Walter smith should he be knighted???

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  • mattybhoy
    DK Veteran
    • Dec 2009
    • 1046

    #46
    I hear what your saying. He did an excellent job at Celtic & Leicester. He's doing a decent job at Villa, but I wouldn't be campaigning for him to be knighted. Tactically lacking.

    My point was 'if you had to choose' between - him & 'Sir' Walter Smith for the Liverpool job?

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    • mattybhoy
      DK Veteran
      • Dec 2009
      • 1046

      #47
      Originally posted by maca58
      er walter smith has been in england and did a great job if not succsessfull job of trying to get the blue shite relagated

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      • lfc4life
        Sports Nutter
        • Dec 2008
        • 3200

        #48
        Originally posted by mattybhoy
        I hear what your saying. He did an excellent job at Celtic & Leicester. He's doing a decent job at Villa, but I wouldn't be campaigning for him to be knighted. Tactically lacking.

        My point was 'if you had to choose' between - him & 'Sir' Walter Smith for the Liverpool job?
        my god you agreeing with me???
        IM SORRY but i will never have any sympathy for maggie thatcher .... the bitch

        I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SAY MY HEART AND RESPECT GOES OUT ALL BRITISH AND ALL ARMY TROOPS FIGHTING THE TERROR WHICH STILL BREEDS IN THE WORLD!! YOU HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL HAVE MY UTMOST RESPECT !

        YNWA!!!

        JUSTICE FOR THE '96"

        "People say football is a matter of life and death. I'm disappointed by that approach, I believe it is much more important than that - Bill Shankly" -
        YNWA

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        • Bulld0g
          V.I.P. Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 7158

          #49
          Originally posted by lfc4life
          my god you agreeing with me???
          No i don't think he is m8. he's saying would you rather have O'neil or Smith as the Liverpool manager. Seeing as Smith was less than useless at Everton and O'neil has done well in England, the choice is obvious.

          THE TRUTH
          The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

          Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
          The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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          • Bulld0g
            V.I.P. Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 7158

            #50
            Originally posted by shellbob
            Walter Smith is also a fantastic manager who would be a success in England
            Are you missing the fact he has managed in England, and was sacked because he nearly got Everton relegated ?

            THE TRUTH
            The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

            Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
            The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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            • mattybhoy
              DK Veteran
              • Dec 2009
              • 1046

              #51
              Originally posted by lfc4life
              my god you agreeing with me???
              Sorry mate I wasn't, although I felt a Cameron & Clegg moment there...

              Please see Bulldog's post.

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              • lfc4life
                Sports Nutter
                • Dec 2008
                • 3200

                #52
                Originally posted by mattybhoy
                Sorry mate I wasn't, although I felt a Cameron & Clegg moment there...

                Please see Bulldog's post.
                ha ha ha ! o'neill no but mourhino yes
                IM SORRY but i will never have any sympathy for maggie thatcher .... the bitch

                I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SAY MY HEART AND RESPECT GOES OUT ALL BRITISH AND ALL ARMY TROOPS FIGHTING THE TERROR WHICH STILL BREEDS IN THE WORLD!! YOU HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL HAVE MY UTMOST RESPECT !

                YNWA!!!

                JUSTICE FOR THE '96"

                "People say football is a matter of life and death. I'm disappointed by that approach, I believe it is much more important than that - Bill Shankly" -
                YNWA

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                • davieboy.rfc
                  DK Veteran
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 667

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Bulld0g
                  No i don't think he is m8. he's saying would you rather have O'neil or Smith as the Liverpool manager. Seeing as Smith was less than useless at Everton and O'neil has done well in England, the choice is obvious.
                  oniel has had plenty of money 2 spend were smith did not at everton u cant compare them

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                  • boomer39
                    DK Veteran
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2818

                    #54
                    Originally posted by davieboy.rfc


                    oniel has had plenty of money 2 spend were smith did not at everton u cant compare them
                    about as much as david moyes???
                    YNWA..

