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  • hoggy952
    DK Veteran
    • Jan 2010
    • 1229

    #1

    Gurkha hacks off taliban fighters head

    Quote:Gurkha ordered back to UK after beheading dead Taliban fighter

    A Gurkha soldier has been flown back to the UK after hacking the head off a dead Taliban commander with his ceremonial knife to prove the dead man?s identity.

    The private, from 1st Battalion, Royal Gurkha Rifles, was involved in a fierce firefight with insurgents in the Babaji area of central Helmand Province when the incident took place earlier this month.

    His unit had been told that they were seeking a ?high value target,? a Taliban commander, and that they must prove they had killed the right man.

    The Gurkhas had intended to remove the Taliban leader?s body from the battlefield for identification purposes.

    But they came under heavy fire as their tried to do so. Military sources said that in the heat of battle, the Gurkha took out his curved kukri knife and beheaded the dead insurgent.

    He is understood to have removed the man?s head from the area, leaving the rest of his body on the battlefield.

    This is considered a gross insult to the Muslims of Afghanistan, who bury the entire body of their dead even if parts have to be retrieved.


    British soldiers often return missing body parts once a battle has ended so the dead can be buried in one piece.

    A source said: ?Removing the head in this way was totally inappropriate.?

    Army sources said that the soldier, who is in his early 20s, initially told investigators that he unsheathed his kukri ? the symbolic weapon of the Gurkhas ? after running out of ammunition.

    But later the Taliban fighter was mutilated so his identity could be verified through DNA tests.

    The source said: ?The soldier has been removed from duty and flown home. There is no sense of glory involved here, more a sense of shame. He should not have done what he did.?

    The incident, which is being investigated by senior commanders, is hugely embarrassing to the British Army, which is trying to build bridges with local Afghan communities who have spent decades under *Taliban rule.

    It comes just days after a rogue Afghan soldier murdered three British troops from the same Gurkha regiment.

    If the Gurkha being investigated by the Army is found guilty of beheading the dead enemy soldier, he will have contravened the Geneva Conventions which dictate the rules of war. Soldiers are banned from demeaning their enemies.

    The Gurkha now faces disciplinary action and a possible court martial. If found guilty, he could be jailed.

    He is now confined to barracks at the Shorncliffe garrison, near Folkestone, Kent.

    The incident happened as the Gurkha troop was advancing towards a hostile area before engaging the enemy in battle.

    Colonel Richard Kemp, a former commander of British forces in Afghanistan, said: ?In this case, it appears that the *soldier was not acting maliciously, but his actions were clearly ill-judged.

    ?The Gurkhas are a very fine regiment with a proud tradition of service in the British forces and have fought very bravely in Afghanistan.

    'I have no doubt that this behaviour would be as strongly condemned by the other members of that regiment, as it would by all soldiers in the British forces.?

    A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: ?We are aware of an incident and have informed the Afghan authorities. An inves-t*igation is underway and it would not be appropriate to comment further until this is concluded.?

    The Ministry also revealed yesterday that four British servicemen had been killed in Afghanistan in 24 hours.

    An airman from the RAF Regiment died in a road accident near Camp Bastion in Helmand and a marine from 40 Commando Royal Marines was killed in an explosion in Sangin on Friday.

    A Royal Dragoon Guard died in a blast in the Nahr-e Saraj district of Helmand Province yesterday. The fourth serviceman also died in an explosion.

    The British death toll in the Afghan campaign since 2001 is now 322.

    Afghan troops trained by the British Army recently led a major operation into a Taliban stronghold.

    It was one of the first operations organised by the Afghan National Army. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1295617/Gurkha-ordered-UK-beheading-dead-Taliban-fighter.html?ITO=1708&referrer=yahoo
  • Gumbo
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 88

    #2
    I think it's terrible that the Taliban soldier was dead when beheaded.

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    • Canker_Canison
      V.I.P. Member
      • May 2010
      • 3905

      #3
      Yet I've seen a video on theync.com that made me sick.

      A man accused of spying on the taliban was dragged through the street & tied up. A 12 year old boy was then given a knife. This boy then cut off the guys head as he was pinned down. It probably took over 6 minutes for the boy to complete the beheading (I didn't watch it all, just going by the video length), but the victim didn't stop jurking around until about 4 minutes into the act.

      ~~~~ the taliban & their supporters! If that's how they act, lets use the same tactics & behaviour against them.
      Canker

      "Animal, vegetable or mineral... I'll do anything, to anything, with anything"
      - The Baby Eating Bishop of Bath & Wells
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      • Gumbo
        Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 88

        #4
        Yeah I used to watch those vids but found them rather disturbing in the long run.

        They should congratulate the Gurkha for using his initiative, maybe we need to call Ms Lumley.

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        • hoggy952
          DK Veteran
          • Jan 2010
          • 1229

          #5
          It really comes to something in this day and age when soldiers have to respect the religion of the enemy (beheading is considered bad form in Islam). Perhaps this Gurkha should have taken a photo with his mobile phone to confirm the identity of the combatant.
          Strange that Muslims should feel insulted and offended by this act, considering that they have done this with western hostages??

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          • cactikid
            V.I.P. Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 12017

            #6
            after the attack on the worlds trade centre that was something i do not want to see again and that soldier who only does what is ancestors probably did anyway.

