dish settings

[mikejc01]

Hi Guys ,
I have a sealion for 19.2 channels I can pick up most of the spanish ones but not german etc ,as I live in spain.

my dish setting on my blade bm 7000 are

1 satelite 19.2 astra 1
2Frequency 10.787ghz
3 lnb power on
4 lnb type universal
5 lnb freq 9.750/10.600
6 22khz auto
7 diseqc 1.0/1.1 off/off
8 disrqc motor usals
9 go to press ok.

I dont have a motor dish ,am on a fixed shared dish.
What do I need to do to pick up the other channels on 19.2

thanks for any help

Mike

[mdt]

Hi Guys ,
I have a sealion for 19.2 channels I can pick up most of the spanish ones but not german etc ,as I live in spain.

my dish setting on my blade bm 7000 are

1 satelite 19.2 astra 1
2Frequency 10.787ghz
3 lnb power on
4 lnb type universal
5 lnb freq 9.750/10.600
6 22khz auto
7 diseqc 1.0/1.1 off/off
8 disrqc motor usals
9 go to press ok.

I dont have a motor dish ,am on a fixed shared dish.
What do I need to do to pick up the other channels on 19.2

thanks for any help

Mike

what channels do you recieve apart from the spanish ones? do you recieve sky news international on 12.604.h or any in the high band above 11.700 in h or v. im not to sure about this as ive never installed or had any dealings with a multi-dwelling smatv system but the l.o.s. might be causing a issue but this depends on the lnb, in use on the main dish and whether its a universal lnbf or a omt type with two seperate feeds one for h and one for v. can you pick up anything above 11.700 using a blind scan? regards mdt

[digicon]

You can also download a Channel list pre-made for the Blade 7000 from its own online servers, Give this a try and see if you can pick any of the channels up

[ramjet]

I dont believe the german channels can be received in spain, not without a massive dish anyway

the words location,location are something people in this game overlook, as they tend to assume they can receive everything from satellites

here in the uk we are lucky enough to be able to receive a lot of channels from various satellites, but you have to check places like lyng sat or k.o.sat for reception coverage depending on what you are trying to receive

so in short, I dont think its possible, or to put it another way , with an extremely large dish it may be possible

but I think you fall into the latter category of thinking that with a dish you get everything, and in practice you dont ! and this is one example that proves it

[mikejc01]

I just wanted to know if I need to scan other freq other than 2Frequency 10.787ghz in the dish setting. Im not sure how big the dish is as I cant get to it on the roof. I have done a blind scan on the channel setting with no luck.

[digicon]

If you are in mainland spain or even one of the Balearic islands you will have Zero problems all 19.2? east 1H/1K etc... can be received on a 60cm dish no problem, and i highly doubt someone has stuck something smaller on an apartment block

[ramjet]

I just wanted to know if I need to scan other freq other than 2Frequency 10.787ghz in the dish setting. Im not sure how big the dish is as I cant get to it on the roof. I have done a blind scan on the channel setting with no luck.

you can scan any frequencies in the tuner range , so yes you can try other frequencies from fly sat or k*ing of sat or lyng sat, this is true of almost any receiver

in the past I have seen reports of poor or no reception on german channels in spain, BUT maybe the newer satellites have sorted that problem out, and checking fly sat reception footprints seems to indicate spain is covered by all of them

your blade box instructions will tell you how to manually scan transponders, of which there will be many you can try scanning in

for example , try for fta channels like sport 1 on 12480V 27500 or zdf HD on 11361H 22000 or bbc world on 11597V 22000 , tested and working here

so its just a case of trying working transponders, dont believe all you read about blind scan either

manual tuning is best, on known to be working transponders

some fta news channels on

12226H 27500
12604H 22000
11778V 27500
11509V 22000
11538V 22000
11954H 27500

so plenty for you to test there

[mikejc01]

I have downloaded the new channel list from blade online, it has french channels and spanish channels .I did a blind scan in channel setting.

Can I scan on the dish setting side to see if that picks up other channels.I will do a manual scan soon on the channels setup

thanks to all who have replied and trying to help me out ,am very greatful

Im still very new to this so sorry for being a pain and asking all these questions. I live in mainlad spain

[digicon]

Just to throw something else into the equation if as you say you are on a Fixed shared dish which i assume is in some form of apartment block then i would have assumed when installed they used a Quattro LNB which feeds the HH/HL/VH/VL signals to a distribution amplifier if one of these feeds is faulty then it can stop you searching certain KU bands which will result in loss of channels.

Just something to think about.

[mikejc01]

Just to throw something else into the equation if as you say you are on a Fixed shared dish which i assume is in some form of apartment block then i would have assumed when installed they used a Quattro LNB which feeds the HH/HL/VH/VL signals to a distribution amplifier if one of these feeds is faulty then it can stop you searching certain KU bands which will result in loss of channels.

