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[cresad67]

HI

Biostar MCP6P M2+ motherboard
AMD Athlon 7750 Dual-core processor
and 2.87 ( 3 ) GB ram
Windows XP pro + sp3
Avast antivirus + malaware

The problem I'm having is , when you start up the pc it doesn't even get to the black screen with the windows logo and the blue bar before it goes to a blue screen and say's - a file is corrupt of missing = windows\system32\config\system.

History - I've been having some problems for a while that was writen here http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...oblems-172908/ and I'm not entirly sure it's not connected.

I reset the bios then did a full erase of my hard drive and reloaded my windows xp pro with some of the things I'd been using before on saturday and used it ok on sat evening. Sunday turned it on to find the problem above , so I re-wiped the hard drive and tried again ( thinking it might be me ) sunday evening it was fine did some scanning - photos. Monday , it did the same thing , with the same blue screen.

Ran my windows disc to do a repair , got onto the dos files / page ran chkdsk - nothing found - started windows again and it ran normally.

Can someone help to sort this out as I'm not entirly sure what I'm doing . I can put them together and sort ' normal ' things but this is a bit wierd.

Thanks
Adam

[dasteph]

HI

Biostar MCP6P M2+ motherboard
AMD Athlon 7750 Dual-core processor
and 2.87 ( 3 ) GB ram
Windows XP pro + sp3
Avast antivirus + malaware

The problem I'm having is , when you start up the pc it doesn't even get to the black screen with the windows logo and the blue bar before it goes to a blue screen and say's - a file is corrupt of missing = windows\system32\config\system.

History - I've been having some problems for a while that was writen here http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...oblems-172908/ and I'm not entirly sure it's not connected.

I reset the bios then did a full erase of my hard drive and reloaded my windows xp pro with some of the things I'd been using before on saturday and used it ok on sat evening. Sunday turned it on to find the problem above , so I re-wiped the hard drive and tried again ( thinking it might be me ) sunday evening it was fine did some scanning - photos. Monday , it did the same thing , with the same blue screen.

Ran my windows disc to do a repair , got onto the dos files / page ran chkdsk - nothing found - started windows again and it ran normally.

Can someone help to sort this out as I'm not entirly sure what I'm doing . I can put them together and sort ' normal ' things but this is a bit wierd.

Thanks
Adam

the following link is to a microsoft article regarding the repair of a corrupt registry which prevents xp from loading which you could try, but the easiest solution you could try would be to reload xp with a different installation disc than the one you are at presently using which may have been corrupted giving you the repeated error.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545

[spondulick]

cresad, do as daseph says i had same prob loading windows about 6 mth ago windows disc was knackered system 32 file missing, found out acouple of days later after trying to load ubuntu, linux gave an error could not load system because failed to read disk....in my case my burner was ~~~~ed but could be one or the other.

[cresad67]

Yea , I did wonder about the cd drive but I have a dvd drive as well and used that the second time around with the same result.

I have got another windows disc so I'll see how things go.

Adam

[cunny]

Try changin the hdd lead. Then you say you did a chkdsk ? try a chkdsk with the following switches chkdsk /f or /r


If that fails, then consider a re format

[cresad67]

Hi all

A bit of an update , I got fed up with it taking 3 or 4 restarts before it would run close enough that I reformated ( this time ) the drive and reinstalled windows yet again. It seemed to run ok to start with until I started putting other stuff ( scanner , printer , etc ) back on now its back to doing the same and taking several starts before it'll run and somethings are coming up with errors - not always the same.Also started to suddenly restart in the middle of things for no apparent reason.

Can anyone help with this or am I looking at a new Harddrive ? Really starting to wind me ( and the missus ) up.

Thanks , Adam

[cunny]

Does it give a quick blue screen then reboot? Did you try changing the HDD lead as suggested?

If its giving off a blue screen with an error code, were gonna need the error code, it will say something like stop: 0x0000

To do this, goto system properties/advanced/startup and recovery an take the tick out of automatically restart. Then write the code down and post it for us.

[unclex0r]

yes try get the error code for us, also in the meantime, have a look for a Hiren Boot CD, do a MEM test as well.

If you are not re-importing your old registry or something like that after the reinstall, then your problem can only be hardware.

Does it give a quick blue screen then reboot? Did you try changing the HDD lead as suggested?

If its giving off a blue screen with an error code, were gonna need the error code, it will say something like stop: 0x0000

To do this, goto system properties/advanced/startup and recovery an take the tick out of automatically restart. Then write the code down and post it for us.

