Walter smith should he be knighted???

[boomer39]

I tell ya what. There's not been many good Scottish keepers , but how many good Scottish or even Glaswegians has there been!?

Paisley, Shankly, Stein, Busby, Ferguson...'Sir' Walter..

er, sir bob... a sweaty?? no way renee....
keepers? any one remember the flying pig? or tommy younger or bert slater?????

[mattybhoy]

Ha ha..Apologise I got carried away with Paisley.. Though it's in Scotland!

[wongers]

in answer to your original question (as usual we've gone all around the houses)personally i'd have martin o'neill he's proved himself in the prem but this doesn't make him a top manager and anyway, we couldn't have smith him being a blueshite reject.

[Bulld0g]

now im not getting into a debate about who should and who shouldnt be knighted and paisly,stein and clough have all done great things and maybe deserve a knighthood but to say that if ferguson has got one so they should is off the mark for me

for a start ferguson has had success domestically and in europe with 2 sides not just one like the rest of these.

stein won nothing else apart from a cup with dunfermline his only accompishments were with celtic who are more or less guaranteed at least second every year

paisly liverpools most succesful manager probably of the 3 mentioned deserves a knighthood more then most but he only managed and had success at one club and inherited his side from shankly it didnt need building

clough remarkable what he did at forest and derby in the beginning he failed miserably at leeds and took forest down eventually he ruined himself and his reputation by staying on too long

only ferguson has had continued success at two clubs aberdeen and united his stint at aberdeen was made more remarkable that he won something by not managing rangers or celtic and is STILL the last manager to win the league in scotland that wasnt from rangers and celtic

he then made manchester united all be it after a shaky start the dominant force of english football and is the most succesful manager in british football

nobody gets close to fergusons trophy cabinet not busby,stein,shankly clough or paisly so how do you compare him

Sir Bob was manager for Nine years in that time he won.Three European cups. Seven titles One Fa cup, One Uefa cup, Two supercups, and Three Leagucups. As well as winning the Manager of the year Six of his Nine years.Nobody gets close ? The reason he only managed one club was because he was at that club for Forty four years.
Not being biased here but his achievements outweigh anyones in the short space of time he achieved them.

[cloudnineuk54]

can i just ask,if he managed for 9 years,but was at the club for forty years,what did he do in in the rest of that time,player? maybe a stupid thing to ask but id like to know,and yes your right in nine years that achievment is remarkable

[boomer39]

can i just ask,if he managed for 9 years,but was at the club for forty years,what did he do in in the rest of that time,player? maybe a stupid thing to ask but id like to know,and yes your right in nine years that achievment is remarkable

player, sponge man, trainer, coach, assistant manager...the full monty... a true football legend...

[thered]

Sir Bob was manager for Nine years in that time he won.Three European cups. Seven titles One Fa cup, One Uefa cup, Two supercups, and Three Leagucups. As well as winning the Manager of the year Six of his Nine years.Nobody gets close ? The reason he only managed one club was because he was at that club for Forty four years.
Not being biased here but his achievements outweigh anyones in the short space of time he achieved them.

not knocking paisly,clough or anyone else here what they have all done is amazing

but he inherited probably the best team in the country at the time it was half done already although he had more success than shankly shankly was the one who built the club

on terms of trophys to seasons ratio he is the greatest manager in english football history no question

but can you judge a career on only 9 years and ratio of trophys won when the groundwork was done for him

if so is tommy taylor englands greatest striker after he scored 16 goals in 19 games before munich

or do you need to look over a career to judge his standing i think the latter and thats why ferguson IMO is at the top in my book,if 9 years is a career in management he's wasted a lot of time doing nothing

[The Yeti]

Have a look at his record in competitions other than those run by the corrupt officials up in scotland - his Euorpean record is 'particularly' impressive.

[boomer39]

@ thered.
understand what you mean, i would not, could not underestimate what he has done for you. but also by your reasoning, your club was built by your manager. do you forget what sir matt did for you? another true legend...
heres one more for you... bobby charlton or george best. if you had to choose to knight , who would you pick( prior to bobby being knighted, that is)???

[thered]

@ thered.
understand what you mean, i would not, could not underestimate what he has done for you. but also by your reasoning, your club was built by your manager. do you forget what sir matt did for you? another true legend...
heres one more for you... bobby charlton or george best. if you had to choose to knight , who would you pick( prior to bobby being knighted, that is)???

not saying ferguson built the club matt busby made united what it is today and what happened in 58 although a tragedy galvanised the club and made it argueably the biggest club in the country

alex ferguson merely awoke it again after 26 years of slumber and an odd cup run and then took it too a different level of domination that busby couldnt even muster in fact only yourselves in england have known domination like it

the only difference for me is ferguson done it himself shankly did a lot of paislys work for him followed by fagan then dalglish a sustained spell of greatness for LFC but management was shared

if paisly had started as manager instead of shankly and then had the same success as himself and shankly combined i would have to concede that paisly had the better record of the 2 without question

as for knighthoods for others best and charlton were before my time but i can see why one was knighted and not the other denis law would maybe deserve a shout i dont know what the criteria is for a knighthood but i can see sometimes why people do get overlooked

and as i said earlier im not saying that paisly,shankly,stein,clough,herbert chapman,bill nicholson or anyone else shouldnt be knighted they probably deserve a shout but i just think that fergusons record is better so you cant really compare him getting a knighthod to anyone else

but thats just my opinion rightly or wrongly that the person who wins the most trophys in there career has got to be the best manager about

[koppit]

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god knows how he would of coped if he had to buy a player himself

[mattybhoy]

All this talk about these so called legends...Paisley, Busby, Fergie, Clough, Stein, Shankly...tut!

What about 'Sir' Walt!!!???? "He's dedicated his life to football!!!" Looney tunes....

[boomer39]

again @thered..
what about alf ramsey??? 3 trophies!!! sir??? so things dont add up....
was steve "the dutchman" mcclaren not an assistant? or brian kidd??
btw, i do not disagree that he has been the greatest manager in england and deserves to be "sir taggart" but so did "sir bob" without a doubt.....

[lfc4life]

good to see we are have constructive discussion without getting nasty!

[thered]

good to see we are have constructive discussion without getting nasty!

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