British PM David Cameron says Multiculturalism has failed

**masur123** · 6 February, 2011, 11:22

Absolutely agree with what has been said, however words mean nothing if not backed up by action.

Stop giving public money to the mosques who incite racial tension, stop giving out passports to known terrorists and "refugees" from other countries.

Its about time this country woke up to damage and harm that has and is being done by meal ticket foreginers who have little or no interest in the values and ideals that I and many others believe in.

**smirnoff_rules** · 6 February, 2011, 11:55

another problem is letting people in from country's where there way of life is nothing like ours .. ie : no laws in there country , human life is worthless , raping children or women is the norm ,

how can we change there genetic make up

**tshirtman** · 6 February, 2011, 16:22

This is exactly what, Enoch Powell was trying to say many years ago, but he got lambasted for his views,

Rivers Of Blood Speech

**cablefreejunkie** · 8 February, 2011, 18:32

live and let live
cameron is a scumbag along with most tory supporters,and to try and get the workingclass voter on board he now comes out with all this shite while times are tough and getting even tougher under conservative,trying to stir up racial hatred etc
i mean what the ~~~~ would he know anyway,,lives in a completely different world
if you agree with what hes saying then you must also support the expulsion of all brits abroad,no matter what country they are in ? if you feel that strong,
all of you on here supporting camerons rhetoric and enoch powells shite should never under any circumstances leave these shores and step foot in any other country again
im sure you wont be leaving then ???? yeah right

**bobwill** · 8 February, 2011, 20:41

We do not have to leave these shores brown and his loney left idiots have open the gates let every one in it is like a foreign country in some towns,and the only ones that have not noticed it are the middle class do gooders and the loney left, and as soon as some one say anything about it the shout from the looneys and do gooders is BIGOT or racist

**tshirtman** · 8 February, 2011, 20:51

Originally posted by cablefreejunkie

live and let live
cameron is a scumbag along with most tory supporters,and to try and get the workingclass voter on board he now comes out with all this shite while times are tough and getting even tougher under conservative,trying to stir up racial hatred etc
i mean what the ~~~~ would he know anyway,,lives in a completely different world
if you agree with what hes saying then you must also support the expulsion of all brits abroad,no matter what country they are in ? if you feel that strong,
all of you on here supporting camerons rhetoric and enoch powells shite should never under any circumstances leave these shores and step foot in any other country again
im sure you wont be leaving then ???? yeah right

here we go. anyone who dares to criticize this country's immigration policy must be a right wing racist,
Enoch Powell, predicted in 1968, that the population in this country would be made up of 10% immigrants by 2005,(and he was spot on), the point he was making is we cannot carry on having an open door policy, letting anyone and everyone in, we are a small island with limited housing stock and school places,
we need tighter rules on how many people we let in, look at country's like Australia, and how strict they are, or are they a bunch of racists as well,
I don't give a shite about brits living abroad, and those that do move out, probably don't arrive on foreign shores without a penny to there name or nowhere to live,
I have a responsibility to my children and I want a good future for them, not being priced out of the housing market or facing mass unemployment, which is where we are heading now.
like most people, you here the sound bites, and don't listen to the core of the argument.

**masur123** · 8 February, 2011, 21:42

Originally posted by cablefreejunkie

live and let live
cameron is a scumbag along with most tory supporters,and to try and get the workingclass voter on board he now comes out with all this shite while times are tough and getting even tougher under conservative,trying to stir up racial hatred etc
i mean what the ~~~~ would he know anyway,,lives in a completely different world
if you agree with what hes saying then you must also support the expulsion of all brits abroad,no matter what country they are in ? if you feel that strong,
all of you on here supporting camerons rhetoric and enoch powells shite should never under any circumstances leave these shores and step foot in any other country again
im sure you wont be leaving then ???? yeah right

If you must know I have never voted Tory in my life, and to be honest your comments that he is only saying these sort of things to get the working class people on board is quite offending. It sort of implies that if you say anything about immigration it would only be the working class people who would listen and think "hmm what a strong leader he is, I will vote for him next time because I do not have an opinion for myself." Get over yourself.

Whether he lives in a different world to me, and doesnt go through the trials and tribulations I do, does not matter. It only matters that he and I probably share the same view on how this country is heading, and what the fundamental causes are.

