has anyone updated the dashboard yet

[samlen27]

has anyone updated the dashboard yet as it out and i dont really want to be banned.ive heard to wait for lt+ whens that to be released?

[djjwdubz]

we was told not to mate. don't do it yet.

[andy1weir]

me and a few m8's have done it and theres no ban so far

[djjwdubz]

me and a few m8's have done it and theres no ban so far

my brother has too but, i think he plugged out the net. have you put fable 3 in ya drive and cod7 yet?

[HoTTDubbER]

it maybe safe to update but do not play or try n play any new titles u will get flagged for banning! plus they wont boot anyway just flag you (unless you have a samsung drive)

Dont use COD Black ops or Fable 3 untill FW has been updated !

not confirmed safe as a ban is never instant!

[djjwdubz]

i think, why update if you can't play new games. there ain't no point if you update cuz you can't play new games.

[HoTTDubbER]

i think, why update if you can't play new games. there ain't no point if you update cuz you can't play new games.

well thats my inital thinking but im not gonna touch any new games till fw comes out anyway i just hope fifa 11 doesn't contain ap25 as thats all i play online waiting for more info myself

[HoTTDubbER]

xbox scene are warning everyone against it tho

X-S Note: With the confirmation from C4E that the latest beta fall2010 dashboard has new AP2.5 checks and SSv3 with new games, we 'suggest' anyone with a modified FW stay away from the update and these new games (Fable3, ...) for now if you don't want to be part of the 'MS November 2010 BanHammer'
JTAG 360s (do I need to remind this?) should of course also not update, it will break the JTAG/SMC hack forever. You will have to wait for a new rebooter (freeBOOT/XBReboot).

as bans are never instant so we dont even know if its safe yet

[djjwdubz]

i was told LT+ will not be here till 2011. thats ****ed up big time.

[HoTTDubbER]

same story as last year

i wanna know what hitachis are safe!!!

as i have a 59 and all every1 says some old hits

no1 mention's models

[janobi]

FIFA and cod are both fine on nee dashboard. It's only fable that causes you to get flagged.


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[jims]

I have just tryed Fist.of.the.North.Star.Kens.Rage
it did not boot.
suppose this means i have been flagged for a ban

I have used XVal_v2.0 to dectryp Xvalue

decrypted X Value 000000000000
result Secdata is Clean

[Andy1988]

yeah dont update anymore if you dont want banned from xbox live

[HoTTDubbER]

there not changing sec data ive not seen 1 person on new dash that has anything other than sec clean

the beta dash displayed failed ap25 challenge everytime someone tried to boot fable 3 and failed

somthing tells me there keeping that info for themselfs so u dont take ur box offline ready for when the bans come!

[chroma]

The new update does not ban you, it merely enables logging of AP2.5 checks on DVD-XGD2.5 disks (any disk produced after october 2008)

Disk checks up till now have been conducted by the DVD-Drive, the drive asks for a check on portions of the SS and returns a value, if the two dont compare the disk refuses to boot.
Hacked firmware keeps a table of these checks and because it knows the question being asked it can give the corresponding correct answer. This allows you to boot up pirated... ahem "backup" disks.

The new update does away with this system, it now sets up a system where the 360 itself sends an encrypted question to the DVD drive and asks for the correct answer, 5 questions in a row all AES encrypted, apparently just to make sure.
certain hitachis and sammys dont have the capability to respond so the entire AP2.5 check is bypassed because the NAND knows which drive is installed (hence the reason you cant spoof the drive, the 360 will think the spoofed drive is capable of returning an LBA check when in fact its not got the hardware to back that up)

The problem is that all microsoft needs to do is issue a game update for any game they want from 2008 onwards and it activates these checks resulting in the disk refusing to authenticate, you slap in bad company 2 for instance and notice that it says it needs to update the game only to realise its just enabled the AP2.5 check and wham your disk refuses to boot, your sec data gets logged and you sit on the nice little list of candadates for the next wave.

As for when the wave is comming? well if i was microsoft id hold fire untill kinect sales begin to dwindle, then press the button, i mean anyone whos just threw down coin for a new peripheral is going to want to get a new box as soon as possable in order to play it.

Rest assured if youve updated you will be banned, if you havnt then you should be in the clear untill LT+ comes out and a known list of disks eventualy begins to surface.