freemasons taking over the world

[thered]

im not basing anything on kids films, thats wat they are doin brainwashing your kids and you

surely i use the internet for my facts, but not the ones shoved in my face by the news and government

there is still free speech on the net but not for long

take the film Matrix, just a film?

mate your are plugged in2 their system, and the peoople plugged in2 the system will fight 2 protect it

in the film, who invented the matrix? The Great/Grand Architect?

what does the G in the masonic symbol stand for?

@nara

i garantee i have more friends than you,
what qualifications have you got?
maybe you need to get out abit more in2 the real world rather than let the TV tell you whats going on

sorry ok matrix is a 15 cert

nah sorry i couldnt resist but to base your arguements on fictional films is bizarre can they also dodge bullets these masons

as are the masonic symbols what do they honestly proove are all man utd fans devil worshippers or did they used to be pirates after all there is a devil and a ship on the badge

just because there is a film about something or a picture or a carving or a statue doesnt mean its a symbol or a clue to a secret world

and i dont know why people insist on throwing these theories together

[racin-snake]

we dont they all overlap ..
and now your now beginning to make it absurd ..man u fans are not anything of the sort

i am not advocating they or anyone is devil worshipping
never have never will ..till proven correct based on fact

i base none of what i deem as fact from any film or any fictitious
source

but will continue to believe based on fact corruption and secret societies go hand in hand

you also suggest that there is nowt to worry about nowt going on?

wrong in so many variables ..

you aint even bothered to look why we buy in dollars and trade in this currency too

i may in fact find i have nowt to worry about either
till then i will look and search for the full story ...

if you are looking for answers look yourself
the facts are out there
the only thing i do say is look for yourself
make a conclusion based on your findings
no agenda just educate yourself and then see where it takes you

your asking the right questions here ..i cannot answer some as they are my deductions thus imposing my findings on you
i suggest its now time to seek your own answer your own way

good luck mate ...

[z786]

i dont mind mate, atleast i make you happy when you laugh at my posts, i'l jus leav u 2 make up your own mind, these films i use are jus an easier way to explain 2 u but obviosly u dont get the point

mayb 1 day it'l come across to you

[flyingpig]

Using the film with Nic Cage is a bit outrageous though.. As I said earlier, go and find out for yoursefl, go and join a local lodge, and get your own ideas.... You will see you are wrong.

Rather then rely on the films. Its like me watching the Buddy Holly story and not realising that there is poetic license in there.

[racin-snake]

no thank you

[thered]

we dont they all overlap ..
and now your now beginning to make it absurd ..man u fans are not anything of the sort

i am not advocating they or anyone is devil worshipping
never have never will ..till proven correct based on fact

i base none of what i deem as fact from any film or any fictitious
source

but will continue to believe based on fact corruption and secret societies go hand in hand

you also suggest that there is nowt to worry about nowt going on?

wrong in so many variables ..

you aint even bothered to look why we buy in dollars and trade in this currency too

i may in fact find i have nowt to worry about either
till then i will look and search for the full story ...

if you are looking for answers look yourself
the facts are out there
the only thing i do say is look for yourself
make a conclusion based on your findings
no agenda just educate yourself and then see where it takes you

your asking the right questions here ..i cannot answer some as they are my deductions thus imposing my findings on you
i suggest its now time to seek your own answer your own way

good luck mate ...

they overlap because you make them overlap not evrything in life is a jigsaw puzzle


i have read books,scored internet and watched loads of films on youtube ect and a few things on tv i am not convinced one bit


its mainly based on symbols and someones ideas on what they mean and why they are linked and bloodlines ect controling the world behind the scenes a theory in other words


but when things dont fit the edges are bitten off and they are forced into place the 20 different generations of bloodline arnt needed until the correct match comes along,

look at obama before the election he wasnt part of the so called "masterplan" they all said the he started to walk it and it all swung around now he's a mason an immigrant and he's related to other presidents keeping the conspiracy alive


conspiracy takes what it wants and ignores the rest it just keeps changing the goalposts to suit

[racin-snake]

jigsaw... great analogy ..
do you see repeated paterns in world affairs ?
do you see countries taken down by other countries ?
do all these affect us
all peices of a big jigsaw ....
also you are the one who has taken parts from everything
i asked a few questions
you covered one of these

so who takes bits and disgards the rest ?
i have looked at all the information (time limits the fuller investigation)
everyone has posted here
i have no real anecdotes bar the ones stated
i do not try to convince anyone of anything
read my posts and you will see that
i have asked questions never isinuating you believe me or giving anything as a doctrine
look and learn watch and read are all i advocate
have a look. i do not want to convince or coerse anyone
ime merely stating the intention of look before you buy into anything

no outlandish or religios theories ....just looking for the facts and as there are gaps i will look further
nowt intended to make anyone do anything exept look read and come to your own conclusion
but on the other hand
i forgot to say
its never ending .......every question opens another set of questions
so creating knowlege whether it be right wrong or indiferent
if you know the sides from all angles then
you can then argue the facts that you glean
did you see i have thanked the people posting for input i have deemed viable
and not the ones i deem to be a bit of a hit or miss
you could say thats my take on things ...
or you could say its like you claim ?
i take what i think is correct and not what i dont want to hear ?

