Rangers FC Thread

[johnboy1974]

Matty I think the debt should be paid by the club and that Dunfermline should reject the money. it's not right fans pay enough for the privellage already.

[johnboy1974]

allyoops if you are unhappy with a posting then please use the report it button, thats what I done with Brian Lara's post ( inciting hatred)

[AgentD]

I saw that post. Good on you, John.

[barrowmanandrew]

cha du ri red card

Calum Murray's decision to send off the 31-year-old has been upheld despite Celtic's appeal to overturn it.

SFA disciplinary panel upholds Cha Du Ri dismissal | Football | STV Sport

[johnboy1974]

guys I see Brian Lara's post was deleted because it was reported, this is what the mods want us all to do. Use the report it button instead of complaining about the content of a post or getting into an argument. Let's all work together to keep the rangers and Celtic threads clean, respectful and full of content that we can all enjoy and debate over.

[johnboy1974]

Calum Murray's decision to send off the 31-year-old has been upheld despite Celtic's appeal to overturn it.

SFA disciplinary panel upholds Cha Du Ri dismissal | Football | STV Sport

personally I think he was hard done by but I respect the refs decision. Celtic have to start respecting the refs decision too and move on, it's futile to constantly berate the refs and the establishment .

[barrowmanandrew]

personally I think he was hard done by but I respect the refs decision. Celtic have to start respecting the refs decision too and move on, it's futile to constantly berate the refs and the establishment .

my view entirely, i thought the sending off was a bit soft.
players in general seem to be taking more and more risks by shirt pulling, dubious use of arms and diving in and around the box.


referees have a tough job to do, it makes no sense to question every decision they make.
accept the decision and move on...

[KDC]

personally I think he was hard done by but I respect the refs decision. Celtic have to start respecting the refs decision too and move on, it's futile to constantly berate the refs and the establishment .

I agree John its over and done now. After all we have a title and Scottish cup to win.

[allycoops]

Matty I think the debt should be paid by the club and that Dunfermline should reject the money. it's not right fans pay enough for the privellage already.

What you on about John, the debt is being paid by the club with permission from the committee of the Fighting fund. The money in that fund is for Rangers and donated by fans.
Once its donated its Rangers Money to use how they want. So the club with permission from the fund committee are paying Dunfermline. Dunfermline are 9 million in the shit , part of that shit was caused by us do you honestly think Dunfermline are going to reject the cash wherever it comes from.

FFS, who needs enemies when we have fans like you. You should be proud of your club and your fellow fans for doing this, You sure you're a Bear.

As for Dundee Hibs I hope they have to whistle for their cash after they way they treated our fans putting up ticket prices and not honouring tickets for replayed games. ~~~~ Them.

As for Celtic's title, yep, but the cup aint won yet, I'm sure Hearts.hibs and sheep will have something to say about it hopefully

[johnboy1974]

What you on about John, the debt is being paid by the club with permission from the committee of the Fighting fund. The money in that fund is for Rangers and donated by fans.
Once its donated its Rangers Money to use how they want. So the club with permission from the fund committee are paying Dunfermline. Dunfermline are 9 million in the shit , part of that shit was caused by us do you honestly think Dunfermline are going to reject the cash wherever it comes from.

FFS, who needs enemies when we have fans like you. You should be proud of your club and your fellow fans for doing this, You sure you're a Bear.

As for Dundee Hibs I hope they have to whistle for their cash after they way they treated our fans putting up ticket prices and not honouring tickets for replayed games. ~~~~ Them.

As for Celtic's title, yep, but the cup aint won yet, I'm sure Hearts.hibs and sheep will have something to say about it hopefully

Ally i am a rangers fan, maybe i just see a bigger picture than you, but i thought the fighting fund was to keep rangers alive- not dunfermline.
I dont see how paying dunfermline such a small amount of money will save rangers in the long run.

[allycoops]

It is to keep Rangers ticking over until a new buyer takes over John.

