Bulld0gs Liverpool Thread

[mrgasman]

You havent won anything yet softlad -

Dont count your chickens just yet -

Where in the post you quoted do I say it's won already ?

Originally Posted by mrgasman
Good honest post mate it beats the weve got 5 bile that's been served up in recenty pages. I would not swap that shirt deal for our league places though
Would make a great story if Torres thwarted our assault but the Arsenal game now holds key for me. We shall see eh
I would love to see Utd take a 19th title and step from under the vast shadow come May but if not then the celebrations can simply be performed at a later stage in my life.

[pillapow]

Where in the post you quoted do I say it's won already ?

You didnt but you come across as if its in the bag and what not - Do you think you can get past Shalke and Beat Real or Barca ? Shalke are a very good side and lets be honest Uniteds form over the last month or so has been piss poor, Scraped a win against Chelsea, Lost to a poor City side that we riped to bits afew days earlier, Drew at toon, Lucky not to lose in fact, Few peno decisions went your way, Had to try and cheat for a pen but got caught out, Barely scraped a win at Everton... Now a hoard of big games ensue -

[mrgasman]

You didnt but you come across as if its in the bag and what not - Do you think you can get past Shalke and Beat Real or Barca ? Shalke are a very good side and lets be honest Uniteds form over the last month or so has been piss poor, Scraped a win against Chelsea, Lost to a poor City side that we riped to bits afew days earlier, Drew at toon, Lucky not to lose in fact, Few peno decisions went your way, Had to try and cheat for a pen but got caught out, Barely scraped a win at Everton... Now a hoard of big games ensue -

No I didn't did I now I'm not counting any chickens but have said that we are in a great postion. There is not one team in the league who wouldn't swap places with Utd just now and wouldn't you like to have that run of big games in front of you rather than hoping for 5th ?
Champions league semi and big games in a title run in ah well you will be in place for a title run next year (now you actually did say that ).
Like I've said if we win the league we will deserve it for being the best of a bad bunch and if we don't I will understand that also.

[pillapow]

No I didn't did I now I'm not counting any chickens but have said that we are in a great postion. There is not one team in the league who wouldn't swap places with Utd just now and wouldn't you like to have that run of big games in front of you rather than hoping for 5th ?
Champions league semi and big games in a title run in ah well you will be in place for a title run next year (now you actually did say that ).
Like I've said if we win the league we will deserve it for being the best of a bad bunch and if we don't I will understand that also.

So you dont think we are playing well enough to go for the title next season then ?

Of course you deserve it - Im not saying you arent - Arsenal have faultered at the critical moments -

[mrgasman]

So you dont think we are playing well enough to go for the title next season then ?

Of course you deserve it - Im not saying you arent - Arsenal have faltered at the critical moments -

It's not about playing well in bursts it's a long season, and no I dont think Liverpool have the squad for the marathon (could have a good cup run though). The cheque book will need to open big time along with the exit door and even then the squad will need to adjust which can take a season or two. Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal have big squads (and City are testament to needing time to adjust) but Chelsea's is an old squad in need of a clear out. Arsenal is a squad to young (but there day will dawn soon) we have seen by their mental collapse they are not yet ready. Utd's squad is in need of attention especially through the midfield and with retirements of old legends imminent, but it is quite solid otherwise. Which leaves City and they will be the main threat and not to Utd as we will challenge for titles (may not win them but challenge all the same) but a threat to your Champions league spot. If City break in this season then a different class of player will want to play for them which is bad news for Utd but it's terrible news if your outside the big 4.

[pillapow]

It's not about playing well in bursts it's a long season, and no I dont think Liverpool have the squad for the marathon (could have a good cup run though). The cheque book will need to open big time along with the exit door and even then the squad will need to adjust which can take a season or two. Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal have big squads (and City are testament to needing time to adjust) but Chelsea's is an old squad in need of a clear out. Arsenal is a squad to young (but there day will dawn soon) we have seen by their mental collapse they are not yet ready. Utd's squad is in need of attention especially through the midfield and with retirements of old legends imminent, but it is quite solid otherwise. Which leaves City and they will be the main threat and not to Utd as we will challenge for titles (may not win them but challenge all the same) but a threat to your Champions league spot. If City break in this season then a different class of player will want to play for them which is bad news for Utd but it's terrible news if your outside the big 4.

Tried to speak civil with you but it isnt working mate, You are in denial, You are a United fan though, Thats to be expected - See you next season -

As for "opening the cheque book" when was the last time United did that ? We hold British shirt sponsor record, British transfer record - I wont say we are a bigger club because you will go into defence mode again - The dark days are closing in for United, You know this dont you ?

[mrgasman]

Tried to speak civil with you but it isnt working mate, You are in denial, You are a United fan though, Thats to be expected - See you next season -

As for "opening the cheque book" when was the last time United did that ? We hold British shirt sponsor record, British transfer record - I wont say we are a bigger club because you will go into defence mode again - The dark days are closing in for United, You know this dont you ?

