technomate 2100 versus stab 120

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  • andiewill
    DK Veteran
    • Aug 2008
    • 490

    #1

    technomate 2100 versus stab 120

    As the title says i have acquired a 110 triax dish that came bundled with a stab motor (?50.00 the lot), i will be in the process in replacing my 90cm dish and brackets etc, but not sure which motor to use the technomate 2100 or stab rotor 120, or should i say which is the better one ?

    ITgate TGM220 (swapable tuner), Dreambox 800 pro, Dreambox 500c x 2, DBox, Popbox media player.
  • mdt
    V.I.P. Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 3034

    #2
    Originally posted by andiewill
    As the title says i have acquired a 110 triax dish that came bundled with a stab motor (?50.00 the lot), i will be in the process in replacing my 90cm dish and brackets etc, but not sure which motor to use the technomate 2100 or stab rotor 120, or should i say which is the better one ?

    the stab motors are the best usals motors available today and walk all over the tm,s imho although believe it or not i actually have a technomate stab 100 here, regards mdt
    DM800HDSE SIM 2.10. SSL84D OPEN-ATV ORBITAL 80CM/DARK MOTOR/IBU/53E-30W

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    • Manic01
      Banned
      • Dec 2008
      • 5117

      #3
      Dark motor is top notch.

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      • digicon
        V.I.P. Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 8261

        #4
        Darkmotor here too, Stab's a great motor but overpriced for what it is and also very sluggish and slow

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        • mdt
          V.I.P. Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 3034

          #5
          Originally posted by Manic01
          Dark motor is top notch.

          wasnt the question ,m8... tm2100 or stab 120 and i still stand by what i said concerning the darkmotor as its got a poor design flaw as its difficult to get the f-con,s on without a spanner which 90% of enthusiasts wont have, regards mdt
          DM800HDSE SIM 2.10. SSL84D OPEN-ATV ORBITAL 80CM/DARK MOTOR/IBU/53E-30W

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          • andiewill
            DK Veteran
            • Aug 2008
            • 490

            #6
            Thanks for the info guys but i dont have a dark motor but what i here is to go with the stab 120 ? and when you say that the slab motor is sluggish are they really much slower than the tm 2100.

            ITgate TGM220 (swapable tuner), Dreambox 800 pro, Dreambox 500c x 2, DBox, Popbox media player.

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            • Manic01
              Banned
              • Dec 2008
              • 5117

              #7
              Depends if that motor you acquired is worn or not?

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              • ramjet
                DK Veteran
                • Nov 2008
                • 2995

                #8
                I have found that speed tests indicate the following order with the darkmotor the fastest

                1) darkmotor
                2) technomate motors
                3) stab motors

                my old stab motor became very worn with a lot of play in it, the others havent as yet

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                • andiewill
                  DK Veteran
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 490

                  #9
                  Depends if that motor you acquired is worn or not?
                  Hardly used he had the dish up for about 4 months and had to move house and had it all sitting in his garage and he said he hardly used it.

                  I have found that speed tests indicate the following order with the darkmotor the fastest

                  1) darkmotor
                  2) technomate motors
                  3) stab motors

                  my old stab motor became very worn with a lot of play in it, the others havent as yet
                  Cheers.... So is there much in the speed difference ? ie double the time to move from one sat to another.

                  ITgate TGM220 (swapable tuner), Dreambox 800 pro, Dreambox 500c x 2, DBox, Popbox media player.

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                  • ramjet
                    DK Veteran
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2995

                    #10
                    Originally posted by andiewill
                    Hardly used he had the dish up for about 4 months and had to move house and had it all sitting in his garage and he said he hardly used it.



                    Cheers.... So is there much in the speed difference ? ie double the time to move from one sat to another.
                    yes there is on my spiderbox , especially as the stab and the techno stop and start a lot unless using diseqc mode

                    the darkmotor superior seems twice as fast in both usals and diseqc modes

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                    • mdt
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 3034

                      #11
                      i guess its all down to personal preferance and mine is for the stab... i do agree that they are slower than the tm/darkmotor but you get a 3 year warrenty with the stab and the spiggot is facing upwards which gives you that extra 6 inches of hieght. ill bet the extra money for the stab is in part that its the only official usals certified diseqc motor and not to mention i find them easier to install when up a ladder. i dont actually use my stab anymore as it threw a wobberler about 9 months ago after 4 years of moving my td110 and still doesnt have any play in it but it went to 70e and refuses to move but im 90% sure that it was my fault due to me constantly changing/testing stb,s. the general train of thought nowadays is that the darkmotor is the best usals motor available but i like the stab motors and always have, regards mdt
                      DM800HDSE SIM 2.10. SSL84D OPEN-ATV ORBITAL 80CM/DARK MOTOR/IBU/53E-30W

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                      • pedro2000uk
                        Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 44

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mdt
                        the stab motors are the best usals motors available today and walk all over the tm,s imho although believe it or not i actually have a technomate stab 100 here, regards mdt
                        I agree, I actually like the HH90 [if you could get a good one], the HH120 is geared down compared to the HH100 & hh90's - it is the slower of the Stabs but with that gearing down you could hang a [sheltered] Channel Master 1.2 on a HH120 & before the Datkmotor, plenty of exposed TD1.1s were.

                        All the Stabs are very good at stopping on any satellite right where you put it - the Darkmotors too now, the Stabs use a big spring to center on sat & to take some wind loading off the gears - they feel as though they have play new but as you let go they spring back to the center of the sat. Even a completely trashed one we saw that some clown had installed on an aerial pole over a gable end with a 1m orbital on [don't need to explain what happened] ... even trashed & wobbling round - it still parked on every sat perfectly.

                        It's the high price- it let cheap Moteck motors etc.. take their market from them & now there's the Darkmotor taking Moteck's ..

                        btw.. almost any stb works with a stab in usals mode since they created usals so it's 100% even if the stb isn't they usually work, can't remember anything that didn't.


                        edit- sorry if that's cross posted - left on an edit screen while busy with something else..
                        Last edited by pedro2000uk; 26 April, 2012, 21:00.

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                        • mugello
                          Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 63

                          #13
                          Stab all the way,my HH 100 with 1m dish has been in place 15+ years in a fairly exposed location and in all that time I have only had to adjust the dish very slightly a couple of times after particularily bad storms.
                          Cheers

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