A million on benefit capable of work

[super jumbe]

One million people who are capable of work are ?stuck? on benefits, Iain Duncan Smith will disclose on Wednesday.

The Work and Pensions Secretary will release figures showing how many people are long-term claimants of unemployment benefit and other welfare payments.
The statistics are likely to add to a Coalition row over the growing cost of social security payments, which economists say is hampering efforts to reduce the deficit.
It could also add to tensions within Labour over how to deal with the growing benefit budget.

Mr Duncan Smith will use the report to highlight progress on getting more long-term claimants into employment, often using companies that help place people into work placements or training

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10013943/A-million-on-benefit-capable-of-work.html

[jamesyboyjim]

The thing that's upsetting is a lot of the time people who genuinely need benefits are the ones who get sent back to work, we've all read the horror stories of terminally ill people being told to work but then you get someone like my useless sister who has been claiming incapacity benefit for over ten years, she's more than capable of working, we have people with downs working at my place yet she gets away with it! How people are deemed fit / unfit is what's wrong IMO not how many people there are signed off.

[super jumbe]

Hear we go again Mr Iain Duncan Smith..

The actual cost of providing working age benefits, compared to GDP I read, is lower now than in every year (bar 2) in the 1990's and lower than in 5 years in the 1980's.

The continual attacks on working age claimants are totally unjustified, for example wages are low, costs are high, and people need welfare to survive simple.

This is partly the Tories? fault, they need to fix it!!!!!!

[Meat-Head]

So is this guy going to post the user names or not?

[super jumbe]

So is this guy going to post the user names or not?

[jamesyboyjim]

Not sure I understood what Meat-Head meant either!

[Meat-Head]

Sorry my bad misread it that crusty the clown fella was realsing user named of prople who can eork

[GastonJ]

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One million people who are capable of work are ***8220;stuck***8221; on benefits, Iain Duncan Smith will disclose on Wednesday.

[CODE]
I'd never have guessed, it must have come as a shock to the million of them and the other unemployed millions that he fails to mention. Bet they didn't realise that they were capable of work until that moronic sack of manure pointed out the obvious. I await the formation of companies (paid for by taxpayers) to invent jobs and work schemes that don't work. What his government could do is invest properly instead of pandering to their supporters and the Daily Mail readers. I'm really shocked that in the biggest downturn that we have people without work who want to work.......

[bobwill]

I think that benefits will have to be cut a lot more to make the work shy work there are plenty of jobs
for people who want to work there are UK firms that cant get people to work for them so they are still bringing in
Portuguese and polish workers to fill the vacancies not the best of jobs but if you are hungry you would do it.
If the EU gets its way and make UK take a lot of the EU unemployed and pay them benefits that will finish the UKs
welfare state off.
People on here talk about poverty they should have been about in the fifty's children going to school with cardboard
in they shoes because of holes in the soles not wearing designer trainers,bread and sugar sandwiches was all some kids got
besides school diners and the young who say we had it good have not got a clue

[super jumbe]

I think that benefits will have to be cut a lot more to make the work shy work there are plenty of jobs
for people who want to work there are UK firms that cant get people to work for them so they are still bringing in
Portuguese and polish workers to fill the vacancies not the best of jobs but if you are hungry you would do it.
If the EU gets its way and make UK take a lot of the EU unemployed and pay them benefits that will finish the UKs
welfare state off.
People on here talk about poverty they should have been about in the fifty's children going to school with cardboard
in they shoes because of holes in the soles not wearing designer trainers,bread and sugar sandwiches was all some kids got
besides school diners and the young who say we had it good have not got a clue

Good point,

there are plenty of jobs for people who want to work, but they do not want to work on peanuts do they!!!!!

[Meat-Head]

If the EU gets its way and make UK take a lot of the EU unemployed and pay them benefits that will finish the UKs
welfare state off.

So if us inglish folks move to poland where there must br plenty of jobs, do we get unemployment benfit from their hivment and hoe much

which sea csn i chuck iphone in on way?

[GastonJ]

Yes you can claim in Poland

The EU citizens can benefit from the services of voivodeship and poviat labour offices on the same basis as Polish citizens.

basic benefit (100%) in the period of the first three months ***8211; PLN 761.40 (ca. EUR 183),
basic benefit (100%) in the period of next months of having the right to the benefit - PLN 597.90 (ca. EUR 144),
reduced benefit (80%) in the period of the first three months ***8211; PLN 609.20 (ca. EUR 146),
reduced benefit (80%) in the period of the next months of having the right to the benefit - PLN 478.40 (ca. EUR 115),
higher benefit (120%) in the period of the first three months ***8211; PLN 913.70 (ca. EUR 220),
higher benefit (120%) in the period of the next months of having the right to the benefit - PLN 717.50 (ca. EUR 172).


Unemployment

as for your phone, any river will do, a sea is not needed.

[shellbob]

There is a difference between so many people on benefits being able to work and having actual jobs for them to go to.Of course there are people sponging benefits but these are the ones that need to be targeted instead of classing the genuine needy along with them.in amongst them.

[GastonJ]

Ah but that doesn't make headlines for the government if they point that out does it? There's probably millions of part time or minimum wage jobs out there, however there's a few problems with that, not least of which is with the minimum wage and the WTD it means you can only work 48 hours at around ?6.05 an hour, about ?240 a week. Now that may be fine if you're single and living at home. However if you're renting a house and married etc it is a problem, not enough to live on. So the government pays out tax credits and all that to 'top up' the fact that companies don't pay a living wage. That top up is paid by people who are working and pay taxes. So the taxpayers subsidise low paid jobs where companies don't feel they want to pay a living wage.

If tax credits and all the other sh*t paid to top up minimum wage is part of the so called welfare state, then it's a no brainer to save money - make the minimum wage a living wage. Ends tax credits and other top ups, save s money on benefits and will save on my tax bill.....

[Kalipo]

If the companies are made to pay a living wage they will simply leave and go elsewhere..

Business ethics are that.. Minimum outlay.. maximum profit..

The government are trying to protect jobs by keeping minimum pay as possible..

This is where we have the problem.. we should of never gone down the corporate/capitalist route..

My friend adolf warned of this a long long time ago..