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  • robbiecookie101
    Newbie
    • Feb 2009
    • 16

    #1

    best options for 45cm dish

    Hi all

    I've got a standard sky 45cm dish pointing at 28.2

    What other satellites can i point to, i want 3pm kick offs.

    Thanks
    RC
  • digicon
    V.I.P. Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 8261

    #2
    13.0? east and look for the Cyfra+ package thats about the strongest package on that satellite for that size of dish

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    • robbiecookie101
      Newbie
      • Feb 2009
      • 16

      #3
      Thanks Digicon

      Would I be better off with a larger dish? I'm picking up sky channels from the communal satellite the previous tenant had their own sky dish so i wanted to make use of it.

      I have a vu solo, can I use a diseqc switch and use both satellites if i point the sky one at 13E?

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      • ramjet
        DK Veteran
        • Nov 2008
        • 2995

        #4
        Originally posted by robbiecookie101
        Thanks Digicon

        Would I be better off with a larger dish? I'm picking up sky channels from the communal satellite the previous tenant had their own sky dish so i wanted to make use of it.

        I have a vu solo, can I use a diseqc switch and use both satellites if i point the sky one at 13E?

        yes is the basic answer to all those questions

        bigger dish better ? -yes
        use a diseqc switch ? - yes
        use a mini dish on 13e ? - yes

        bear in mind that that dish is really only of any use on 28e to be honest about it, but can be used on a few other stronger satellites, its bigger zone 2 60cm borother is of more use, and ideall one between 80cm and 120cm would be ideal for various satellites, even as a fixed dish to get 3 or 4 satellites using the diseqc switch

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        • robbiecookie101
          Newbie
          • Feb 2009
          • 16

          #5
          Hello again both

          I'm thinking of buying a monoblock lnb and trying to point to both 13E & 19.2 do you think this is possible with a 45cm dish?

          if it is possible the lnb i was looking has uses a built in diseqc switch, how will this work with connecting to my vu+ box as obviously i would be plugging both satellite's into a seperate diseqc switch but does a d-switch work behind another d-switch?

          Thanks
          RC

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          • ramjet
            DK Veteran
            • Nov 2008
            • 2995

            #6
            a 6 degree monoblock is designed to operate and focus on an 80cm dish , so no, wont work

            you could use an lnb rack on a 60cm zone 2 dish for those 2 sats

            you may have problems operating two diseqc switches in tandem

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            • ramjet
              DK Veteran
              • Nov 2008
              • 2995

              #7
              a 6 degree monoblock is designed to operate and focus on an 80cm dish , so no, wont work

              you could use an lnb rack on a 60cm zone 2 dish for those 2 sats

              you may have problems operating two diseqc switches in tandem

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              • M T Glass
                DK Veteran
                • Jul 2013
                • 733

                #8
                You will probably have to make your own set up as the arm on the sly dish is square (or use to be) and any set ups I've seen have been for round arms, though that was a few years ago. As above, a bigger dish is the way to go for a monoblock.
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                • digicon
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 8261

                  #9
                  The Posts above both from ramjet & M T glass give excellent advice and that is more likely the route you should take, all i would add is if you are wanting to go ahead with the 45cm dish route then it is possible but not ideal that you could zip tie another LNB to your original one to give you both 13 & 19.2 east.

                  This has been done before on a $ly 45cm dish for both 28.2 and 19.2 east with some success, But i would heed the advice given above and look at doing a correct decent size dish install

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                  • Hadron
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 2102

                    #10
                    Originally posted by digicon
                    ...if you are wanting to go ahead with the 45cm dish route then it is possible but not ideal that you could zip tie another LNB to your original one to give you both 13 & 19.2 east.

                    This has been done before on a $ly 45cm dish for both 28.2 and 19.2 east with some success, But i would heed the advice given above and look at doing a correct decent size dish install
                    Just to clarify. You can gaffa tape or tie another LNB to your current 28.2e LNB to give you either 19.2e or 13e, but you cannot have both 19.2e and 13e on a $ly minidish.