We could of said ~~~~ Dunfermline and they would have became creditors like the rest.
Dunfermline acted honourably to us when we didnt have the cash to pay them and we have returned the gesture by paying them now.

I think that is the right thing to do concerning them.

Dundee UTD, well they reap what you sow.

dunfermline had already been paid 60K, we have now paid the balance.

As to the Bigger Picture? do you honestly think 22K makes any real difference to our survival. if it had been 2 million then maybe. But 22k to dunfermline is a hell of a lot of cash

[johnboy1974]

Ally i think it better if the money is saved up till it snowballs then maybe it can be used to pay a bigger more important bill that will probably pop up soon. Using small chunks of it like this is futile in my opinion.

[allycoops]

from Kenny Clark in the Sun

By Kenny Clark.

The Celtic boss is intelligent, articulate, entertaining and amusing.

But all of this is AWAY from a football park.

If anything, he is now more out of control at the side of the pitch than he ever was on it.

When he was on the park he at least realised if he was sent off he'd be accountable to others.

If he lost the place he was answerable to his team-mates at the end of the game and Martin O'Neill his then manager.

When he played for Celtic there were restraints placed upon him.

Now, as manager of Celtic, I can't help but feel there are no controls on him at all.

Right now he is a loose cannon and the slightest thing seems to set him off.

Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell is not doing enough to stop this from happening.

He should be meeting this head on and telling Lennon enough is enough.

He should be pointing out to Lennon this is no way for the Celtic manager to behave.

Lennon can't keep going in the same vein.

But the danger is no one at Celtic seems prepared to pull him aside and tell him straight, this is not on.

There is no doubt Lawwell should be doing more.

Rangers and Celtic are the two most influential clubs in the country.

And I know from watching my own son play football, this is true now more than ever before.

Youngsters and coaches are watching and mimicking their every move.

Ironically, Lennon was talking at the weekend about not being able to do his job. Really?

Why then was he sticking his nose into ref Calum Murray's affairs?

Murray, right, should have been allowed to do his job too.

Given his side's first-half performance at Ibrox, Lennon should have been walking up the tunnel thinking about what he was going to say to his players.

What does he want the ref to say: 'OK Neil on reflection considering what you have said, and with the language you have used, let's replay the first half'.

That is not going to happen. Lennon should have been concentrating on galvanising his own players.

Can you imagine the furore if Murray had approached Lennon in the tunnel at half-time and said: 'Hey, Neil, I want to have a word with you about your tactics and why Lee McCulloch is running amok against Charlie Mulgrew and Thomas Rogne'.

Lennon would have been apoplectic ? and rightly so.

Everyone remembers what happened last season when referees decided enough was enough and withdrew their labour.

The pressure on them at the time was remarkable, they were driven to that decision.

For a while after the strike, coaches and managers recognised they had to be a bit more restrained with their comments.

They recognised refs had a part to play in the game and that, just like the players, they will make mistakes.

It seems to me we are now sliding back down the slippery slope.

I don't think refs will go on strike again this season ? purely because we've only got seven games to go.

But I wouldn't be surprised if the events of the past two weeks are discussed at length by the officials in the summer.

We simply can't have a repeat of the scenario where the referee is blamed for every defeat.

When Celtic were on that great unbeaten run we heard very little, if any, criticism of referees.

All of a sudden, after back-to-back domestic defeats, things are getting piled on refs again.

Is Lennon being manipulative? Is he trying to take the heat off himself?

Is he trying to create a siege mentality? Who knows.

I suspect he simply explodes at the side of a park. I was at a dinner last week, before the Old Firm game was played.

I was sat next to a couple of Celtic fans and I left with the distinct impression that Lennon has now become an embarrassment to the silent majority.

They have had enough of his outbursts.

Remember, these guys were saying all of this BEFORE last Sunday's match at Ibrox.

Lennon keeps pushing it and pushing it and I've no doubt a dim view of his actions will be taken by those in power at Hampden. Quite simply, he can't be allowed to conduct himself in this manner every time a result goes against him.

