still unemployed their still making a mint. And just to note i am 51 been employed for most of my adult life,apply for an average of 6 jobs a week (lucky if i get a reply from one),some of us Dossers want to work but don't get a look in.:

[Snowy79]

I'm all for making the unemployed work to cover the cost of their benefits. Not just to ensure they are doing something to keep them active but it may also improve the state this Country is in. You only have to look around most Council estates to see rubbish and graffiti everywhere. They then complain that the Council don't tidy up behind them. It's strange that you walk around priviate housing estates where most couples have to work to pay their mortgages but the area is still tidy as they take pride in their neighbourhood. I'm not saying it's evereyone in a council estate but certainly a lot of them. Maybe those that work have different genetics that make them work that little harder or have more pride in their surroundings.

One thing I don't agree with is giving the money to private companies to work with the long term unemployed. There's plenty of work that could be carried by to assist council employees etc. After all the Government is cutting back Council funding so just make up the shortfall by getting the long term unemployed to the jobs that would have been cut.

[Kalipo]

I agree with this but im a little worried about companies employing "them" over "us".

I would however let them do it with say if they like someone else said only allowing 1% per company..

It would be a great idea however if they do get taken up by the private sector if the company pays 50% of the persons benefit.. and a few % more..

If the government pays ?60 a fortnight and the company pays ?60 + ?20.. It will benefit and keep "us" happy + the government will get ?20 a fortnight i tax which could be used to help prop up the ailing pension fund.. emphasis on help as benefit seekers can't prop it up on their own.

@ wobber this post is in no way having a go at you.. Its at the kids who leave school.. live off child benefit till theyre 18 and then claim jsa for the rest of their lives.. who simply write "looked in paper" on their job search sheet..