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            • Adam_UK
              DK Veteran
              • Nov 2009
              • 464

              #7
              We shouldn't generlize

              Originally posted by hoggy952
              It really comes to something in this day and age when soldiers have to respect the religion of the enemy (beheading is considered bad form in Islam). Perhaps this Gurkha should have taken a photo with his mobile phone to confirm the identity of the combatant.
              Strange that Muslims should feel insulted and offended by this act, considering that they have done this with western hostages??
              We shouldn't generelize, some extermists Muslims beheaded not only foreign hostages but Muslims as well (look what is happening in Iraq) therefore we should differntiate between Muslims and the minority exterimists who are called Muslims. Hitler was war maniac so should we look at all Chrsistians as Hitler? Remember the American guy who blew a bomb in Oklahoma in mid 90s and was later executed, he was Christian but that doent say this idiot represents Christian values.

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              • Meat-Head
                V.I.P. Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 32000

                #8
                just sitting on the fence here, but got to say, MacDonalds really should stop putting them things in burgers, they taste horrid.

                sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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                • cactikid
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 12017

                  #9
                  chicken mcnuggets or fish burger hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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                  • barrowmanandrew
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3427

                    #10
                    "British soldiers often return missing body parts once a battle has ended so the dead can be buried in one piece."

                    this is the piece of the story i find most disturbing...
                    why dont we just use ~~~~in paint ball guns so that we dont harm them or insult them at all.....

                    how risky must it be returning body parts to a battle field???
                    i think our boys risk enough without this nonsense....

                    i wonder if the taliban are as courtious to our fallen heroes....
                    don't ~~~~in think so......

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                    • Cronus
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 692

                      #11
                      'A gross insult to Muslims'

                      LOL now that is funny. Should use sodding bacon bullets...that would really piss them off.

                      Hoggy is right. They'd gladly kill our soldiers on a whim with no thoughts so why the hell are we 'respecting' their religion in battle.

                      If they shoot at our forces then they are fair game! End of.
                      Last edited by Cronus; 19 July, 2010, 00:04.

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                      • Meat-Head
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 32000

                        #12
                        Originally posted by barrowmanandrew
                        "British soldiers often return missing body parts once a battle has ended so the dead can be buried in one piece."

                        .

                        do they have part numbers? Smart water (TM)?
                        just stick them on ebay

                        sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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                        • maca
                          Mr. DK DJ
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 6310

                          #13
                          [QUOTE=Cronus;685719]'A gross insult to Muslims'

                          LOL now that is funny. Should use sodding bacon bullets...that would really piss them off.

                          Hoggy is right. They'd gladly kill our soldiers on a whim with no thoughts so why the hell are we 'respecting' their religion in battle.

                          If they shoot are our forces then they are fair game! End of.

                          as (joe strummer. the clash) said " for he who is killed is he who will kill" ..

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                          • Meat-Head
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                            • Oct 2009
                            • 32000

                            #14
                            Originally posted by maca58

                            as (joe strummer. the clash) said " for he who is killed is he who will kill" ..

                            1) The guy was saving the taxpayer money on postage charges

                            2)
                            [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZBPu7jJbJU"]YouTube - The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go (Music Video)[/ame]



                            3) "Should i hack his head, or no, if i don't there will be trouble, if i do it will be double"

                            sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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                            • chroma
                              V.I.P. Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1976

                              #15
                              God damned army brass.

                              Go and get the job done boys! This mission is of paramount importance!

                              And when you go and actualy do it you get hung out to dry?

                              What the hell was the guy supposed to do?

                              Option A: reclaim the entire carcass and risk getting KIA doing so (downsides: your dead, the army loses out on funding used training your stupid ass)

                              Option B: Run out shouting at the top of your lungs "can you tone the gunfire down a bit lads, my dumbass commander says i need to ID this muppet before i can get out of your shithole country." (downsides: see option A with added hillarity on the enemy side boosting their morale)

                              Option C: Squaddie run out onto the field, get behind the dead body and use it as an ad hoc meat shield whilst systematicaly hacking through muscle, nerve and sinew between vertibrae, before beating a retreat with a positive ID and a demoralised enemy.
                              (Downsides: your comrades back home who get to sit in nice safe offices with very little concept of pressure under fire, get to hang you out by the balls for going above and beyond to complete your objective. the rest of your squad gives you some sick nickname that the noobs dont "get")

                              Option D: Say "to hell with it all" and just go home to get jailed for desertion of duty and treason... spending the rest of your days being treated like a coward getting bummed in the showers.

                              I not only think the kid did alright for showing genuine initiative in a difficult situation, he should also get something shiny pinned to his chest for the occasion instead of harrassed for doing his job to the utmost of his ability. Especialy when anyone whom would see fit to judge the guy would be incabable of doing anything in his boots from the shit running down the backs of their legs.

                              I certainly dont have nearly as much of a pair of testicles as he does, and am therefore entirely unqualified to brand him anything other than a hero.

                              Dont forget, when a war ends for civilians it DOES NOT end for people who served on the frontlines. At least you get to sleep comfortably at night without reliving the horror.
                              This guy did what he thought was best for his country, forgoing the psychological impact and scarring he'll have to deal with for the rest of his life.
                              The media and powers that be in turn treat him like scum for giving his everything.
                              I can clearly see who the real scumbags in this instance are.
                              He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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