[Hairlocks]

Definitely sounds like a RAM failure to me. especially if the blue screens codes vary You can also find the codes in the event viewer. The memtest86 CD is a very small download.
Another option is to check the hard disk with the manufactures checking tools.

[cresad67]

Hi

Right error codes on start up - 3 so far ( in the last 2 days ) not including the boxes that popup saying generic host failier , aol system , corrupt or missing ... ( had all these as well )

1 - stop : 0xoooooo8E , ( 0xC0000005 , 0xBF844B31 , 0xB49B5B7C , 0x00000000 )WIN32K.SYS
2 - stop : 0x000000C2 ( 0x00000007 , 0x00000CD4 , 0xE2B5AFA8 , 0xE20379A8 ) BAD_POOL_CALLER
3 - stop : 0x0000004E ( 0x00000099 , 0x00000000 , 0x00000001 , 0x00000000 ) PFN_LIST_CORRUPT

I havn't managed to change the HDD cable yet , will try but don't think that's the problem ( it's fairly new round plastic rather than grey ribbon )

I downloaded and ran memtest86 , not exactly sure how to read this but itdoes show errors in some of the lines eg.
Error confidence value : 140
Highest erro address : 00057c9ff88 1404.9 mb
and errors per memory slot was going through the roof

I guess this is related as well - some of my programs are either not running or start but keep crashing now.

Looking at the ram in system properties shows 2.87gb instead of the 3gb thats installed. Does this all point to the ram failing or something else ?

Thanks , Adam

[cunny]

How is your ram configured? Start to remove 1 dimm at a time then running ram test on them 1 dimm at a time

[ictman]

when u got blue screen, there's so many causes for this problem, first is the OS, may be the RAM card or hDD, look in your bios if there any option to test HDD or Memory, or try to boot with hiren's boot cd, there's a lot of tools for testing hardware

[Itsme]

Just a suggestion but this could well be a CPU overheating problem.

A quick browse on the net regarding board and cpu specs show that the board supports a cpu maximum wattage of 95W and your processor is designed to run at a max of 95W.

It is essential that the heat sinking between the cpu and fan is as efficient as possible and that the cpu fan is capable of providing enough cooling. Make sure the heatsink is clear of debris, fluff etc.

I know very little about this board but there are a few reviews on the net from people that have had similar problems.

Other causes of random shutdowns etc. are as already mentioned - memory - do as suggested and remove 1 memory stick at a time and rerun the computer if ok or fails try the other stick .

Random problems can also be caused by failing or inadequate power supplies - if you have a spare try it if not use the speedfan monitoring program (or use the boards utility software if it has one) to monitor the temperatures and voltages inside your computer. Speedfan can also monitor the HDD drive.

One final thing, which is probably not a concern with later motherboards, the electolytic capacitors on the board can go bad leading to all sorts of problems. Check them visually to make sure any are not swollen or leaking. (Google motherboard bad caps for more info)

[cunny]

A BSOD can be caused by a number of things, bad driver, a corrupt file, to a faulty component. Approx 8 out of 10 would be hardware.

You have to check things 1 at a time. The reason why i asked you to try another hdd lead is its the easiest to replace and try. my suggestion? Start to remove componants 1 at a time to see if it persists. Starting with your ram, ensuring its not overclocked and is setup correctly.

[cresad67]

Hi all

Right , I've sort of got around the main problem I was having. This'll make you larf.
I sat there on tuesday and changed one thing after another , not necessarily in the right order. To start with I changed the mother board and ram - still wouldn't start up , then I changed the power unit - no joy , I unpluged a external 4 usb port unit and the cable , and found that I could get it to get so far. By this time I'd about had enough so bought a new hard drive as well slapped in my windows cd and 'tadaa' it works !!!!

So I've now got a machine with a Sempron 140 processor , a gigabyte GA-M68M-S2P mother board , 2gb of ram and a 320 gb hard drive.
I've also still got the bits I took out so I may Build it up in another case to see what the problem definatly is/was but I may wait awhile ( let my temper level drop ).

I have got a stupid little problem with the new set up that I've caused , I changed the drive letters around a bit on my drives and now can't get the dvd drive to pick up. It's a samsung super writemaster DVD RW SH-S223F SCSI device if that helps - I've gone through the troubleshooter , checked it's working - Device manager , It's got power , uninstalled the driver ( can't finde updated driver ) , it was working until I changed the drive letter. Don't know what else to try.

Adam