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  • super jumbe
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    • Dec 2008
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    Homeowner who captured thieves on camera told to take footage offline - because he



    Robert Waters filmed burglars in his Dublin home and put the footage online to warn others, only to receive an email from the Data Protection Commissioner last week ordering him to remove the CCTV images

    A homeowner who made a website showing CCTV of thieves in his house has been threatened with jail unless he takes it down - because he didn?t have the burglars' consent.

    Robert Waters filmed criminals in his Dublin home and put the footage online to warn others, only to receive an email last week ordering him to remove the CCTV images.

    The dad-of-three had captured masked thieves climbing over the wall of his house before breaking in through a kitchen window and stealing jewellery and his children?s piggy banks.

    But since creating the site, Mr Waters has been threatened with a 100,000 Euro fine or a jail term - because of 'data protection'.

    Cameras which he installed in his home in Killiney, south Dublin, showed them going from room to room in 'military precision' as they searched the house looking for valuables before fleeing within three or four minutes.

    But within a couple of hours of ringing Joe Duffy on RTE Radio One's 'Liveline' show to publicise his website, Mr Waters got an email from the Data Protection Commissioner warning him that he is breaking the law by posting the images unless he has the prior consent of the criminals.

    Mr Waters said: ?I've had more sleepless nights over the Data Protection Commissioner than I have had over the burglary.?

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  • super jumbe
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    • Dec 2008
    • 11610

    #2
    Because he did not have burglars' consent!!!
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    • Diddy
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      • Feb 2009
      • 46

      #3
      He should write back to them and say he has and ask them to prove otherwise. That would be interesting. Surely this would take a formal complaint from the burglars themselves before the information commissioner could then act. So they would then be grassing themselves in by attempting to get their images removed from the website. I think the IC has been heavy handed here and should have kept out of it UNTIL they recieved a complaint from one of the people on film...then the police would have had the right to obtain a court order to demand the details of the complainant as he/she are basically admitting to theft and burglary ....that's how I see it anyway.

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      • super jumbe
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        • Dec 2008
        • 11610

        #4
        We need to change the law, remember few years back you could not hit back intruder in your own property, we need similar change and what about the footage we get on BBC crime scene do they get permeation from thieves??
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        • Meat-Head
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          • Oct 2009
          • 32000

          #5
          Originally posted by super jumbe

          Robert Waters filmed criminals in his Dublin home and put the footage online to warn others, only to receive an email last week ordering him to remove the CCTV images.

          The dad-of-three

          showed them going from room to room in 'military precision' as they searched the house E]
          1) Put a sign up, entering these premisis you automattically agree to consent to putting unlawfull images up on www......

          2) Was the camera in every room to stop his kids looking at INFERIOR websites.

          3) Take them down off the website, but put still photos up

          4) Take a drive to another town use free wifi to upload them to youtuba then somehow 'accidently' leave a youtuba link on his website
          so it looks like somebody has leeched the video and uploead on youtuba

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          • M T Glass
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            • Jul 2013
            • 733

            #6
            Did the burglars have the owners consent to trespass on the owners property?
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            • super jumbe
              V.I.P. Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 11610

              #7
              There is law out there in your favour!!!
              Car Park At Owners Risk,

              You Are Entering This House At Own Risk.
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              • cgscott
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                • Jul 2008
                • 3513

                #8
                Technically he is stealing from the BBC. They own all copyright to all cctv footage. The footage will be shown in 12 months time when all the police have spent theyre allocated budget ont this case buying coffee and doughnuts and decide that the only option then is to get the public to grass on the people who done it.

                Happens all the time.

                Get it on catchup for anyone interested
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                • Meat-Head
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32000

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cgscott
                  Technically he is stealing from the BBC. They own all copyright to all cctv footage.
                  WTF - you got a link to that thread?

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                  • ajax2061
                    DK Veteran
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 395

                    #10
                    I guess video is different from photos then ? as if you can be seen from a public place then you should expect your photo to be taken and used and after all I guess they could be seen entering the house by public so therefore legal therefore no breech.

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                    • Meat-Head
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 32000

                      #11
                      So make the video into 5000 photos

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