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  • Bumsrus
    Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 65

    #1

    TRIAX TD110 planning permission

    Guys what is the general consensus to planning permission for a triax 1.1 m dish . I know you need Planning permission for any dish >1m in height but I have read somewhere that the triax isn't actually that big. Basically the neighbours are threatening to consult the council about my dish, unfortunately the lnb is about 20cm over there side of the border line so i can see where there coming from. Am i going to have to re-locate the dish?
  • ramjet
    DK Veteran
    • Nov 2008
    • 2995

    #2
    if mr jobsworth from the council measured your dish it would need planning permission as it is over 100cm is size (just,but thats all it takes)

    obviously its better to keep your neighbours onside and affable, which you dont appear to have done

    but your question is twofold

    1) is a td110 bigger than 100cm needing planning permission ? = yes it is bigger than 100cm - ergo !!

    2) you mention it overhanging their property by 20cm , which is clearly a boundary issue and not a planning permission issue

    if it was a tree , they could lop off the overhang and chuck it back onto your property, so I would say that its in breach even if the dish was 100cm or less

    I have had a sly dish on my side wall overhanging the neighbours garage and property for maybe 12 to 15 years , but I sought his permission before allowing it to be placed there, otherwise it would be on the front of my property

    so do I think you are in breach of his property rights ? - yes I do, and that does not include having a dish requiring planning permission

    even having planning permission does not give you the right to violate a neighbours property, including boundaries

    googled it and found this statement

    "Overhanging of anything is a trespass under common law, and you need express permission from the owner whose land you overhang - which is the easement"
    Last edited by ramjet; 30 April, 2012, 22:36.

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    • mdt
      V.I.P. Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 3034

      #3
      Originally posted by Bumsrus
      Guys what is the general consensus to planning permission for a triax 1.1 m dish . I know you need Planning permission for any dish >1m in height but I have read somewhere that the triax isn't actually that big. Basically the neighbours are threatening to consult the council about my dish, unfortunately the lnb is about 20cm over there side of the border line so i can see where there coming from. Am i going to have to re-locate the dish?


      tell your neighbour to f*** off or you will stove his head in and give him something to complain about... a english mans home is his castle!! but seriously m8 if your neighbours are arseholes then id just re-locate your dish but if you would have asked they probably would have been ok about it, regards mdt
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      • Bumsrus
        Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 65

        #4
        Well I didnt realise it would extend on to his side and be problem. If anyone comes to check it, I might just angle it as its Motorised and see if I an getaway with it that way

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        • Bumsrus
          Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 65

          #5
          Now iv been told I am in a conservation area so have to take t down. Anyone know the regs on this ?

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          • ramjet
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            • Nov 2008
            • 2995

            #6
            Originally posted by Bumsrus
            Now iv been told I am in a conservation area so have to take t down. Anyone know the regs on this ?
            the regs are here A Householder's Planning Guide for the Installation of Antennas, including Satellite Dishes - Planning, building and the environment - Department for Communities and Local Government

            also this too http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/per...tenna/guidance
            Last edited by ramjet; 3 May, 2012, 21:30.

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            • mdt
              V.I.P. Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 3034

              #7
              Originally posted by Bumsrus
              Now iv been told I am in a conservation area so have to take t down. Anyone know the regs on this ?


              thats correct m8 if you are although the european court made a ruling not so long ago saying it breaches your human rights if you are not allowed a satellite dish although i dont know the ins and outs... @digicon could probably help you on this score as he,s a professional installer and knows the legallitys of it all.. who told you its in a conservation area? regards mdt
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              • Bumsrus
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                • Apr 2012
                • 65

                #8
                The nosey neighbour that wants it down

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                • mdt
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                  • Feb 2009
                  • 3034

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bumsrus
                  The nosey neighbour that wants it down


                  go round with a hammer a tell him if he reports you you will give him something to complain about!!! its your house and not his and tell him to keep his f***** nose out of your business, regards mdt
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                  • ramjet
                    DK Veteran
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2995

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bumsrus
                    The nosey neighbour that wants it down
                    I posted the regs so if you check them a conservation area expects that your dish cannot be seen from a road or waterway

                    ie:- what it calls a designated area

                    councils can require you to move badly sited installations or ones that do not comply with the regs

                    but as stated you have a fundamental right in law to a dish

                    if it was a listed building then its different as that would need listed building consent

                    but I think some respondents need to think about anger management lessons LOL

                    The problem as I see it is that the neighbour could employ underhanded tactics like keep moving your dish to your side of the boundary, or sticking tinfoil over the lnb, or other "faults" that you would have to fix, or even an obstruction on his own property that you would be powerless to prevent. I could think up dozens of ways of affecting your viewing and I am sure 5 minutes on google would do the same for said neighbour

                    but the point is that you must comply with the designated areas section and standard section for your house in the up to 15 metres high sections of the document I linked to

                    and if your dish can be seen from the road, then you are breaking conservation area regs

                    and that is besides the fact that your dish arm and lnb are trespassing !! (and your dish is over the 100cm maximum)
                    Last edited by ramjet; 3 May, 2012, 22:18.

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                    • Bumsrus
                      Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 65

                      #11
                      Hi ramjet, when you say 15m , I live in a bungalow so will get my tape measure out and double check. Would i be right in saying that if its lower then 15m i should be ok?

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                      • ramjet
                        DK Veteran
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2995

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bumsrus
                        Hi ramjet, when you say 15m , I live in a bungalow so will get my tape measure out and double check. Would i be right in saying that if its lower then 15m i should be ok?
                        those regulations have 2 sections , buildings up to 15 metres , and buildings greater than 15 metres

                        I think we can safely say that a bungalow is below 15 metres !!

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                        • Bumsrus
                          Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 65

                          #13
                          Planning Permission will be required for:

                          "Installation of microwave antenna on a chimney wall or roof slope facing onto or visible from a highway, or on a building >15m high"

                          Im confused . Does this mean i will need to take it down or as its smaller then 15m i am ok . Im confused because it states.... "or on a building >15m high"

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                          • potrobber
                            DK Veteran
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 493

                            #14
                            m8

                            that to me says planning permission is required if its on a building up to 15 meters high

                            you know you need planning permission for the size of dish you have anyway

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                            • Bumsrus
                              Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 65

                              #15
                              Originally posted by potrobber
                              m8

                              that to me says planning permission is required if its on a building up to 15 meters high

                              you know you need planning permission for the size of dish you have anyway

                              between me and the neighbour my dish is only 1m in size, what he doesn't know wont hurt him

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