As tshirt states, Brits who move abroad do so with money in their pocket, or are willing to work in the country they have moved too. If they go on religious reasons, it is usually to assist in poorer parts of the world, whilst also spreading the word of their religion.

In this country we have people who move here with no money, claim they are in some sort of danger in their own country so can not return, claim state benefits whislt all the while spreading hate about the western civilisations that support them. Anyone, rich or poor, with an ounce of sense should see the absolutely ridiculous oxymoron this is.

What a lot of people in this country do not realise that there is a difference between Nationalism and Racialism, look it up, you might be surprised.

Anyhoo,

**cablefreejunkie** · 8 February, 2011, 23:21

Originally posted by bobwill

We do not have to leave these shores brown and his loney left idiots have open the gates let every one in it is like a foreign country in some towns,and the only ones that have not noticed it are the middle class do gooders and the loney left, and as soon as some one say anything about it the shout from the looneys and do gooders is BIGOT or racist

how very eloquently put
"we do not have to leave these shores brown"
unfortunately in times of need this great country you are defending has had to call on many people to defend these shores,and this includes many people whose skin is of a slightly more darker shade than youres,citizens who fought for this country during two world wars and who decided after invitation for there services, to take up residency in the uk,settled and had children who grew up here and class themselves as british as you and i
i think the trouble is that the right wing press love to whip up hysteria amongst the working class,and what better way to do this than attack the minority,,
youre comments about the looney left are utter shite and so is your comment about middle class,you need education pal
and your buddy cameron couldnt of timed it better when he made his rousing speech as it coincided nicely with the mass edl marches over the weekend

**mattybhoy** · 8 February, 2011, 23:26

Originally posted by tshirtman

here we go. anyone who dares to criticize this country's immigration policy must be a right wing racist,
Enoch Powell, predicted in 1968, that the population in this country would be made up of 10% immigrants by 2005,(and he was spot on), the point he was making is we cannot carry on having an open door policy, letting anyone and everyone in, we are a small island with limited housing stock and school places,
we need tighter rules on how many people we let in, look at country's like Australia, and how strict they are, or are they a bunch of racists as well,
I don't give a shite about brits living abroad, and those that do move out, probably don't arrive on foreign shores without a penny to there name or nowhere to live,
I have a responsibility to my children and I want a good future for them, not being priced out of the housing market or facing mass unemployment, which is where we are heading now.
like most people, you here the sound bites, and don't listen to the core of the argument.

I've got to say it cuts both ways re your comment that anyone who disagrees with this countries immigration policy is labeled a right wing racist. I've seen looney left mentioned also on this thread for people who don't see anything wrong with a multicultural society.

Just picking up on a few points made..

Limited Housing stock. In terms of homes being built there has been a boom in recent years. There are far more affordable houses now than there has been for some time, though social housing numbers have been in decline. There are many reasons for this - most of which the previous Conservative Gov' should hold it hands up for. RTB scheme, funding being cut to local government from central government - meaning that local authorities did not spend enough on there vast social housing stock. Which has meant that large amounts of social housing is not up to the decent homes standard, resulting in many thousands of homes being demolished. Short sighted Tory policies of the 80's to blame.

Immigration in Oz. You're right Australia does have a strict policy - I take it you think that's right and it's right what there government has done in the past? Did you think it was right what they did re the Vietnamese boat people? And re the Australians being racist..It's a sweeping statement and of course it does not apply to many, but I've done a fair bit of traveling and I spent a year in Oz a few years back. In my opinion it's the single most racist country I've visited. How they have treated the Aborigines is nothing short of disgraceful. I know your comment was meant to be tongue in cheek, but it's actually correct.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with 10% of the population being immigrants. Me and my family are immigrants. All working hard, all paying into the UK system - unlike a fair few of the 'indigenous' population. The richest and most powerful nation on earth(which the UK have being sucking up to for many a year) is also the most multicultural.

You mentioned about the core of the argument and the numbers of immigrants in the UK. From the 50's (and earlier for some countries nationals) why do you think many immagrants have come to the UK? That's the real core of the argument. When the British empire fell, do you think many of the countries were in a better state for what the British did for them? Also the doors were well and truely open when trying to encourage cheap labour from the Commonwealth to help build the UK back up.

