Do you believe in god

[sweto]

yes yes yes
i believe God
yes yes yes

[racin-snake]

maybe a point for another thread the red

but i see your still are pretty ignorant of what can be achieved if certain concerns are not involving other financial interests

you really need to look at facts more than assumptions mate
many drug company's can and have a vested interest in remedies for symptoms of certain illnesses
so future research will be halted due to medications that alleviate symptoms
to be frank why spend money curing a thing when they make billions a year controlling drugs to help symptoms ?
who supplies the market with beechams powders and paracetamol and other cold remedies ?

the same company's that would be undertaking the development of vaccines ?

they dont give a flying ~~~~ of how many doctors hours wasted mate not in your wildest dreams have any company in this world ever put the priority on anything but profit

its not what the shareholders want mate
i think you need to wake up and realise that your comfy idealogical world with the nhs and the other stuff you seem to think is all there for us we should be thankful ......

for greed and profit surpass these in every day business
if there iant profit it aint getting done simples

have a look for some figures for costs and so on of cold remedy's and cold medication and think if they cure that they've lost a lot more than an immunisation programs worth

i think you need to see the facts before spouting your nonsense matey ....you are nieve or just simply totally misinformed

[thered]

maybe a point for another thread the red

but i see your still are pretty ignorant of what can be achieved if certain concerns are not involving other financial interests

you really need to look at facts more than assumptions mate
many drug company's can and have a vested interest in remedies for symptoms of certain illnesses
so future research will be halted due to medications that alleviate symptoms
to be frank why spend money curing a thing when they make billions a year controlling drugs to help symptoms ?
who supplies the market with beechams powders and paracetamol and other cold remedies ?

the same company's that would be undertaking the development of vaccines ?

they dont give a flying ~~~~ of how many doctors hours wasted mate not in your wildest dreams have any company in this world ever put the priority on anything but profit

its not what the shareholders want mate
i think you need to wake up and realise that your comfy idealogical world with the nhs and the other stuff you seem to think is all there for us we should be thankful ......

for greed and profit surpass these in every day business
if there iant profit it aint getting done simples

have a look for some figures for costs and so on of cold remedy's and cold medication and think if they cure that they've lost a lot more than an immunisation programs worth

i think you need to see the facts before spouting your nonsense matey ....you are nieve or just simply totally misinformed

these are my opinions and are my own

who uses these treatments you talk about i would gues at 20% of sufferers

if there was an immunisation for colds and flu the whole population would get it an the every generation of kids and so on and so on

so wher is con?

also on a different note if there was a cure and immunisation for a cold and we were all told to go and get it i wonder what would happen?

and you know this is true

everyone would start saying they are poisioning us or similar with these drugs they want us to take

you cant win with the conspiracy lot the goalposts just get moved

[racin-snake]

conspiracy lot ?

nope mate don't think so
if you look you will see the data for costs incurred and costs gleaned by drug company's

and there are flu immunisations .. didn't you know ?

have a look at what the numbers and profits say and you will see that 20% is way out so far it would make your head spin
do not ever assume cos you don't take anything for a cold no one else does ?
that's just ludicrous
for instance how many cold drugs and remedies can you name off the cuff ?
and thats part of your answer
start a new thread and ile help ya see where it goes

but as always it comes down to one thing and that is MONEY
and most if not all drug company's spend more on adversing than research that's fair too huh ?

have a look mate you did it before look at the company's profit margin for cold and flu meds and look at the real picture
don't assume everything is for the greater good of mankind mate
it never will be period
as for goalposts they stay the same mate just different spin on the actual facts

why make anything if it is gonna dry up your cash supply ?

[diagnoza_auto2000]

I belive,and always i belive dosen mether what will happen

[Grizz]

A poll would be really interesting on this, to see if DKers fall along the 95/5% of believers/atheists if TheJackal (OP) could add one. i'd hazard a guess at 65/35

[radiomaniack]

It is undeed a very important question...And YES, i do believe in God,and i will always believe so no matter what.

[cantona7]

any god that allows children to be born with a heart defect or cancer is not a god i want to believe in , or the children in the world like poor baby p who live a miserable life until some evil bassad ends it for them.

if hypethetically i was god this would not happen as i live my life through moral values based on so called ten comandments that as far as i believe come from cleverish people 3000 ish years ago to keep the rabble from raping and killing each other, but i do believe the bible is nothing but a good work of fiction and nowt else as other wise this so called god (whatever name your religeon calls him)would not allow children to be raped , beaten , killed or born with medical defects as this goes against EVERY moral fibre that we all believe in

end of rant

FOR NOW

[barrowmanandrew]

A poll would be really interesting on this, to see if DKers fall along the 95/5% of believers/atheists if TheJackal (OP) could add one. i'd hazard a guess at 65/35

wow, what a stat........

i am surprised at that,
i thought there would be far more non belivers...

p.s.
if there is a god, what the ~~~~ does he/she do all day...?

[bazare]

Yes I also believe there is some kind of GOD / FORCE. Darvinism can't explain everything.

[Grizz]

wow, what a stat........
i am surprised at that,
i thought there would be far more non belivers...
p.s.
if there is a god, what the ~~~~ does he/she do all day...?

the figure varies according to source, but like you i reckon its higher in reality. there are a lot of people out there who are afraid to say they are atheist due to social reasons and maybe some lingering thoughts of the "fires of hell". i was speaking to a barmaid last year and religion came into conversation. my mate believed, she said she did, i didnt, and she asked me How can you say you dont think there is a God? what if you are wrong? finally she told me she thought i was right but was afraid to say it out loud, "just in case"

[barrowmanandrew]

the figure varies according to source like you but i reckon its higher in reality. there are a lot of people out there who are afraid to say they are atheist due to social reasons and maybe some lingering thoughts of the "fires of hell". i was speaking to a barmaid last year and religion came into conversation. my mate believed, she said she did, i didnt, and she asked me How can you say you dont think there is a God? what if you are wrong? finally she told me she thought i was right but was afraid to say it out loud, "just in case"

yep,
think it would be interesting to see a poll.
i think it would be nearer 50/50 on here......

[Grizz]

thejackal hasnt posted since September, maybe a mod could oblige if not too busy?

[StormBringa]

For myself, I can say that some time to time, strange things just happened... to learn you something or punish you...

but ....


"God" is defined in every books concerning himself as THE guy...
He's supposed to be perfect... "les voix du seigneur sont imp?n?trables" as they said it in french...

Concerning MY judgement... "God" (if he really exist as such) is a HUGE narcisic person... why ???

because :

- You beleive in him, WHATEVER you did in your life, at the moment you asking absolution, you are forgiven and admited to heaven... (exept suicide or any capital sin...)

my understand : you're worshiping him = its ok you can stay

- Suicide : I worked with some sexual assault victims (my ex-GF was one of them...)... a lot of them (male as female) decided to "quit" due to their experiences and mostly after the legal procedure (a lot of them are just not listened by justice because they need prouvs...) and this persons lived a horrible life all the way and not because of themselves, and its just going to continue in the afterlife because they just tried to run from their misery...

only for that, if he really exist, I will smash him in the face with all my strengh...

- You are NOT beleive in him : you're going to hell




I don't know for you... but when someone think I'm not who I am or just don't beleive I can do or make something, I don't want the worse thing for him... and the only thing "God" will get with me if he really exist, is a huge enemy if he's as describe in the books...

[maca]

the only god i worship is me dad you'll never meet a better bloke always there to help out and never gives anyone a bad word. and i can prove this