No signal from a motorized dish

[Meyouall]

help! No signal with motorized dish- VU+4k- (SOLVED)

Hej everyone,

I get no signal at all after installing the dish and connected it with the HH moteck motor and my VU+ 4k receiver. The LNB attached to the dish is a duo quad (19.2E astra and 23.5 astra). I have connected the four cables from the LNB with a 4 way splitter (NOT diseqc switch) and of course one port of the splitter is connected to the motor.

What am i doing wrong here? how am getting no signal at all?

***Solution***
- replaced the duo quad lnb with a single lnb.
- removed the splitter. directly connected the lnb to the motor and motor with the receiver with coax cable.
- aimed the dish and motor in one single line towards true south which i found through dishpointer dot com. True south is extremely importanted!!!!!!
- had to correct my elevation (of the dish) from 22.5 (calculated based on the manual) to 23 degrees as shown in dishpointer website and this is the elevation which helps in giving good signal.
- The deviation caused by the motor (as stated in some of my posts in this thread) were caused because i hadn't aimed the whole system to due/true south and of course because my location isn't at 0 degrees longitude.

I hope my experience and this thread will help others who (may) have issues as i had.
I thank everyone who supported and helped me here!!!

Cheers!!

[maca]

Ooops have a little read of this http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...motorised-dish

[Meyouall]

Ooops have a little read of this http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...motorised-dish

Thanks for ur reply. I have read this already. I have installed it mostly the way it is explained here. I still have the issue of no signal whatsoever.

[fatbob46]

You have a monoblock lnb with a diseqc switch inside going to another switch, it isn't going to work, and is not necessary if you have a motor.
Change your lnb to a single quad or see this site; http://www.trackdish.com/install-mon...diseqc-switch/
Google "monoblock lnb with separate diseqc switch"

[Meyouall]

this (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Quad-Astra-.../dp/B006WO1DB8) is the LNB with 4 outputs which I am using at the moment.

I see now that I had confused a diseqc switch with a splitter. Actually I am using a 4 way splitter between the lnbs and the motor. This is the switch I use:https://goo.gl/images/cIThkB
i will edit my initial post above as well by replacing diseqc switch with splitter

What if I directly connect (removing the switch) one of the lnbs to the motor? This would do the trick cuz it is the same as having a single LNB on the dish, right?

[ramjet]

yes , remove the splitter is it cannot be used on your system , also do not use a diseqc switch either as it will confuse matters

you can fit a single output lnb , twin output lnb or quad output lnb on your dish , so each feed is fed separately down to the sat box or boxes

the main lnb feed goes from the lnb directly to the motor, then from the motor DIRECTLY to the sat box

any slave boxes are connected from a multiple output lnb direct to each box , bypassing the motor

[fatbob46]

It may do, but how would you know which of the two heads was active, and would the motor feed try to switch the two lnbs?

Edit; don't waste your time, follow Ramjet's advice.

[Meyouall]

I am gonna buy a single LNB soon and replace it with duo LNB on the dish but isn't there a way that I could use one of the lnbs of this duo/dual LNB I already have?

[ramjet]

I am gonna buy a single LNB soon and replace it with duo LNB on the dish but isn't there a way that I could use one of the lnbs of this duo/dual LNB I already have?

not if its a monoblock , no

[Meyouall]

not if its a monoblock , no

I provided a link to the LNB I use. Is that considered a monoblock?

[ramjet]

yes, it says so too (so has a built in diseqc switch)

just do as we tell you and buy and use a single output , twin output or quad output lnb on your motorised dish

[Meyouall]

I Will do that and share the results here.

[Meyouall]

Hej guys!

Today I had some time to play with the satellite system. I attached a single LNB to the dish and aligned everything once again.

I STILL have issues. I get nothing on signal strength and signal quality. I must say that a few days ago I tried fixing it and i got like 13 channels on Astra 19.2 then in order to improve the signal quality i slowly moved the dish. I saw like 2% improvement in signal strength and signal quality jumped from 0 to 20% but when i tried to slowly rotate the motor on the pole. I lost all those signals. As instructed in the video and elsewhere I didn't loose the bolts which attached the dish to the motor, so the dish was firmly attached to the motor.

Now, not only i have no signal whatsoever but also when i move the dish with the receiver (USAL method) for example to HOTBIRD 13.0E the motor takes it to 10.0E, like 3 degrees shorter. The same with other satellites. I did a reset on the motor, that didn't help. Besides my solo 4k, My LG tv got a tuner as well, even with that the motor doesnt move to the position which it receives from the tuner. I should say that right before this problem, I readjusted everything (elevation, declination etc). Previously I had set the latitude on the motor at 51 (with decimals it is 51.8258). So this time i rounded off this number to 52 and the decimals of the longitude from ,69 to ,7 and adjusted the motor accordingly. could this be causing this craziness?

I have uploaded some photos to let you guys see if i have done things correctly when it comes to the hardware part. Here is the link: https://imageshack.com/a/McFM/1

[den1]

Start again & set the system up on (1w) using SKY NEWS 12418V 28000, swing the whole system around to (1w), set the motor at appox 28' & 25' for the dish, if you have got a portable TV use this to aid your set up while tweaking the dish to find the best signal. Set to USAL & the rest should fall into place,(you may have to tweak the dish a few times to get it correct) when it is done it will be worth it.

Hope this helps

DEN

[Meyouall]

Start again & set the system up on (1w) using SKY NEWS 12418V 28000, swing the whole system around to (1w), set the motor at appox 28' & 25' for the dish, if you have got a portable TV use this to aid your set up while tweaking the dish to find the best signal. Set to USAL & the rest should fall into place,(you may have to tweak the dish a few times to get it correct) when it is done it will be worth it.

Hope this helps

DEN

Perhaps I have to select a different satellite near to my longititude (4,69) e.g. Astra 1 4.8E.
But what u have said, would that solve the problem of the deviation of around +3 degrees when it receives a command from the receiver to move to a certain satellite?