B.N.P AND QUESTION TIME

[bvilleuk]

have a look for yourself who's a member..

Excel sheet of BNP members.. is there one near you

http://88.80.16.63/leak/bnp-2009/bnp-2009.xlsb

What's the point of this??

[bvilleuk]

just like to say thanx to u lot on how well u lot r posting .. no bitching or piss taking .. l love this site

I must be posting on a different DK site than you -- I expressed my humble opinion [which is the name of the game after all] and was told the other day that it was "RACIST DRIVEL"

Maybe one day the person will grow up and hear about FREE SPEECH

DK -- Best Site of the Lot!!

[forntida]

Just as I thought. According to the first public opinion poll taken after question time one in five British voters are considering voting BNP.*

* 20%! That is one hell of an increase. If transferred to an election the BNP would get a few seats in the UK parliament.

[manxspud]

come on @bvilleuk... you have started a interesting thread m8, don't spoil it bud. reading the posts in this thread i don't see any body having a dig a you for been racist, so i would have to agree with @smirnoff_rules and say well done all on some interesting reading. it would appear that whilst most people don't agree with the bnp they do believe they should be allowed to speak about their ideas and polices.
On the bnp website (i won't post a link) they see Q/time as a success, with the program been worth millions of pounds worth of advertising. they have had more hits on their site than ever before... nick griffin and his advisers i'm sure knew what to expect from the show and countered it the way any body who has been on a team leaders course is thought to handle adverse situations... stay calm, listen without interrupting and offer your side and solution. unfortunately he did not get much chance on the last two.
i'm sure not everybody who has voted bnp is a racist... they are everyday people who like most of us are concerned about everyday issues... immigration is a big issue as is jobs advertised say in poland but not here... wtf... but it does happen. i may not agree with what the bnp stands for, but regardless i would be willing to listen to their views and solutions.
the other major parties would do well to take note on the bnp and their rise in popularity... are the british people sending out a message that enough is enough... and they need to get off their fat backsides and sort our country out... time will tell.
as for now keep the posts coming, i for one have been very interested in what you all have to say.
regards @manx

[thered]

well a bit late but i will air my views on thursdays question time

i think that nick griffin will win a lot of support from the show op's you are dead right the crowd was hand picked full of asians,jews and left wing socialites he never stood a chance but he did score a few points

the quip to straw was first class,i thought the only person who speak decently and came across well was the lady sat next to him all the others and the crowd just heckled everything that was said

i believe he is right that churchill would be turning in his grave after we went to war to protect this country and its people from invasion from germany now our borders are just open to anyone

the bnp will not get anywhere in politics by bashing blacks and asians and they know this which is why as nick griffin admitted when talking of the klu klux klan that they hate him because he had sold out

the party is trying to get away from the stereotypical image of the bnp to which everyone relates to which is skinheads and swastika's. the bnp has moved and so have its followers you will find that a lot are proffesional people doctors,nurses,police officers and a great deal of oap's who remember what it was like in the war and are now disgusted by how the country is run

im sick of hearing that this is how hitler and the nazi's started beware of bnp WHAT A CROCK OF 5HIT do you really think thats what would happen politicaians are scared of the bnp because they know immigration is a major issue and are frightened to tackle it even though a lot probably agree behind closed doors

nick griffin has good points politicaians are that scared of being racist they would rather stamp on a white man to do what they see as the right thing

why do we have to tick boxes when appying for jobs to show our race/colour ? its just so that they can give the ethnic minority priority as to avoid the race card

tv shows have to put certain amounts of people in so that blacks wont be offended why ? are we offended by the mobo's

race has gone mad that is why politicians skirt around it like jack straw and thats why they try to make people like nick griffin and supporters of the bnp out as all thugs a small majority may be but not all a million people cant all be thugs can they?

in the football we are tarnished as thugs by most countrys it is unfair and stereotypical it is a small minority but it sticks much like the bnp's reputation and for the bnp to succed they need to be more mainstream which is what they are trying to do, i think his performance on Q/T where he was bullied and pilloried even by supposedly impartial dimbleby will only help

[Raven]

@ manxspud, that's totally spot on mate! That's exactly how I feel....

@ thered, totally agree with you aswell mate that race has gone mad in this country, well not race I should be saying political correctness!

Some excellent points and posts in this thread and I have to say the maturity on show is unbelievable, everyone should be commended for that.

[thered]

People shouldn't be that much alarmed by the rise of BNP. You will find that the more they get into the mainstreem the more they will begin to sound like the big three parties. The proposed changes to their constittion to allow non-whites to join the party would for example force them to tone down on their hate speech and before you know it there wont be any distinction between them and Labour and the Conservatives etc. One thing for sure is that once this happens that there will always come another party to fill in the void claiming that BNP has lost its way. Because there are always peolpe who blame everybody else other than themselves for their problems.

One thing i dont understand though is what is BNP's stance on the hundreds of thousands of Brits who are leaving Britain to settle in other countries. Should they all stay here. We even have programmes like " A life in the sun" about Brits living abroad what di they say about that. Human migration is unstoppable, the sooner they realise that the better.

i think the point is that you can come here if you bring something to the table if i were to emigrate abroad i would need money or a needed skill not sponge off the welfare system in the country i desired

i am all for immigration if we have a shortage of skills and they are needed to benefit our system but there should be measures and time limits set for workers in temporary jobs when it is finished they should go home unless other work appears

work should only be advertised in the uk whilst unemployment is rising and any work that does go abroad should be a temporary say 3 month at a time in which the jobs are advertised to british citzens if the job is taken in that time the foreign labour goes home

[opsmonkey]

I must be posting on a different DK site than you -- I expressed my humble opinion and was told the other day that it was "RACIST DRIVEL"

No i said you spouted racist drivel after you posted a thread saying:

Everyone seems to be wondering why the Muslim terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.

