Newbie starting setup

[ramjet]

you wont be able to tune it in until you get the motor setup

if the dish is pointing in a similar direct to the sly dishes, then that is 28 east , not thor which is 29 degrees away and is almost due south for the uk

bbc world is a good transponder to aim at for thor , or sly news , or the music channel , or btv-1 , or al jazz english or the ccctv channels

[smurph]

thanks...but you have got me more confused:
1. Are you writing "sly" on purpose?
2. sly dishes around me are pointing 170 degrees, would this be correct?
3. Transponder -i have no idea about channels, this is done by a number on my box, and look like "10818 V 22000", how does that translate to what you are saying?

New question - if i use a meter, will only detect the satellite I am looking for, that is in the setup in my box, or will it beep at others?

[P&D]

Going by you last question......

A great deal of reading you should be doing...before you try to set the system up.....reading up on the subject will really help you understand the basics
Sly dish's point at 28.2E
If members just give you the answers you ask for... then you will not learn a thing....& the thread becomes 200 posts long

Get to know the basic's then you know what to ask this where most people start

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f11/strongest-transponder-guide-7075/#post40281

[ramjet]

thanks...but you have got me more confused:
1. Are you writing "sly" on purpose?
2. sly dishes around me are pointing 170 degrees, would this be correct?
3. Transponder -i have no idea about channels, this is done by a number on my box, and look like "10818 V 22000", how does that translate to what you are saying?

New question - if i use a meter, will only detect the satellite I am looking for, that is in the setup in my box, or will it beep at others?

1) YES, we do not use the company names here , but other derivatives

2) as I mentioned earlier , sly dishes point at 28.2 degrees east of the greenwich meridian (which is zero)

3) transponders are "tuned in" and contain a number of channels , between 1 and 12 maybe on average , you cannot tune a channel in unless you use the actual pid system !

most meters will beep no matter what you point them at, unless you use the expensive ones like installers use

[smurph]

Thanks P&D, for Transponder info. that makes sense.
Note: if answers were provided, the thread would be much shorter, and others could follow it, and learn too.

[P&D]

Thanks P&D, for Transponder info. that makes sense.
Note: if answers were provided, the thread would be much shorter, and others could follow it, and learn too.

i would agree with you......But 95% of the questions you need to ask have already been answered on DK...i would put money on it....when i bought my new box VU+2 i spent ...i would say 4 weeks reading upon what i needed to know how to get the box up & running & what to install & what not to.....

I would say set the box up on a fixed dish to start.(like you say in your 1st post)..lets say 28.2E.....get use to the box 1st....this may help..http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...hd-box-197875/
by the looks of it its harder to setup than the solo 2

All i'm saying don't try to run before you can walk.......wants the point of buying a dish putting it up....then you don't know what to load on the box to get the channels your after
use your old Sly dish & lnb if you still have one on the wall.......this will work to get the box up & running for the moment

Thx P & D

[ramjet]

as above, you will notice that most replies point you to existing threads, some of them sticky threads, so the answers are here for the most part, its not as if we havent had other members asking the same questions over the years, everything will have been asked and answered at some point

the problem IN YOUR CASE is that you are trying to set up a motorised system (which isnt easy) using equipment you are unfamiliar with (not knowing or understanding the tools like your box or a sat meter) , compounded by the fact that you havent understood how digital channels are grouped in transponders on satellite and cable and freeview , causing you to think you are tuning channels in (like in the *nalogue days) instead of tuning a bunch (bouquet) of channels in from a transponder (like a bouquet contains a dozen or more flowers and not just the one)

yes we appreciate its difficult for a newbie to comprehend, which is why myself and others have written guides to help everyone get to grips with it

I also agree you seem to be running before learning to walk, slow down and be methodical in this and you may have better results

good luck

[smurph]

Thanks guys, I do appreciate it, and agree re running before walking!! Anyway, will soldier on.

