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  • Goodfella UK
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 40

    #16
    Originally posted by opsmonkey
    you always look for trouble and find it..

    No one likes you because you're not about football just about fighting..

    Millwall v Birmingham - May 2002 - Described as "one of the worst cases of civil disorder seen in Great Britain"

    I was there and I can hold my hands up and say it was all Millwalls fault

    Millwall v Liverpool - 2004 - Millwall fans shouted "You should have all died at Hillsborough"

    I was also at this game and what a great night it was but the " you should have all died at hillsborough" is rubbish there was a few that was singing "hillsborough, hillsborough" but it was so few that when the fa tried to charge us for it they fell flat on their faces due the sound recording in the ground could not even pick it up, oh yeah not forgetting that most of the people that wrote to the fa about it turned out they was not even at the game and was told by a friend

    Hull v Millwall - FA Cup - Jan 2009 - seats, coins and plastic bottles being thrown at the Hull supporters. Around 50 seats were pulled out

    Yet again I was there, and yes seats and objects were thrown for nearly 2/3's of the game by both sets of fans, I was even greeted with a 50 pence piece just missing my head and hitting the wall behind me the moment i walked to my seat. If you look into it no millwall fans were jailed for this,maybe a few banning orders were given out but only hull fans were sent down. what does that tell you?

    Millwall v Leeds - Play Off S/F - May 2009 - Millwall fans invade pitch and throw missiles at Leeds 'keeper Casper Ankergren

    2 fans ran onto the pitch and one chucked and a benson and edges at casper

    Now all this trouble outside Upton Park..

    You all think you're extra's from the Football Factory, small club small mentality..
    with remarks like that you should ask the sun or the voice newspaper for a job, I'm sure they would welcome you with their arms wide open
    Next you'll be saying that all liverpool fan have no jobs and wear shell suits and sport a trendy perm

    The club and its so called 'fans' have never learnt from the riot in Luton in 1985..
    Which also is a known fact that was a mix of Chelsea, Spurs and millwall even though it was a millwall match, there was loads of warning that trouble was on the cards but luton fc was to busy trying to grab every penny they could from the game and selling tickets to any tom dick or harry yet did not up the police numbers to handle the crowd
    Not many places get a write up like this..
    Where did youfind that? www.ihatemillwall.com

    What it comes down to is that every team as their "firm/firms" and due to millwalls past mainly the 70's and 80's other teams want to have a pop and make a name for theirselfs. millwall are a easy target for the press for example millwall vs brighton when the voice newspaper reporter was sent to the game and reported that millwall fans were singing "Sieg Heil" but turned out to be brighton fan supporting their team and singing "seagulls" any chance to have a dig at millwall and the press are all over it
    Do you believe everything that you read in the press ?

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    • opsmonkey
      V.I.P. Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 5379

      #17
      i take it all back.. you're all angels.. you're just victims of clever editing and a hate campaign to slur the good name of a friendly club
      Last edited by opsmonkey; 29 August, 2009, 02:11.

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      • Goodfella UK
        Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 40

        #18
        Originally posted by opsmonkey
        i take it all back.. you're all angels.. you're just victims of clever editing and a hate campaign to slur the good name of a friendly club

        Not saying that at all, just pointing out that there's always two sides to a story and not everyone that follows millwall are thugs, we have our fair share of muppets that mess it up everyone else as does most clubs.
        I'm sure the truth will come out when the fa is done looking into the west ham game

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        • aqua_life
          DK Veteran
          • Aug 2009
          • 748

          #19
          I saw what happened in the television...
          It was like a war...
          It gives a very bad image of the 2 clubs/supporters.
          I think they should pay for what they did and I hope this don?t happens again... It?s sad.

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          • Goodfella UK
            Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 40

            #20
            Well it seems question are now being put forward by the mirror newspaper of all people


            "Michael Calvin covers all angles in football's hooligan debate. He spent two weeks monitoring preparations for the Carling Cup tie between West Ham and Millwall. He was on the streets, shared the fears of the travelling fans and saw the violence spread to the stadium. He asks questions of the police and puts into ominous perspective the challenge facing the FA.

            It only takes one knife, one piece of pond life fuelled by beer, bile and the bravado of the brain dead.

            Football is closer than it dare admit to the nightmare scenario of a player being stabbed on duty.

            That thought crossed the mind of several Millwall players during the repeated pitch invasions at Upton Park. Privately, they admit to being scared. They're good pros, family men who've closed ranks.

            If any had responded to the taunts they endured, the kneejerk inquests into the return of football hooliganism would have had a sinister urgency.