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                    • digicon
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 8261

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hadron
                      Just to clarify. You can gaffa tape or tie another LNB to your current 28.2e LNB to give you either 19.2e or 13e, but you cannot have both 19.2e and 13e on a $ly minidish.
                      It would need some modification but the 28.2? & 19.2? east with Gaffa or Zip tie was posted a while ago:

                      photo 1.jpgphoto 2.jpg

                      Not my work as i say posted elsewhere quite a while ago, I would assume for 19.2? east and 13? east you would need a slimmer LNB or just hope for the best.

                      Just so you know i dont recommend this practice as in the photo above but if you want to save cash or just experiment then why not

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                      • Hadron
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 2102

                        #12
                        Originally posted by digicon
                        It would need some modification but the 28.2? & 19.2? east with Gaffa or Zip tie was posted a while ago:

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                        Not my work as i say posted elsewhere quite a while ago, I would assume for 19.2? east and 13? east you would need a slimmer LNB or just hope for the best.

                        Just so you know i dont recommend this practice as in the photo above but if you want to save cash or just experiment then why not
                        Yep. I think it was me that actually posted those! I know that I have posted pictures of gaffa taped LNB's in the past.

                        But even for a 10 degree separation, the LNB's have to be touching, side by side, with no gap. I just cannot see it working for a 6.5 degree separation on a 45cm dish.

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                        • digicon
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 8261

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hadron
                          Yep. I think it was me that actually posted those! I know that I have posted pictures of gaffa taped LNB's in the past.

                          But even for a 10 degree separation, the LNB's have to be touching, side by side, with no gap. I just cannot see it working for a 6.5 degree separation on a 45cm dish.

                          And that is why i specifically mentioned in the post about 'Slimmer LNB's' you could even stick a monoblock on the dish but the official $ly lnb holder would need some adapting to take the monoblock.

                          There are ways and means to sort anything if your that way inclined but truth is as mentioned many times in this thread by other members, It would be far easier changing the dish and using the correct equipment.

                          the pictures where found by just typing 45cm dish gaffa tape into google and selecting images there are plenty more about

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                          • Benzade
                            Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 95

                            #14
                            Not mentioned here but I'm sure I've seen it once where someone had actually motorized a 45cm Sly dish so that they could get 13e, 19e and 28e without having to swap the dish.

                            A waste of a motor IMHO and probably a faff to setup but it's an option I suppose if you are living in rented accommodation and the Landlord won't budge on having a larger dish installed.

                            It also needs to be said that depending on the size of your replacement dish any offset LNBs will lose signal/quality strength on the weaker transponders or even altogether in poor weather conditions.
                            Last edited by Benzade; 27 September, 2013, 11:22.

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                            • ramjet
                              DK Veteran
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2995

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Benzade
                              Not mentioned here but I'm sure I've seen it once where someone had actually motorized a 45cm Sly dish so that they could get 13e, 19e and 28e without having to swap the dish.

                              A waste of a motor IMHO and probably a faff to setup but it's an option I suppose if you are living in rented accommodation and the Landlord won't budge on having a larger dish installed.

                              It also needs to be said that depending on the size of your replacement dish any offset LNBs will lose signal/quality strength on the weaker transponders or even altogether in poor weather conditions.
                              whilst I am sure it is possible, the problems are that there are so many variants of that type of dish that you have different engineering problems to overcome, including the fixing or bolting of the small dish mount to the spigot on the motor, setting the elevation of the dish as there will either be no adjuster or its not marked , not insurmountable by somebody practical with metalworking knowledge but not worth the effort in my opinion due to the size, not even with a zone 2 59cm dish either, never mind a zone 1

                              better to spend the money on a proper sized one of at least 80cm if you are going to motorise a dish

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