I did notice that Pilla and my reply was civil also and it contained my honest opinion on why I don't think Liverpool will be challenging just yet (it wasnt meant to be offensive). I may be wrong on some points or I may be right and others would disagree but that's the trouble with opinions isn't it they are like arseholes, everybody's got one. Utd do open the cheque book most seasons but fact is we need to service someone else's debt and were a bit tight so we may well spend our time looking for little peas and recalling the like's of Cleverly and Wellbeck.

[pillapow]

I did notice that Pilla and my reply was civil also and it contained my honest opinion on why I don't think Liverpool will be challenging just yet (it wasnt meant to be offensive). I may be wrong on some points or I may be right and others would disagree but that's the trouble with opinions isn't it they are like arseholes, everybody's got one. Utd do open the cheque book most seasons but fact is we need to service someone else's debt and were a bit tight so we may well spend our time looking for little peas and recalling the like's of Cleverly and Wellbeck.

Well good luck with that lark-

[imanob]

well it seems this is a runner do you think its good that we feel so strongly about our teams and will argue eveything said about them so heres my go i have to give utd credit for what they have achived over the past 20yrs dont think any of us reds could argue that but just to remind you and as been said on this forum many times football didnt start with sky so lets remember it took utd 26yrs to win it again and also a other 20 to beat our record if they do it this year so althou we have waited to long to win it again and i have no doubts we will win it again utds record is not that great considering how long it has took them

[opsmonkey]

Any Reds who missed Saturday's goals..

Goals: Liverpool 5 v 0 Birmingham City ? Kop That - Liverpool FC

[opsmonkey]

You all know me.. bit of a photoshop geek..

My take on a Warrior design for season 2012/13

[pillapow]

Good effort but that reminds me of the old candy kits

[thered]

Bigger club is hard to define.. Both sets of fans can rake up mass support across the world.. The fact that a team that hasn't won a domestic league title for 21 years can demand a bigger shirt sponsorship deal than the club that has dominated for the past 15 speaks volumes to show that like it or not Liverpool FC still carries massive weight in the footballing world..

Most successful... Currently still LFC.. The fact that we are seen as the benchmark hurts the mancs.. The fact that after lying dormant for so long their success is and will be cast under our shadow really grips there pissers... Come May if they win they can brake out of that domestic shadow..

Most successful in the past 15 years.. Utd no arguments..

However if el ratto judas boy now fires Chelsea to the league title it may just be the best bit of business ever done by a Liverpool manager..

Gets rid of a sulk for ?50m, buys in 2 committed players, judas looks a tit for 4 months then steals the trophy away from the mancs..

How good would that be.. especially when later that same week Messi and co make them look like blurts again but this time on home turf

i agree with most of what you said however apart from defining the bigger club on a world base is us and i dont think there would be that many scousers who would disagree if they were honest

i will define bigger club we have the biggest turnover the biggest crowds and we sell over 1/2 a million more shirts a year worldwide than yourselves our deal pulls in ?25M a season now and was signed in 2000 so to be pulling a similar deal a massive 11 years later shows actually how far you are behind we will be looking at around ?40M for the next one. We were worth more than FSG sport payed for you now than when the glazers took over. We are currently worth more than double maybe even 3 times what your club is worth

We are by far the bigger club we are englands crown jewel as a football institution but admittedly we are not quite as succesful

domestically we have our noses in front (just) by way of fa cup outranking league cup

european cup you have the edge with 2

i am going to define and being honest you are the most succesful team in england at the minute

by way of counting your 18+5 which gives you the major honours in football 23 times in total

by which we have currently 21 and 2 trophies less hopefully come end of may it will be 22

no messing with cups world club bollox or whatevr on like for like where it matters you are just ahead and i dont really like to admit it but you are the more succesfull at this moment in time

but you are nowhere near the biggest and hopefully this moment in time will soon be gone

[wongers]

glad to see you've finally come to your senses with this post been observing the cat fight on here for the last few days but didn't feel the need to contribute as others were posting eloquently (well nearly all) find it amusing that you that you keep banging on about being the biggest club when really you should be striving to be the best as we have always done, its rather like two kids fighting over who's got the biggest dad which when you think about is irrelevant ,nice to see fergie on the news telling the world he'd like to be up there with the other super powers of europe like madrid & liverpool you carry on being bigger than us we'll try to carry on being more successfull than you

[thered]

glad to see you've finally come to your senses with this post been observing the cat fight on here for the last few days but didn't feel the need to contribute as others were posting eloquently (well nearly all) find it amusing that you that you keep banging on about being the biggest club when really you should be striving to be the best as we have always done

we dont need to strive to be the best we have been the best in the country for the last 20 years

you are confusing being the best with being succesfull over an entire history of which you are currently the latter

they are 2 different things

there was a time when sunderland and villa were the most succesful english club but you dont here them banging on about it

does that make them the best no or even one of the best again no

the best is the person or team who is currently top of the tree ahead of their peers which is something we always strive for being the biggest is just a bonus