            The FA has a duty to act on their behalf, to look beyond banning orders for the adrenaline-crazed kids and middle-aged buffoons who broke through an inadequate security cordon.

            West Ham United and the Metropolitan Police are trying to promote the myth they did all they could to stop trouble.

            To declare an interest, I was in and around Upton Park researching a book on Millwall. A perfect storm of arrogance, complacency and incompetence, broke around me. It was no surprise to anyone who had read the obscene, racist and barely literate ramblings of the online chat rooms. The talk there was of flashpoints along unpoliced tube lines, of "old faces, out in force".

            Desperados from Rangers and Celtic pledged to fight for Millwall and West Ham, respectively.

            Millwall believe Ken Chapman, their widely respected security advisor, was not fully consulted during the planning process. Over the last 18 years he has built up an extensive intelligence network.

            Chief Supt Steve Wisbey, in his first season as match commander at Upton Park, gave more weight to the advice of Louisa Elliston, a bureaucrat from the Football Licensing Authority.

            Touts, inevitably, profited from their decision to limit Millwall's allocation. They sold Carling Cup tickets, including laser-printed fakes, at Millwall's match at Southend on August 21.

            The home fans made The Queens pub, south of Upton Park station, the epicentre of the trouble. Incredibly, alcohol was freely available, both inside and outside the ground.

            A chant of "let's go f****g mental", from West Ham fans corralled behind a wire mesh fence adjoining the pub, was the signal for a barrage of bricks, bottles, and beer cans.

            A group of older West Ham fans, clustered outside a chicken shop on the opposite side of the road, were directing operations on what appeared to be shortwave radios.

            One officer was hit by a vodka bottle, thrown at point-blank range. He was rescued by mounted colleagues, chasing a third gang of West Ham fans away from side streets which had the air of death traps.

            The hooligans who do enduring damage to Millwall's reputation were on their way. Finding no police at East Ham tube station, they smashed the windscreen of a passing car and dragged the occupants, an Asian couple, out on to the road.

            The decent majority of Millwall fans were unprotected as they walked to the game, down Tudor Road, and through an alleyway to Priory Road, behind the ground.

            It was here a season-ticket holder was separated from his family of 10, and stabbed.
            An innocent victim in the wrong place at the wrong time.

            As his life was being saved by a paramedic, a gang of West Ham fans, armed with bottles, launched another ambush.

            It was not until just before kickoff that riot police were deployed around the away turnstiles. Inside the ground, the atmosphere was feral.

            Gianluca Nani, West Ham's director of football, urged those around him in the directors box to get to their feet when home fans sang "stand up if you hate Millwall".

            Scott Duxbury, West Ham's chief executive, wrote to Millwall, apologising for Nani's crassness, without altering the impression of a rudderless club.

            The sight of West Ham fans attacking their own stewards, who turn up for pin money, was shameful.

            I cannot see a logical reason to punish Millwall, but, at the very least, West Ham must play their next home Cup match behind closed doors.

            This would penalise Gianfranco Zola's players. But let's pause for thought.

            One day they too may find themselves in a pitch invasion, wondering if football's luck is about to run out.

            10 questions that MUST be answered

            1) Why were so few police deployed on the tube network?

            2) Why were side streets inadequately policed?

            3) Why was Ken Chapman, Millwall's Security Advisor, marginalised in the planning process?

            4) Why was alcohol so freely available?

            5) Will the FA charge Gianluca Nani with bringing the game into disrepute?

            6) Will Junior Stanislas answer incitement charges for his goal celebrations?

            7) Why did the Sports Minister fail to intervene, after being given five days notice of concerns over ticket allocations?

            8) Is the Football Licensing Authority, a government quango that costs ?1.3m per year, fit for purpose?

            9) Does West Ham have a recurring hooligan problem?

            10) Did violence follow West Ham's recent home games against Tottenham and Napoli?"

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            • Goodfella UK
              Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 40

              #21
              Oh dear oh dear guess this was Millwall fans too ?

              A 29 year old Asian man has been attacked on Green Street just outside his home.

              At 11.30 last night a man was entering his home when 4 well dressed men attacked him and beat him to the ground then viciously kicked him.
              An eye witness described the attackers as White and very well dressed.

              Police say that they are not treating this as a Racist attack but more petty revenge.

              It has come to light that the man that was attacked had filmed the mass riot outside Upton Park last Tuesday and had given an interview to Sky reporters the following day.

              A Police spokesperson went onto say that the men aged between 35 and 45 casually walked off into nearby Queens Market.
              It is believed they may live in the area and Police will be viewing CCTV in an attempt to catch the culprits

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