Bulld0gs Liverpool Thread

[maca]

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Hahahahaha . Lost for words hahahaha

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Sad news about tony hateley loved the man when I was a kid. Deepest sympathy to his family

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Stop taking the piss out of THE CHOSEN ONE he's doing a great job

At the mo it's hard to see what he was chosen for. Maybe the kit man retires this year

[Wolfpack]

Very poor game today. Rodgers tactics suck. Shouldn't drop points against teams like West Brom. Can't believe Liverpool didn't sign a CD or DM in the transfer window.

[koppit]

Very poor game today. Rodgers tactics suck. Shouldn't drop points against teams like West Brom. Can't believe Liverpool didn't sign a CD or DM in the transfer window.

wasn't the best result, more so because we knew what we needed to do before the kick off and next up is arsenal. a win today would have meant a draw next week would be a good result. that said we've taken four points off west brom this year as apposed to none last year. lmho the club aint got a working transfer policy at the mo. either theres no cash or no trust in the people putting forward the target players

[southpaw]

lmho the club aint got a working transfer policy at the mo. either theres no cash or no trust in the people putting forward the target players

if you believe a club like yours is being ran like that your deluded mate, the yanks will have the smartest business men in the land working deals , they dont invest that big to do things half hearted

[wongers]

today's gaff by toure has been coming all season the way we try to play the ball out from the back we invite the opposition to close us down and then its panic stations if you want to play from the back you have to have people who are good on the ball and confident ,we haven't ,hope it's a lesson learned

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if you believe a club like yours is being ran like that your deluded mate, the yanks will have the smartest business men in the land working deals , they dont invest that big to do things half hearted

Seriously, the smartest businessmen in the land? And I'm deluded. If your so smart why has a club like mine been outbid or lost out on every player they've shown an interest in lately. Maybe they're half hearted about investing in new players or they don't trust the opinions of the scouts. Maybe it's more complicated. Either way it isn't working is it

[maca]

No its ian ayre the man is a toss pot who who is shit scared to spend money we lost salah because of this.

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http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/457538/Liverpool-s-failure-to-capture-Yevhen-Konoplyanka-revealed#.Uu50MJd4-t0.facebook

Something isn't right. We announce two new sponsorship deals during the transfer window but fail to sign players that were virtually in the bag. Where are our priorities really?





LIVERPOOL'S move for Ukrainian star Yevhen Konoplyanka collapsed after the Anfield side failed to deliver the transfer money on time.


NO DEAL Dnipro claim Liverpool failed to provide the funds for Konoplyanka s transfer NO DEAL: Dnipro claim Liverpool failed to provide the funds for Konoplyanka's transfer.

The winger's club Dnipro claim the 24-year-old was set to link up with Brendan Rodgers after Liverpool agreed to meet his ?15million buy-out-clause.

However, the money never arrived before the transfer deadline and the deal fell through.

Initial reports suggested the move was held up by Dnipro's billionaire owner Igor Kolomoisky, but Executive Director Andriy Rusol claims this was not the case.

He said: "The president could not keep the midfielder because his contract spelled out the specific amount of compensation.

"In fact, the British did not have time to complete the transaction. Our club could not sign the documents until our account received the money. And they did not receive anything before the deadline."

Rodgers was convinced Liverpool had got their man.

Up to the deadline we were waiting for the transfer of money from Liverpool. But this did not happen

Rusol also criticised Ian Ayre's handling of the transfer, saying that Liverpool could have tied up the deal days before the window shut.

He said: "Igor Kolomoisky gave the go-ahead immediately. It is not our fault, Liverpool representatives could have arrived a day or two earlier.

"Up to the deadline we were waiting for the transfer of money from Liverpool. But this did not happen."

The revelation is sure to infuriate Brendan Rodgers, who also missed out on Chelsea new-boy Mohamed Salah.

The Kop boss was desperate to inject his squad with some fresh faces as they look to finish in the top four, but was offered some encouragement by Rusol who claimed that a deal for Konoplyanka could happen in the summer.

Rusol said: "Yevhen is a very strong person and a true professional. He knows that his move to a big club is only a matter of time."

[khan07958]

Not a good result today and feel with all the injuries we have, Brendon needed to be given some signings.
Not sure these owners can take us, where we need to go.
As for Ian Ayre, wtf was he doing there for 3 days!
Far to many players targetted going to other clubs, clearly something not right.

I think Brendon may get p...d off sooner or latter as if he is not going to be backed he may jump ship.
Taking into fact this is the best postion we have been in recently, we needed to bring in min 2 players to push on.

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At the moment there are a lot of stories doing the rounds. Most involve money not available at the deadline or us undercutting our own valuation, some that the negotiations just went on and on. Seems like we've been here before.
Rumour mill says we've made an approach to resign Torres !!!

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Rumour mill says we've made an approach to resign Torres !!!

i hope that's all it is, a rumour.