No tailgates on camels.
No Hooters.
No Pork BBQ.
No hot dogs.
No Burgers.
No lobster, shellfish, or even frozen fish sticks. Ever try to fish at an oasis?
Rags for clothes and hats.
Eating only with your right hand because you wipe only with your left.
(Like life isn't complicated enough already).
Constant wailing from the guy next door because he is sick and there are no doctors
Constant wailing from the guy in the tower.
You can't shave.
Your wife can't shave.
You can't shower to wash off the smell of donkey cooked over burning camel dung.
The women have to wear baggy dresses and veils at all times.
Your bride is picked by someone else. She smells just like your donkey. But your donkey has a better disposition.

if that's your humble opinion then you are a racist

[bobwill]

In my opinion there is no differance between far right and far left both murdered millions in the last 100 years but in this country its only the far right that is wrong and there is ex commis or ultra left in the labour party now in power and nothing is said about this .The BBC is left wing along with are education system hence students deomostating

[Raven]

No i said you spouted racist drivel after you posted a thread saying:



if that's your humble opinion then you are a racist

I shouldn't be getting involved and I don't want to seem like I'm taking sides or anything but I have to say this, that post was obviously a joke post all be it a clearly offensive one. And he gets called a racist, not necessarily so.....but what is more to the point is the arab radicals who commit sucide via terrorism and behead anybody with freedom and ideals all because we don't live like they do - is that not racism ? Because to me that's a much, much more serious form of racism and hatred. Now given that they do that then that guy has the right to take the piss jokingly.

Now I know what he said is offensive to the rest of the arab world, but it's like this they say they are against the extremists and that they are misguided, but the thing is I don't know about anyone else but frankly I don't think the rest of the muslim world do enough to distance themselves from the terrorists and aline themselves with everyone else, I mean if it was me and the majority being tarred with the same brush as a few idiots who don't represent, I'd be working my nuts off screaming from the rooftops at every opportunity my disposition and the disposition of the majority. I just don't think the muslim communities are doing enough, if anything it's the opposite because in a fair few cases they don't want to integrate and that's the cause of a lot of the problem. Segregation and oppression. Make no mistake that's a very real problem for a lot of people in this country even for white British folks that has nothing to do with race or creed.

But yeah if the muslim communities appeared to be as vocal about this on TV as British people seem to be against the BNP, then there could be no question. But for one reason or another they are not. That's why I firmly believe that something is amiss here that we aren't seeing and that something shady is going on, I'm just not sure what that is. The BNP is getting far too much mainstream media coverage for my liking and there's something going on there as well as out there on the streets that we aren't seeing on our TV sets that's for damn sure.

[Gumbo]

Jack Straw as foreign secretary was responsable for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's. Griffin is a racist who probably if he could, kick out hundreds of thousands of non whites from the UK. It could be argued that the cabinet that Straw sat in was more racist then the BNP could ever hope to be.

[maca]

some superb points getting put across here well done everybody.

[on_the_jazz]

but what is more to the point is the arab radicals who commit sucide via terrorism and behead anybody with freedom and ideals all because we don't live like they do - is that not racism ?

This is what happens when your only source of information is Fox. They hate our "freedom and ideals", yes thats it, it couldn't possibly be all the illegal wars, support for corrupt regimes and land occupation. Freedom, thats the real issue behind it.

Now I know what he said is offensive to the rest of the arab world, but it's like this they say they are against the extremists and that they are misguided, but the thing is I don't know about anyone else but frankly I don't think the rest of the muslim world do enough to distance themselves from the terrorists and aline themselves with everyone else, I mean if it was me and the majority being tarred with the same brush as a few idiots who don't represent, I'd be working my nuts off screaming from the rooftops at every opportunity my disposition and the disposition of the majority.

There were a few anti-terror marches in London and turn outs were quite good as I recall. Didn't the heads of the Islamic societies in the UK also condemn acts of terror?
Have you distanced yourself from the wars? from support of terror? from guantanamo? etc? The arab world probably thinks much the same of you.

[Raven]

This is what happens when your only source of information is Fox. They hate our "freedom and ideals", yes thats it, it couldn't possibly be all the illegal wars, support for corrupt regimes and land occupation. Freedom, thats the real issue behind it.

There were a few anti-terror marches in London and turn outs were quite good as I recall. Didn't the heads of the Islamic societies in the UK also condemn acts of terror?
Have you distanced yourself from the wars? from support of terror? from guantanamo? etc? The arab world probably thinks much the same of you.

I never watch Fox, and I'm not American. This is simply the way it is in reality.....you aren't seriously trying to defend the extremists are you mate ? Come on now. It is what it is. And don't try and derail this thread into a witch hunt please. It's been doing superbly up to now, let's keep the respect for each other's opinion eh ?

[lost_boy]

All I have to say is watch this video: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QAvkFS_cgk]YouTube - Cassetteboy vs Nick Griffin vs Question Time[/ame]

sums up the show for me: