Which Box To Get ???

[ramjet]

I would advise buying a HD box anyway, even if your TV does not have a HDMI or component input for HD , as it gives more choice of channels than any SD receiver

you do not need to own a HD tv in order to watch HD channels, they are perfectly watchable in SD using scart or composite or rf, and there are many HD channels not available as SD on some satellites

a HD box is a much better option and I would not buy any sat box that wasnt HD

when I test a sat box I always use yellow/red/white composite in SD composite mode at my workstation, no matter if its SD or HD, it gets the same treatment when I flash it or test it, and only when its in its final resting place does HDMI get involved if its a HD box

it seems to me part of the problem here is that the OP wants a ferrari enzo for the price of an old austin allegro, and wasnt to do 200 mph plus in it as well, with a magic petrol tank that never runs dry, never needs filling up and is exempt from road tax and insurance and yearly mot,s

in other words he wants everything for nothing (or next to nothing)

[happy_highlander]

I have to agree with your analogy ramjet. I have just started looking into this myself and after some guidance from potrobber and rest of the threads on here it is looking like I'll be going for a tm5402 only because of the rf out which the blade doesn't have. But you can get ferrari performance if your prepared to spend out for a mondeo st instead of an allegro, which is still a fraction of the price, you just need to be realistic. Like everything in this modified world risks have to be taken and software needs to be developed, and hardware needs to be sacrificed during testing which all cost money. I feel the prices I have been pointed to are what the corporate suppliers should be rolling out, that way they wouldn't be losing as much business. There will always be people who want everything for nothing but less people would go looking if it was fairly priced in the first place.

[potrobber]

I have to agree with your analogy ramjet. I have just started looking into this myself and after some guidance from potrobber and rest of the threads on here it is looking like I'll be going for a tm5402 only because of the rf out which the blade doesn't have. But you can get ferrari performance if your prepared to spend out for a mondeo st instead of an allegro, which is still a fraction of the price, you just need to be realistic. Like everything in this modified world risks have to be taken and software needs to be developed, and hardware needs to be sacrificed during testing which all cost money. I feel the prices I have been pointed to are what the corporate suppliers should be rolling out, that way they wouldn't be losing as much business. There will always be people who want everything for nothing but less people would go looking if it was fairly priced in the first place.

morning highlander

i would maybe recommend you look at the blade also and a rf modulator for your rf out

for the simple reason the tm to me lacks behind the blade on controller layout and lack of online channel update which is a very good feature and so simple to use on the blade rf mod is extra 18 pounds

i have had both boxs and just think these 2 issues should not be there with the tm as im sure tm could do the channel update feature

controller is maybe just me but group/fav button and epg button are in a bad place

[happy_highlander]

I see where your coming from potrobber as I did like the display for the blade, it just seems a bit prettier however a sly channel list has just ben released for the tm very similar in look to the original (wife will like this, she understands it). One thing I haven't been able to find a straight answer for is, do I have to manually install the epg channel listings every 7 days........Of is this what you mean by online channel updates with the blade. To add another ?18 to the price of the blade for an rf modulator takes it up to near on ?170 with the tm coming in locally at ?130 to ?140. That's six months subs of a difference.

[Manic01]

You just got to a epg data channel on TM5402, select epg and it will popuate 7 days epg.
Just do that every 7 days.
It takes 30secs.

[pomp3y]

i was looking for a starting point i don't want everything for nothing or next to nothing i was just asking to gain info so i know these things if you don't ask in this world how are you gonna know......................

and no i don't work for sly

[happy_highlander]

i was looking for a starting point i don't want everything for nothing or next to nothing i was just asking to gain info so i know these things if you don't ask in this world how are you gonna know......................

and no i don't work for sly

I don't think the question was do you work for sly, I think it was more of a statement meaning if you want all your sly channels for free go get a job for them, you see all sly employees get the full package and all box office/special events for free....well they used to 10 years ago (had an ex who worked on customer services/technical line) pmsl

[pomp3y]

i think they still do don't know for cert but i do know this guy who works for vermin and he gets anything he wants for free as in TV Internet and so on

[ramjet]

i was looking for a starting point i don't want everything for nothing or next to nothing i was just asking to gain info so i know these things if you don't ask in this world how are you gonna know......................

and no i don't work for sly

this statement you made in post 1 implies you want premium or top rate paid for channels for next to nothing

Which Box To Get ???
i am looking for a sat box as i've had enough of vermin ripping me off and so on so i was just wondering which is the best box to get ??

i'm on a very tight budget at the moment so nothing to out there just has to be simple like viewing the channels and maybe HD...........

plus what channels would i get as thats gonna be another main thing i would like sky sports espn at the races racing uk and all that plus movies kids and so

ie:- you asked for HD , sly sports , espn , movies , racing channels etc and imply that you want them for a lot less than you are paying vermin at the moment , which means you want everything for little or no cost or outlay

so I disagree with your last statement complaining that we have the wrong end of the stick , believe me we dont as its a very common misconception that those with satellite equipment are getting a lot for a little

I dont have a problem with you learning what can be got , at a price, but it cannot be got for little or no money as you implied in your opening post, so read it again and look how selfish and cheap it appears to those of us that have shelled out hundreds of pounds to get good or top quality equipment and shares to achieve what you asked for

yes it can be done , but not on a tight budget, the two dont mix and never have done, and you should take a look at what you ask before condemning the replies