its up to you to think and not to impose
and when you state something be prepared to hear their argument out
in simplicity
read and try to understand everything and what you dont understand you research
others play computer games and some get on doing other things
i like looking at the theories and looking for the facts
and the good thing is if we can listen to each others theories and so on
its enlightning and understands and compliments free thought
i may not agree with what they have to say but i like to think if i can comprehend it i have a better chance of findintg the
facts ......
no conspiracy agenda here ...just learning ......
humour and ridiculing is not a good way of conducting a debate its showing your more biased in one direction IMHO

[thered]

jigsaw... great analogy ..
do you see repeated paterns in world affairs ?
do you see countries taken down by other countries ?
do all these affect us
all peices of a big jigsaw ....
also you are the one who has taken parts from everything
i asked a few questions
you covered one of these

so who takes bits and disgards the rest ?
i have looked at all the information (time limits the fuller investigation)
everyone has posted here
i have no real anecdotes bar the ones stated
i do not try to convince anyone of anything
read my posts and you will see that
i have asked questions never isinuating you believe me or giving anything as a doctrine
look and learn watch and read are all i advocate
have a look. i do not want to convince or coerse anyone
ime merely stating the intention of look before you buy into anything

no outlandish or religios theories ....just looking for the facts and as there are gaps i will look further
nowt intended to make anyone do anything exept look read and come to your own conclusion
but on the other hand
i forgot to say
its never ending .......every question opens another set of questions
so creating knowlege whether it be right wrong or indiferent
if you know the sides from all angles then
you can then argue the facts that you glean
did you see i have thanked the people posting for input i have deemed viable
and not the ones i deem to be a bit of a hit or miss
you could say thats my take on things ...
or you could say its like you claim ?
i take what i think is correct and not what i dont want to hear ?

its up to you to think and not to impose
and when you state something be prepared to hear their argument out
in simplicity
read and try to understand verything and what you dont understand you research
others play computer games and some get on doing other things
i like looking at the theories and looking for the facts
and the good thing is if we can listen to each others theories and so on
its enlightning and understands and compliments free thought
i may not agree with what they have to say but i like to think if i can comprehend it i have a better chance of findintg the
facts ......
no conspiracy agenda here ...just learning ......
humour and ridiculing is not a good way of conducting a debate its showing your more biased in one direction IMHO

thing is i do find it interesting but as of yet i have still found very little substance to any of it


all i have is that there are a few links between things and the gaps are filled in by imaginations and theorys


they start wars they end wars they own the banks they protect israel they even stop electric cars ect ect


there is always a hidden agenda somewhere in reality the world cant be full of hidden agendas all the time some have to be wrong somewhere

if these wars are money making machines for instance why dont we have the full world at war again?

because what we are involved in at the minute is just loose pocket change compared to an all out battle


and by the way who does own these banks ?


and can i have a link please

[racin-snake]

1 source make up your own mind WHO OWNS THE FEDERAL RESERVE?
2=http://www.apfn.org/APFN/fed_reserve.htm
3=http://www.usagold.com/federalreserve.htm
there are thousands more ...go on have a dig around

you might get a new piece for your jigsaw
or get a bit of fodder for thought ?
big subject for your first outing but what the hell have fun
but just remember ..if someone's trying to sell ya something are they gonna tell ya the yin or the yang ?

your call now mate ....enjoy

[flyingpig]

THe masons have taken over the I Fone as well, have a look at the 'App' Icon... It is code for the call of the masons as it is a dead ringer for the masonic emblem... They monitor your downloads, and it reports direct to each lodge what eveybody within their areas are downloading.

[thered]

THe masons have taken over the I Fone as well, have a look at the 'App' Icon... It is code for the call of the masons as it is a dead ringer for the masonic emblem... They monitor your downloads, and it reports direct to each lodge what eveybody within their areas are downloading.

they are into everything the little buggers

[z786]

the masons believ in the all seing eye = i
i phone
i pad
i book

and whats the logo?
The apple of temptation
given to adam n eve

yes, they are into evrything

[flyingpig]

Haha --- Now you are winding us up... ol

[z786]

Haha --- Now you are winding us up... ol

this is the co founder of apple inc.

Steve Wozniak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

go to section "personal life"
3rd paragraph

tell me what you see?

[flyingpig]

Yes, it alleges that he is a mason...But it also says he finished working for Apple in 1987...

There is a Wiki page that says I have slept with women such as Rachel Hunter and had the 6 spice girls in the pernthous at the Ritz hotel in London all in the same night.