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  • garry1312
    DK Veteran
    • Oct 2010
    • 2178

    #16
    Originally posted by potrobber
    hello blodscrap

    the vu duo clone will take a 3.5 sata drive i would recommend going for this over any of the dm boxs

    for one the vu+ clone range run the genuine firmware
    unlike the dm range that use patched firmware and results in people putting on the wrong
    bootloader or sim version for there box

    second is the fact the vu duo has a much larger casing near the size of sly box which means it runs alot cooler dms are very compact and some people have over heating issues with them

    i know your doning your homework now with all this, my best advice is read the dm section and enigma2 section to see how many people have had trouble with clone dms and flashed with wrong image

    and also the vu section there is not so many people having trouble with flashing images as there is none to mix up as i said genuine images work on clone vu range

    clone duo is around 175 and clone solo is around 110 inc postage
    See I know time has passed but I still disagree the DM clones have proven themselves and have much more support , more images etc.

    I want to be proven wrong and I am going to try and prove myself wrong by buying a a duo clone from my Chinese supplier that has not let me down with any receivers but I will not be proven wrong by purchasing it, installing the latest image etc I will give it 6-8 months (think thats extremely fair to be honest)

    Still believe if and when the SE clone has a twin sat tuner it will sell better than the the Duo clone and my reason for that is theres much more support out there for DM clones, we all mostly know that the DM clone market is bang on perfect now (if you buy from the right supplier) Most likely be released if buying from China as Sunray 800SE dual or whatever (if you are that fussed my supplier has told me that it can come unlabelled with the dreambox logo hidden within the receiver to apply yourself. Sunray name is nothing more than to help it reach the customer and not get stopped by customs.

    As I said I will purchase a Duo Clone and I will compare it against my Xtrend ET9200 even though the ET9200 is a better spec against the original Duo but it will give me a good idea.

    I actually do want to be proven wrong but personally in my opinion it has still not proven itself if everyone was rushing out buying these duo clones were is the the threads to support it?

    Look at the 500's ran on original images, Gemini added a timebomb for clone images, that was only one image fair enough but I can see Vu+ putting up a bigger fight so time will really tell but when it comes to the DM receivers there not running the original images there running patched images or images created for the clone receiver.

    Also one of my largest arguments has always been there is not a huge saving between buying a Duo clone and the original Duo, same images etc but is it worth it if it goes tits up? With a DM clone you are saving hundreds plus a wider range of images and once again SUPPORT.

    Will buy one will put it through everything I can possibly put it through and then I will make my choice on it but still for the price over an original why go for it seriously?

    On another note I seen on another forum that also sells receivers who are apparently totally against clones and would happily ban you for mentioning a clone yet they sell the V8 (in my opinion a DM 500 clone runs the same images etc....its a 500 clone) but someone started a thread raising this point they got all offensive said no its not a clone it does not have the name Dreambox on it, so will be interesting to see if they have the same attitude to the Sunray name because we are going to be seen more of it.
    Last edited by garry1312; 30 May, 2012, 06:05. Reason: Added 'On another note'


    Rest In Peace Michael Mcharg, A true friend and although gone never forgotten. 11-10-08.

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    • Manic01
      Banned
      • Dec 2008
      • 5117

      #17
      Who really cares?
      It's all down to personal preference, hence the different images to start with.
      You can say one thing and another member another but at the end of the day its down to the person buying it and what he expects from it.
      Theres a big gap between dm clones and originals in price because all dmm products are grossly over priced to start with .

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      • garry1312
        DK Veteran
        • Oct 2010
        • 2178

        #18
        Originally posted by Manic01
        Who really cares?
        It's all down to personal preference, hence the different images to start with.
        You can say one thing and another member another but at the end of the day its down to the person buying it and what he expects from it.
        Theres a big gap between dm clones and originals in price because all dmm products are grossly over priced to start with .
        Exactly its down each persons views and I am just voicing my views as thats what its all about.

        If people did not voice there opinion and everyone just kept there mouth shut then there would be no need for forums. End of the day someone looking at this thread might say I agree with that person or I agree with that person I am going to go for it or not.

        Yes DM's are way overpriced especially for instance the 8000 which apart from the tuner capacity is under spec now compared to other receivers on the market. Personally myself though if I was buying a receiver and if theres a clone option were I am only saving ?100-?150 I would rather spend the extra and buy the original and that is also the advice I would give. If someone said "I am going to buy a 800 SE original" I would say why bother the clone is less than half the price and has proven itself.


        Rest In Peace Michael Mcharg, A true friend and although gone never forgotten. 11-10-08.

