Benefits Cap

[tornado]

Well the way i look at it no one should be better off on the dole than someone that works but being sick is not the same thing,also anyone can loose there job so if u have worked u should get a higher rate than the lazy ones that dont and will never work.the dole was put in place to help the sick and the ones out off work not people that do not want to work.

[GastonJ]

Aye but it's social cleansing and engineering on a large scale tbh. Someone will come up with an idea for building a city of 1 bedroomed flats sometime soon, somewhere that no-one wants to be. Then the government can ship out all the unwanted to that city. Job done. They can also claim the are all behind them, because George s saying it's proving so popular that they're thinking of reducing it more. I'm pretty sure if it was mde illegal to be an MP that would prove popular with a lot of people, let alone me, but they won't do that one so quick

The difference between social and ethnic cleansing is?......

[maca]

Makes no difference what anyone thinks the politicians or liars to be fair only give a shit what anyone thinks when its voting time that they pretend to listen. biggest thieving bastards on the planet they are.. rant over sorry

[GastonJ]

That wasn't a rant - unless you have something they want (generally money), you're a piece of s**t on their shoe

[darwins]

I'm lucky never been out of work.. never claimed benefit of any type..

What seams common in country locations is folk from the city move in pushing the prices up after benefitting from the city carrer..

This guys is the Tory idea of a fair society !!

I totaly agree lower benefits and get folk into work but for example if some one was breed and raised in a location.. even in the city!! that should be an affordable Place to remain even on a low income..

The Torries are spining a web which will trap them in the end

[Kalipo]

Here's a thought..

Maggie thatcher went about it all the wrong way when she started the Poll Tax.. this aside.. why not abolish council tax etc and raise vat by 2-3%

With that rise in toe.. EVERYBODY will pay for the services they use..

JSA, Tax credits etc etc.

So.. John and Sabrina Casey-Joe-Riley whos been on job seekers allowance for 30 years since leaving school goes and buys fags and booze everyday will contribute..


This i think will make the system more fair for everyone??

[GastonJ]

Kal I do wonder whether you actually believe any of the sh*t you spout, and then I think "no, no-one other than Dave Carmeon, IDS and Nick Clegg believe that sh*t" Are you Dave in disguise?

[Meat-Head]

No to a point kalio has a point, but needs tweaking

yes fags up a bit, say 5%

stuff that ?200 say up 3%

stuff that ?700 up 1%

stuff that ?1000 no change

sake of argument you buy fags every day, new tv every 2 years

one garage door in 10 years one funeral every 20


but if say garage door company, like MEAT-CITY GARAGE DOORS LTD
oops free advert, buy lots from supplier then discount

[Snowy79]

If contraception was used by the majority of the population that can't afford to look after themselves let alone a kid there would be enough money to go around for those who find themselves in dire straights through no fault of their own.

That presumes they all got themselves in that position deliberately, know one lost there family after divorce? know one lost there job? no battered wives? no family split up after one addiction or another? no sick people? you will always have a section who don't want to work, the tory front bench believe all on benefits are scum, you surely don't believe that do you?

[gc1966]

If contraception was used by the majority of the population that can't afford to look after themselves let alone a kid there would be enough money to go around for those who find themselves in dire straights through no fault of their own.

so,we supply contraception to every female that falls into the 12-20 age bracket,then assess whether to allow at say 21 for them to populate based on their income and future possible earnings,interesting idea.was it one of your own or did you read it in the times homophobic/racist/working class scum/immigration gone mad readers letter page???????

[Kalipo]

Kal I do wonder whether you actually believe any of the sh*t you spout, and then I think "no, no-one other than Dave Carmeon, IDS and Nick Clegg believe that sh*t" Are you Dave in disguise?

When your sat there looking at you wallet and laughing... What, does that mean your wallet tell jokes? No probably not..

Just because someone is bringing productive ideas it doesn't mean that person is a ****? I do believe in what i say! Why? because i believe in change.. The current system in this god for saken country is all wrong..

Why should people pay less or nothing at all because they cant be arsed to work??

If your worried at a 2-3 Vat pay rise, bump the wages up!

[Kalipo]

No to a point kalio has a point, but needs tweaking

yes fags up a bit, say 5%

stuff that ?200 say up 3%

stuff that ?700 up 1%

stuff that ?1000 no change

sake of argument you buy fags every day, new tv every 2 years

one garage door in 10 years one funeral every 20


but if say garage door company, like MEAT-CITY GARAGE DOORS LTD
oops free advert, buy lots from supplier then discount

Well, you never know. Some low-class species with the same viewpoint as the author might find it funny.

[tornado]

The thing i dont understand about a mp is he can buy a second home in london because off his so called work and the tax payer gets to pay for it then why is it when the home is sold the mp gets to keep the money from it why not give it back to the tax payer.

[GastonJ]

You do of course realise that the DWP count pensions as benefits as well don't you? So when you retire you will also be classed as a benefits scrounger...... Pensions make up te bulk of benefits that are paid, I'm surprised that the government haven't blamed pensioners, though they're probably waiting for the time to be right. They've already blamed immigrants, they've blamed the EU, they've blamed single mothers, they've blamed people in receipt of benefits. They're very good at the blame game and very bad at getting it right. As above *nothing* has been paid off the debt, the last 3 years of cuts has don't nothing to reduce it and it's still going up. So what have the cuts, and blame, achieved? a divided country and a number of disenfranchised minorities.

What use are the cuts if they don't cut the debt? *shrug*

[Meat-Head]

Yes but who what why were and when did this debt come from?