Yea m8 i disagree with what i said 
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THE TRUTH
The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12
Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'. -
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not so sure on that a good keeper can be ruined by a couple of mistakes especially when its highlighted and magnified by 20 times cos he is our new signingWe play De Gea it's a no brainer, he looks short on confidence and coming into a defense containing players such as Vidic and Rio must be alarming for a lad of 20. We knew all this when he signed and if worst comes to worst we have some solid backup in Lindegaard. De Gea will need a few years before he matures into a top class relaxed keeper and until then we need to stick by him. I reckon he could have himself one great performance (very capable) and then settle himself down. This is a tough time for him right now but we have the win and were off and runningwhich is important.
look at others leighton taibi richard wright had potential like de gea where is he look what happened to scott carson and paul robinson after major clangers
goalies are a bit like strikers if they get a good start they can flourish if he has another game like that he may well be destroyed and shipped back just like taibi
who tbh was a decent keeper again when he went back to italy
There is now going to be immense pressure on the lad and every move will be scrutinised opposition managers will target him as a weak link he diesnt know how to handle balls in the air they will test him every oppurtunity
if he can shrug it all off and not let it bother him great but i get the impression from his body language he is a nervous wreck and the no doubt tabloid reports will not help him one bit
its sink or swim time if he plays him if the boy has mettle and is unflustered fair do's but i tell you something now if i was hime i wouldnt be looking forward to my next game in front of 76000 people because whatever happens most of the talk pre match will be about him
on a personal note i would ease him in the reserves and let him get used to the english game i wouldnt like to see his career ruined before its started and it would give him some breathing space from the pressComment
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SAF on De Gea. "He should have done better." "Welcome to English football."
He will be fine he has SAF who will sort him out. He looks nervous but one big performance and he might settle. Lets see how he does in front of 76 thousand fans at home
as concentration is different here to at Athletico. There he would have had to have been on his toes all game but playing for Utd he see's far less action. He has made one or two fine stops, he made a cracking save just before the goal. I was just saying that should give him a bit of confidence and then he let that one pea roll past him
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Schmeical first two games when he started playing for us vs wimbledon and Leeds, he had a very hard time of it he looked very nervy and ppl were saying then he looks bad and won't be at UNITED for long..... and then look what happened!!
Yes the goal was De Gea fault and i was worried at times but my view is keep with him, He will get stronger and as long as we score more than he lets in we will still be winning so it all can't be that badComment
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Fergie also said, he could have had more protection from the ref, which I'd agree with. If ya seen the difference in the chelsea game, you couldn't look at cech but it was a free kick. That been said, it was another clanger, hope he settles down soon.SAF on De Gea. "He should have done better." "Welcome to English football."
He will be fine he has SAF who will sort him out. He looks nervous but one big performance and he might settle. Lets see how he does in front of 76 thousand fans at home as concentration is different here to at Athletico. There he would have had to have been on his toes all game but playing for Utd he see's far less action. He has made one or two fine stops, he made a cracking save just before the goal. I was just saying that should give him a bit of confidence and then he let that one pea roll past him sigpicComment
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Seems like if it wasn't for a deflected cross, Man Utd would have drew their game as well
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thanks alot friendComment
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It might have the opposite effect too
yasmin made the point fergie mentioned after the game and yes i would agree schmeichel did look a bit ropey
but he also was a very strong character a person with front and balls a person who wasnt afraid to shout his mouth or to make a mistake he was confidence in a bag
de gea looks pretty timid tbh startled bunny and headlights spring to mindComment
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Van d sar also was very ropey and made a lot of mistakes but also had a lot of brilliant games also goalies make mistakes thats football i think he will come good in the end just need time and he needs to learn english, He also needs a arm round him at the min and SAF is good at that!! De gea is a shoot stopper who needs work on other parts of his game but he has the right team behind him!! I think we will have a massive season we are strong enough at the back and upfront so i am not worried at all we score goals and if we let in one or two then we just have to score more!! Which looking at all the results over the weekend only strengthens my thoughts that we are defo more than good enough to win the EPL again.Comment
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dont remember VDS struggling when he came to OT he fitted in with ease
also these arms around keepers by SAF what happened with taibi then ??
in truth VDS and the big dane aside we have struggled with keepers
barthez,carrol,howard,bosnich,ricardo,kuzchak,ben foster and jim leighton all bought and discarded for not being good enough
im not saying de gea will not make it he may well prove to be a star what i think is he should be spared from the wolves at this time and the heat should be taken off him until he finds his way in english football and learns the lingoComment
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First off we have got de gea for the future. Playing him now is what we need, all goal keepers make mistakes even our top class one's from the past. Yes de gea has made 2 mistakes in 2 games which we still won! One game being a derby. He is going to find it hard to settle in and pick up his best form, players out their are pushing and hurting him even more because he is UTD's new keeper, the refs will have seen the replays and will soon put a stop to it.
Build him up in bulk and give him more games he will come good, SAF and all the other reports I have read about him they know when they have seen him play what a great keeper he is.
He was the 2nd keeper at Madrid and only got a start because Roberto got injured and once in, they stayed with him as their number 1 keeper.Sir Alex Ferguson in 1988
"This isn't just a job to me." "It's a mission. I am deadly serious about it. Some people would reckon too serious. We will get there, believe me. And when it happens, life will change for Liverpool and everyone else - dramatically."
Sir Alex Ferguson. 
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