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                    • davieboy.rfc
                      DK Veteran
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 667

                      #55
                      cmon boomer moyes has had much more money than smith ever did...

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                      • mattybhoy
                        DK Veteran
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1046

                        #56
                        Originally posted by davieboy.rfc

                        oniel has had plenty of money 2 spend were smith did not at everton u cant compare them
                        He had nothing at Leicester & won there first trophy in how many yrs? & got them to respectability in the EPL.

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                        • mattybhoy
                          DK Veteran
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 1046

                          #57
                          Originally posted by lfc4life
                          ha ha ha ! o'neill no but mourhino yes
                          You've still not answered the question.. So you would have Smith infront of O'neil for the Liverpool job?

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                          • davieboy.rfc
                            DK Veteran
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 667

                            #58
                            Originally posted by mattybhoy
                            He had nothing at Leicester & won there first trophy in how many yrs? & got them to respectability in the EPL.
                            peter houston won the cup yesterday does that make him a great manager & got utd respesctibility in the league c were im going with this mattyboy,oneil at astonvilla had loads of doe smith at everton had about a fiver to spend no comparison..

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                            • mattybhoy
                              DK Veteran
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1046

                              #59
                              No don't see where you're going.

                              Look back at the posts & you will see that the question is not about O'neil being great.

                              LFC4life stated that one of the reasons why Smith sould be a 'sir' is that he's 'seen off' many a Celtic manager? I didn't think that was relevant, so I stated that O'neil has seen off Rangers managers (in only 5 yrs in charge) - so should he be knighted aswell!?

                              Then I posed the question, if Smith is that great surely the big clubs in the EPL would be looking at him? & asked Liverpool fans in particular, given the choice would you go for O'neil or 'Sir' Walt?
                              Last edited by mattybhoy; 16 May, 2010, 23:58.

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                              • thered
                                V.I.P. Member
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 4915

                                #60
                                Originally posted by mattybhoy
                                I think you've got confused or you just don't know your stuff.

                                Because it was done in last 20 yrs it doesn't matter??? There's many on here including me who can't stand Fergie, but you can not argue with what he's done in the last 20 odd yrs, both with Aberdeen & Man U. He's been given a knighthood - fair enough, but if he's getting one so should have Bob Paisley, Jock Stein & Brian Clough.

                                As for Smith having "not much to work with". As I've already stated, that's for 2 out of 9 titles in Scotland. The other 7 (which my maths tells me it's the most??) his titles were bank rolled - though I'm not saying that it's that easy. If you can't remember the mid 80's - 90's fair enough, but at least do a wee bit of research. Rangers were spending as much if not more money in that time than any other British club. "Not much to work with!!!"

                                & Smith's great job he did at Everton nearly taking them down...Look what happened to him when he left a 2 team league?

                                Bob Paisley, Jock Stein, Brian Clough...'Sir'Walter Smith????? Your man is not in the same league, simple as that.
                                now im not getting into a debate about who should and who shouldnt be knighted and paisly,stein and clough have all done great things and maybe deserve a knighthood but to say that if ferguson has got one so they should is off the mark for me

                                for a start ferguson has had success domestically and in europe with 2 sides not just one like the rest of these.

                                stein won nothing else apart from a cup with dunfermline his only accompishments were with celtic who are more or less guaranteed at least second every year

                                paisly liverpools most succesful manager probably of the 3 mentioned deserves a knighthood more then most but he only managed and had success at one club and inherited his side from shankly it didnt need building

                                clough remarkable what he did at forest and derby in the beginning he failed miserably at leeds and took forest down eventually he ruined himself and his reputation by staying on too long

                                only ferguson has had continued success at two clubs aberdeen and united his stint at aberdeen was made more remarkable that he won something by not managing rangers or celtic and is STILL the last manager to win the league in scotland that wasnt from rangers and celtic

                                he then made manchester united all be it after a shaky start the dominant force of english football and is the most succesful manager in british football

                                nobody gets close to fergusons trophy cabinet not busby,stein,shankly clough or paisly so how do you compare him

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