Cablefree is bang on in saying that the masses are being fed a line that 'everything is down to the immigrants'. Whether you like it or not this same line has been used by the BNP for years and was also used to an extent by the Nazi party in Germany. Now the Tory party are using it as a way of getting the masses (predominantley working class) on side. If people are taken in by it or choose to believe it, it's up to them.

**cablefreejunkie** · 8 February, 2011, 23:29

Originally posted by masur123

If you must know I have never voted Tory in my life, and to be honest your comments that he is only saying these sort of things to get the working class people on board is quite offending. It sort of implies that if you say anything about immigration it would only be the working class people who would listen and think "hmm what a strong leader he is, I will vote for him next time because I do not have an opinion for myself." Get over yourself.

Whether he lives in a different world to me, and doesnt go through the trials and tribulations I do, does not matter. It only matters that he and I probably share the same view on how this country is heading, and what the fundamental causes are.

As tshirt states, Brits who move abroad do so with money in their pocket, or are willing to work in the country they have moved too. If they go on religious reasons, it is usually to assist in poorer parts of the world, whilst also spreading the word of their religion.

In this country we have people who move here with no money, claim they are in some sort of danger in their own country so can not return, claim state benefits whislt all the while spreading hate about the western civilisations that support them. Anyone, rich or poor, with an ounce of sense should see the absolutely ridiculous oxymoron this is.

What a lot of people in this country do not realise that there is a difference between Nationalism and Racialism, look it up, you might be surprised.

Anyhoo,

where do you get your facts from ? the red top paper you read on a daily basis ??
you quote an awful lot of people in this country,,who are these people you talk about ? i pressume you are reading from someone elses text or if not you have made all the above paragraph in your head

**cablefreejunkie** · 8 February, 2011, 23:32

Originally posted by smirnoff_rules

another problem is letting people in from country's where there way of life is nothing like ours .. ie : no laws in there country , human life is worthless , raping children or women is the norm ,

how can we change there genetic make up

raping women and children is the norm,,,blimey where is this place you know all these facts about,please enlighten me so i never go there myself,,sounds like hell on earth,,i take it you have been there and witnessed this first hand ?

**cablefreejunkie** · 8 February, 2011, 23:38

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how can we change there genetic make up[/QUOTE]

blimey are you serious,i didnt notice the last piece of your rousing pennysworth
change the genetic makeup
if you find a way let me know first as my mate in recruitment could get you a highly paid job in the usa on the eugenics program !!!

**cablefreejunkie** · 8 February, 2011, 23:40

Originally posted by lfc4life

MUNICH, Germany ***8212; Prime Minister David Cameron, in a speech attended by world leaders, on Saturday criticized his country***8217;s longstanding policy of multiculturalism, saying it was an outright failure and partly to blame for fostering Islamist extremism.
He said the U.K. needs a stronger national identity to prevent people turning to extremism.
"If we are to defeat this threat, I believe it's time to turn the page on the failed policies of the past," he told an international conference in Munich.

British PM: Multiculturalism has failed
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***8220;Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we have encouraged different cultures to live separate lives, apart from each other and the mainstream,***8221; Cameron said during a panel discussion attended by German Chancellor Angela Merkel. ***8220;We have failed to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong.***8221;
He said the ***8220;hands-off tolerance***8221; in Britain and other European nations has encouraged Muslims and other immigrant groups ***8220;to live separate lives, apart from each other and the mainstream.***8221;
Muslim groups in the U.K. quickly condemned the remarks. Among them was the Muslim Council of Britain, which receives government money for projects intended to combat extremism. The council said that the Muslim community was still being treated "as part of the problem as opposed to part of the solution."
Many also criticized the timing of the speech, which took place on the day that members of the far-right English Defence League (EDL) held a rally in the ethnically mixed city of Luton to protest the spread of Islam in Britain.
Cameron did not mention the EDL, but a lawmaker for the opposition Labour Party, Sadiq Khan, accused him of "writing propaganda for the EDL," AFP reported.
Cameron***8217;s remarks echoed statements made last year by Merkel last year, when she also called multiculturalism a failure.

Maybe the only time he says something that makes sense... And i know i am not the only who thinks this!

i suppose you think hes the man to put the great back into britain ?
the fella is a complete koont who has no idea about multiculturalism

**lfc4life** · 9 February, 2011, 00:02

wish i had never started this

British PM David Cameron says Multiculturalism has failed

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