And that brings us to this Sunday and the clash with St Johnstone at Celtic Park.

George Salmond is the man in the middle and I don't envy him at all.

Under the circumstances it will be a difficult game to referee.

But I'm sure he'll do what all officials would do in that situation.

Shut out the outside influence and concentrate on taking charge of the match.

That's all he can do ? that's all any ref can do.

[allycoops]

Latest from the Record

Mar 30 2012
Exclusive by Keith Jackson

BRIAN KENNEDY last night threw his weight behind Paul Murray?s plan to rescue Rangers.
And the Sale Sharks owner insisted he could team up with the Blue Knights if they need his cash to help oust Craig Whyte.
Kennedy reluctantly took a step back from the race to save the club from Whyte?s clutches yesterday when he was told by administrators his bid was not one of the biggest offers on the table.
Record Sport understands Murray?s group and a consortium from Chicago involving Club 9 Sports are considered by Duff and Phelps to be the two front runners now, although an unnamed British bidder and a party from Singapore are also still involved.
But, in an exclusive interview, Kennedy made clear his belief the Blue Knights should be given the keys to Ibrox.
And he did not rule out the prospect of adding some of his wealth to their bid.
Kennedy said: ?No, I would not rule myself out of getting involved with the Blue Knights if they need me to help save the club. If they need me, I?ll be there. If they don?t, I won?t. It?s all about saving the club.
?For now I will let Paul get on with this as he seems to have his investors all sorted out.
?The reason I don?t like consortiums is because it is so difficult to get all the parties around one table and to agree on things.
?But Paul has managed to get everything in place and organised to the point that he is able to produce the funds required. Therefore there is no need at this stage to involve me.?
Murray was quick to welcome Kennedy?s backing and also refused to rule out the prospect of teaming up.
Murray told Record Sport: ?I?ve been speaking regularly with Brian throughout this process and I am convinced he is a genuine guy who has the club?s best interests at heart. For that reason I am open to the idea of Brian joining our group.
?We need all the help and the ideas we can get because there are huge challenges facing the club and a great deal of work to be done.?
Kennedy also called for Whyte to back down on his threat to tip the club into liquidation rather than hand his shares over to Murray.
After emergency talks with Whyte in London on Wednesday, Duff and Phelps remain confident the shamed owner will NOT block any sale.
Kennedy, though, remains on a watching brief and says he will be willing to step in again should the club be plunged any further towards oblivion.
But he is now convinced that Murray?s rescue package is the best deal for the club.
He said: ?Currently I am the lowest bid. From day one I have always said I am here as a back stop should everything else fail and that remains the case. I am here to ensure Rangers doesn?t go out of business.
?The critical thing is that we need to move forward to ensure that we can put together a substantial team on the park in time for next season. Paul feels exactly the same way and we talk extensively every day about this.
?As things stand, we have players who have inserted clauses into their contracts which enable them to get out at the end of the season at a reduced value.
?They or their agents are probably going to be talking to other clubs because of all the uncertainty which surrounds Rangers.
?These guys will want to know who is going to be the owner? What are his plans going to be for the squad? How stable is the club going to be financially? What is the strategy of the owner?
?So the administrator needs to move quickly now to chose a best bidder. They need to chose the buyer and grant him a period of exclusivity in order to get this deal done.
?I hope that will be done with Paul because he definitely has the right intentions for the club and understands what is needed.
?So hopefully he can get in next week and start talking to the players and the manager and making all the plans that need to be made.?

[scottymo76]

Lads,

The fighting fund is set up to provide a financial back up service that allows Rangers to operate.

One of it's aims is to remove small debtors from the potential CVA pot thus allowing administration to be exited that little bit easier.

It is right that we paid Dunfermline however Dundee Utd CHARGED us money to get into a rearranged game from an abandonment so why should we pay people like that.

Thompson hates us and thinks he will be better off without us. This is just a short reminder that he wouldn't be.

Personally I would boycott Tannadice next season (Celtic fans should do the same as he treats them just as bad) and watch them die.