Just something to think about.

true thanks buddy. I live in a apartment block 24 floors high ,so the sta dish is shared among many people.

[ramjet]

I suggest you manually add the transponders for 19e that I listed and scan those until you learn to use your box properly

I have already tested those for you on my spiderbox and can confirm they are working for me here in the uk

you also need to try doing what others like mdt and digicon have asked you to do too, we are helping you but you arent doing what we ask, which makes it even more difficult to help you (its a 2 way street)

by the way , you cannot scan channels , you scan TRANSPONDERS which are a number of channels with common attributes

ie:- frequency , symbol rate , polarity, and other aspects like SD or HD attributes too

there is also pid scanning, blind scanning etc, but you really should learn from the bottom rung by manually adding working transponders, scanning, and saving them, and then checking that they work

one of the worst things about using premade lists is it makes you complacent and you dont learn to use the box properly. if manual scanning was mandatory, people would learn more about their boxes and the whole system in general, as mentioned in another thread by shady about sgt flip flops retirement

[mikejc01]

I suggest you manually add the transponders for 19e that I listed and scan those until you learn to use your box properly

I have already tested those for you on my spiderbox and can confirm they are working for me here in the uk

you also need to try doing what others like mdt and digicon have asked you to do too, we are helping you but you arent doing what we ask, which makes it even more difficult to help you (its a 2 way street)

by the way , you cannot scan channels , you scan TRANSPONDERS which are a number of channels with common attributes

ie:- frequency , symbol rate , polarity, and other aspects like SD or HD attributes too

there is also pid scanning, blind scanning etc, but you really should learn from the bottom rung by manually adding working transponders, scanning, and saving them, and then checking that they work

one of the worst things about using premade lists is it makes you complacent and you dont learn to use the box properly. if manual scanning was mandatory, people would learn more about their boxes and the whole system in general, as mentioned in another thread by shady about sgt flip flops retirement

ok thanks I will do what you,s have ask me to ,and learn more thanks

[ramjet]

you should have an instruction manual with your new box

page 18 , chapter 6 , paragraph 1 deals with manual scanning

I have already given you the transponder details with working channels , like cnn , sly news , bbc world , zdf , euronews , france 24 news (english), sport 1 , and a few others

as digicon pointed out, if the quattro isnt giving you all 4 options due to a fault or something, you wont get some channels, but if your system is working as it should you should get all 4 options from the lnb distribution system and so have all channels available to your box

manual scanning is also preferable as you get what you want, without all the rubbish you dont want (there will still need to be a tidy up as you will get channels you dont need, but that is housekeeping and another lesson to learn)

I use manual scanning for the blade or the spiderbox, and never had problems with these boxes or any others I have owned over the years

will take you maybe 20 minutes or less to scan all the ones I gave you, then you can post back with the results

try for fta channels like sport 1 on 12480V 27500 or zdf HD on 11361H 22000 or bbc world on 11597V 22000 , tested and working here

so its just a case of trying working transponders, dont believe all you read about blind scan either

manual tuning is best, on known to be working transponders

some fta news channels on

12226H 27500
12604H 22000
11778V 27500
11509V 22000
11538V 22000
11954H 27500
12480V 27500
11361H 22000
11597V 22000

if I go to the trouble of moving my dish to 19e and test those fta channels for you using my spiderbox, and if I write down their transponder details on here like I did, then surely you should do me the courtesy of trying them out on your blade and reporting back with your findings ? ?


and mdt asked you these 2 questions

what channels do you recieve apart from the spanish ones?

1) do you recieve sky news international on 12.604.h or any in the high band above 11.700 in h or v

im not to sure about this as ive never installed or had any dealings with a multi-dwelling smatv system but the l.o.s. might be causing a issue but this depends on the lnb, in use on the main dish and whether its a universal lnbf or a omt type with two seperate feeds one for h and one for v.

2) can you pick up anything above 11.700 using a blind scan?

regards mdt

so try answering those 2 queries too , ie:- do as asked and give feedback !

[ramjet]

just used channel search to try scanning 2 transponders on 19e on my blade bm7000s

12226H 27500
11597V 22000

ok on euronews , cnbc and bbc world news



change 2 - scan mode to manual from auto , on 3 - frequency I pressed ok and selected the transponder, which was already in there, otherwise add it using the green button , then red to scan , and save , and view

took less than a minute for each transponder

[mikejc01]

ok guys,

I tried scanning in manually , with no luck .its says the same tp exists , and finds no channels same as the other ones.
I could not get sky news int ,cnbc or bbc wn or euro news I tried adding the tp in with the green button etc
could it be the dish is only set up for the spanish channels.
I do get some french channels like beln sports and a few others.

Any guys thanks for all who has tried to help me out am very greatful

Mike