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        • andy91
          V.I.P. Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 3583

          #19
          Clones all the way for me you just have to wait a bit to make sure all the initial bugs are fixed.
          Seeing that lately on the Vu duos and before on the Dreambox800se thats why i think Dreambox800hd are solid since they added the new tuner M 801a.

          Andy.
          New Members http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/fo rums/f5/forum-rules-2/ A Good Place To Start

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          • garry1312
            DK Veteran
            • Oct 2010
            • 2178

            #20
            Originally posted by andy91
            Clones all the way for me you just have to wait a bit to make sure all the initial bugs are fixed.
            Seeing that lately on the Vu duos and before on the Dreambox800se thats why i think Dreambox800hd are solid since they added the new tuner M 801a.

            Andy.
            Hey mate you still not taken the plunge and went for the SE?

            I have had mine for ages now and never had a issue with it, its never even been turned off, its never even on standby for that matter, does not overhear and runs as great as the day I bought it

            Personally I think if I bought my 800Pro and SE at the same time the first one have issues would be the Pro.

            In saying that the fan went in my Pro had to replace it and that did get turned on to standby and turned off as they do get warm (the SE is always cool no heat when you touch it)
            Fan on the SE is running 24/7 and still going very strong.


            Rest In Peace Michael Mcharg, A true friend and although gone never forgotten. 11-10-08.

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            • andy91
              V.I.P. Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 3583

              #21
              Originally posted by garry1312
              Hey mate you still not taken the plunge and went for the SE?

              I have had mine for ages now and never had a issue with it, its never even been turned off, its never even on standby for that matter, does not overhear and runs as great as the day I bought it

              Personally I think if I bought my 800Pro and SE at the same time the first one have issues would be the Pro.

              In saying that the fan went in my Pro had to replace it and that did get turned on to standby and turned off as they do get warm (the SE is always cool no heat when you touch it)
              Fan on the SE is running 24/7 and still going very strong.
              Hi mate,hope things are going ok?

              I cant fault my Dreambox800hd but if i ever decided to have another box it would be something like the Extrend.
              Read to many bad timing problems with the Se and you know with the 800 theres loads of support.

              Andy.
              New Members http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/fo rums/f5/forum-rules-2/ A Good Place To Start

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              • garry1312
                DK Veteran
                • Oct 2010
                • 2178

                #22
                Id say more support for the SE now mate and as I said mine has been flawless since day one.

                Own the Xtrend ET9200 mate and cant fault great receiver.
                ?
                Next purchase in the next couple of months will the the Vu+ Ultimo (Great not having a mrs now to say "your no spending that on a receiver" )

                Aye am doing okay cheers bud yourself?


                Rest In Peace Michael Mcharg, A true friend and although gone never forgotten. 11-10-08.

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                • andy91
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 3583

                  #23
                  Originally posted by garry1312
                  Id say more support for the SE now mate and as I said mine has been flawless since day one.

                  Own the Xtrend ET9200 mate and cant fault great receiver.
                  ?
                  Next purchase in the next couple of months will the the Vu+ Ultimo (Great not having a mrs now to say "your no spending that on a receiver" )

                  Aye am doing okay cheers bud yourself?
                  My problems are not as bad as yours mate its my golf swing ive trouble with most of the time
                  I mentioned to her indoors a while back i wanted a new box and she said "Whats wrong with this one" enough said.

                  Andy.
                  New Members http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/fo rums/f5/forum-rules-2/ A Good Place To Start

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                  • garry1312
                    DK Veteran
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 2178

                    #24
                    Thats always there first reply tell her its ~~~~ed and due to go on you make something up.

                    See a want the Ultimo but the same time ?500 and for what a extra tuner over my ET9200 a hardly use the twin tuner on that but what can a say a love that feeling of a new receiver never mind Christmas a receiver getting delivered


                    Rest In Peace Michael Mcharg, A true friend and although gone never forgotten. 11-10-08.

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                    • ramjet
                      DK Veteran
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2995

                      #25
                      seen a few posts about the new vu models out soo , so look tasty to me if the hype is correct

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                      • spudorange
                        Top Poster +
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 242

                        #26
                        Whilst we are bouncing this subject around (clone or not) I got offered a vu solo clone for effectively ?100 a few days ago via email.

                        Vu+ Solo CE Single Tuner DVB-S2 HD Linux (Engima2) Satellite Rec ?119 with free wi fi usb dongle.

                        Heard some reasonable feedback on these

                        Interested to hear peoples feedback.

                        PS.
                        Think I am not jumping on this thread, if so will repost appropriately.

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