[dick b]

if you cant find the transponders in the box that are listed in my setup guide load this one I"m sending(it will need unpacking 1st)then load it on a usb stick put in box then menu>system information>load channel list from usb>ok.the list is for a 9750HD as its the box you say you have,if its a different box just change the file name to the box model in your computer before loading.the list has FTA channels at the start of each satellite.
put your location latitude and longitude in the "usals"menu of the box then exit all menus and press "ok" followed by the green button select 28.2E>ok then the 1st channel>ok,wait for motor to stop. this is sly news.now if you point the whole motor/dish assembly in the same direction as the local sly dishes and follow the directions in the set up guide you should be halfway there.
once you have found sly news and have picture press menu>installation>usals,this will bring the box meter up and you should then adjust the motor/dish L/R and the dish only up/down to get the green bar as high as possible before tightening up.
you can then fine tune your longitude position as per the pic.

[smurph]

Thanks dick b...channel list installed.
I have followed your previous USALS setup instructions [for satellite 0.8W Thor 3/5 ; 11785H 30000], and some of latest post, and get 75% green quality & 90% orange strength, but still can't view channels on Thor, any ideas?
Have tweaked the longitude, which was successful and improved Quality. Should these values get even better?

Apologies for posting, but the setting up of this box is VERY un-intuitive and not catered for in the manufacturers instructions!!

Now windy again, so will be waiting until it calms down. Would significant movement of the dish due to wind affect the reception now and in the future?

[ramjet]

perhaps you are not actually pointed at thor on 0.8w , in which case you will not receive any thor channels if you are pointed at a different satellite

in any case, you should be trying to view FTA channels for now , until its setup , a manufacturers instructions assumes that the dish and motor are already setup by a competent person

the last instructions by dickb were aimed at setting it all up on 28.2e astra 2 instead of thor, so sly news from the satellite where sly uk comes from (same as all those other sly dishes)

and yes , the wind and the weather will always be a factor, the recent winds have knocked many a dish out of alignment , causing picture breakup or signal failures for many people , including me

[smurph]

Aha, that was one of my yet unanswered previous questions.....when I am setting up my box via USALS to a satellite, Thor in my case, and use a sound meter to detect the strongest signal, will it only sound when I point to that satellite? Think I need a pro! :-)

[ramjet]

not unless its a professional sat meter with the transponders programmed into it so it can tell you what it is receiving from an ident

a standard or cheap sat meter just tells you when you are receiving a signal, but does NOT tell you where that signal originates from

so I use a cheapo sat meter and a pre-programmed sat receiver plugged into a tv so when I am on a sat with the meter I can then check various FTA channels in order to tell me which satellite I am actually receiving , so if I was receiving an ident and sound and vision for "the vault" music channel I would be aware that my dish was pointing at 28e because that is the only place that channel comes from

[dick b]

Thanks dick b...channel list installed.
I have followed your previous USALS setup instructions [for satellite 0.8W Thor 3/5 ; 11785H 30000], and some of latest post, and get 75% green quality & 90% orange strength, but still can't view channels on Thor, any ideas?
Have tweaked the longitude, which was successful and improved Quality. Should these values get even better?

Apologies for posting, but the setting up of this box is VERY un-intuitive and not catered for in the manufacturers instructions!!

Now windy again, so will be waiting until it calms down. Would significant movement of the dish due to wind affect the reception now and in the future?

the TP on 0.8W should be 10.778 H 24500 for BBC World NOT 11785 H 30000 I have no channels on that TP therefore you will get signal as its active but no picture. But I think it may be easier for you to follow my 28.2E instructions.it has to be said the protek is not the best box for setting up from scratch but it can be done.

[smurph]

At last eventually got there, after storms and a failing mounting arm, have used T&K brackets etc. and got a guy to tune it, with use of a gauge.
Now having an issue trying to find the hidden menu on the Protek 9750, a friend who has came down and it doesn't appear, we have done a lengthy restore factory defaults and re-tuned channels....any ideas?