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Hillsborough disaster survivors 'threatened by police'
By Peter Marshall
BBC Newsnight

Survivor "John": "I had to stand on him to get out"

Survivors of Hillsborough have said they were intimidated and threatened by police from the independent force asked to investigate the football disaster.

BBC Newsnight has heard that witness criticisms of police who had been at the scene were not properly recorded.

This is the first time fans have come forward to question how West Midlands police took their statements.

The force declined to comment pending ongoing inquiries and the forthcoming inquests into the deaths of 96 fans.

The Liverpool fans died when a crush developed on an overcrowded terrace at Sheffield Wednesday's Hillsborough ground, during an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest in April 1989.

The Hillsborough Independent Panel reported 18 months ago that 164 accounts from South Yorkshire police - the local force - had been changed, apparently to shift the blame for the disaster from the police on to the fans.

Nick Braley, who was a teenage student at the time, said that when he told West Midlands officers three weeks later that South Yorkshire police failings had caused the disaster, he was told he could face prosecution.

'Scared, traumatised'
He says he was "scared and intimidated" by a West Midlands officer.

"I'm a 19-year-old boy, three weeks out of Hillsborough, traumatised, and he's threatening me that he's going to put together a case for wasting police time because he didn't like my evidence," he says.

Newsnight has found that his experience is typical of those cited by a number of Hillsborough survivors.

Hillsborough disaster
Ninety-six fans died as a result of a crush at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final
Some of the West Midlands officers seemed to regard them not as vulnerable and invaluable witnesses keen to make truthful statements, but more like suspects.

"John" - not his real name - was 17 when he went to the match.

He struggled to survive in pen three, behind the goal on the Leppings Lane terrace.

At one point he lost consciousness and came to among the dead and dying.

"I remember standing next to a guy with dark, greasy hair, obviously from the sweat. We were totally pushed against each other in such a way that it's impossible to describe," he says.

"It was just me and him fighting for our lives. And I don't know if he was one of the 96 [who died], but I know that I had to stand on him to get out."

'I was broken'
Once on the pitch, John helped carry bodies to the gymnasium before collapsing. "I was broken," he says.

He tells how when two West Midlands officers arrived to take his statement at his home in Huyton, Merseyside, they sent his parents out.

John told them of police mismanagement at Hillsborough and how he planned to join the police to help prevent anything like it recurring.

According to John, the officers refused to let him read his own statement, saying, "I've written what you told me. All you need to do is sign this now."

He says he felt physically intimidated and powerless as the pair stood around him. He signed.

The 96 victims of the Hillsborough disaster
Families have campaigned for "Justice for the 96" ever since the disaster
Nick Braley went to the semi-final as a neutral, excited to have been given a ticket by a friend.

He says the officer taking his statement was not impressed.

"I'd been wearing a Free Mandela T-shirt," he says.

This prompted aggressive questions. "Was I a student agitator? Was I a member of the Socialist Workers Party? I'm just a fan at a game of football. He then turned on me and said I was a criminal with a grudge against the police."

At one point, he says, the police suggested he had not even been at the game. When he produced his ticket, he was told he could have found it.

Professor Phil Scraton, of Queens University, Belfast, who was the main author of the Hillsborough Independent Panel's report, which led to the scrapping of the 1990 inquest verdicts and the setting up of two fresh investigations, believes many witnesses were subjected to what were effectively interrogations.

'Suicide attempt'
He sees a clear parallel between the way South Yorkshire police questioned the bereaved on the night of the disaster - asking whether they or those they had lost had been drinking and checking for criminal records - and the statement-taking of the West Midlands force.

He says both forces shared the same mindset and this has deepened the trauma for survivors.

For John, what he calls "survivor guilt" reached a peak 15 years after Hillsborough.

He was a detective in the Metropolitan Police's murder squad, frequently blotting out his feelings about Hillsborough with drink.

Names and ages of some of the victims are inscribed on the Hillsborough memorial at Anfield Stadium, the home of Liverpool Football Club
There is a permanent memorial to the victims at Liverpool's Anfield stadium
By 2004, overwhelmed, he attempted suicide by driving his car into a tree. He resigned from the force after a disciplinary hearing.

Following the independent panel report, he finally got to see the statement he was refused sight of 25 years ago. He says there were no surprises: "It's as I thought. It's not my account." He says it even places him in the wrong part of the ground.

Nick Braley also feels his statement does not reflect the truth. He's also now got access to internal West Midlands police memos and notes referring to his case. And there, handwritten, are the lines "came across as totally anti-police... at first doubted had been at the match".

And then there's his Nelson Mandela T-shirt. "Was wearing a 'left wing' type 'T' shirt, actual motif not known."

Watch Peter Marshall's film in full on Newsnight on Monday 3 February at 22:30 on BBC Two, and then afterwards on the Newsnight website and BBC iPlayer.