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  • supercatic4
    Newbie
    • Feb 2010
    • 11

    #1

    Will my rusty dish be ok?

    Total noob alert.

    I have finally decided to get into this satellite lark. I want to subscribe to polsat/cymfra+. I have ordered a Vu+ Duo and am looking into the dish options. Not much budget left. I have a sly minidish on the wall and also on the chimney I have 80cm? rusty looking dish.

    I have attached some pics, a few questions:

    1. Will this dish do a job?

    Not sure about motorised or fixed, any advice would be appreciated.

    2. Not sure if I have understood properly but, if I get a monoblock lnb, will this pick up 2/3 satellites and at the same time be cheaper than going down the motorised route?

    3. Is it really worth going motorised? 1000's of channels in foreign languages or can you get Discovery and History type channels for free?

    Sorry for the newbie questions.
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  • firestorm
    V.I.P. Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 1550

    #2
    by the looks of it the weather has got the best of it so to be safe i would get a new dish as you are going to have to go on the roof to move it to 13e as it will be most probably pointing at 28e and the lnb will be shot at as well.
    As for the motor its well worth the extra cost for the other sat you will pick as you know the box you are buying is capable of great things when it comes to opening channels
    If you tremble with indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine

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    • mdt
      V.I.P. Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 3034

      #3
      hi, going off your pictures it looks like you have a old 54cm s*y analogue dish which will be on 19.2e. underneath is a zone2 65cm mini-dish which looks like its on hotbird and then your s*y zone 1 mini-dish on 28,2 east. you will need to either get a new universal quad lnb for the 54cm on astra1 and then a switch for all 3 dish,s or just use the zone2 dish and get a mono-block for 19.2/13. the dish doesnt look that bad and ive seen a lot worse condition dish,s that still work. regards mdt
      DM800HDSE SIM 2.10. SSL84D OPEN-ATV ORBITAL 80CM/DARK MOTOR/IBU/53E-30W

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      • supercatic4
        Newbie
        • Feb 2010
        • 11

        #4
        I thought it was a 80cm!!!

        Thanks for the info guys, I thought that was a 80cm on the chimney!!

        Originally posted by mdt
        hi, going off your pictures it looks like you have a old 54cm s*y analogue dish which will be on 19.2e. underneath is a zone2 65cm mini-dish which looks like its on hotbird and then your s*y zone 1 mini-dish on 28,2 east. you will need to either get a new universal quad lnb for the 54cm on astra1 and then a switch for all 3 dish,s or just use the zone2 dish and get a mono-block for 19.2/13. the dish doesnt look that bad and ive seen a lot worse condition dish,s that still work. regards mdt
        The 54cm (top one) isn't mine but i'm sure the neighbour doesnt use it. If I had feeds from 19.2E 13E & 28.2E have I got all bases covered for a noob or is it still advisable to go for a new motorised dish?


        Originally posted by firestorm
        As for the motor its well worth the extra cost for the other sat you will pick as you know the box you are buying is capable of great things when it comes to opening channels

        Are you suggesting to motorise the one on the wall (lowest down)? I had slyHD multiroom being fed from this so it is still wired up. Sounds cheaper. Cheaper is good! What could i recieve from this? I am in North West England.

        I honestly dont know what the box is capable of yet! I have yet to find this info. I thought to start with the basics. I have heard a lot about the box but it will be my first box so its going to be a steep learning curve.

        Thanks for the help and advice.

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        • mdt
          V.I.P. Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 3034

          #5
          hi, if you are spending 400 quid on a vu+ then id say get a brand new 85/88cm dish and usals motor to go with it and then mount it on the wall next to the 43cm mini-dish. you can get a 88cm triax,tm2600 and 0.1 lnb for around 120 quid. you could do some testing on the zone2 dish and 28.2 dish untill you have the cash for the motorised system and as for what your vu+ can do well with a bb connection/router and a great deal of reading/learning you will be amazed at what it can do. looking at your pics you should be able to get at minimum 30e-30 west although 26e/4w and 7w require a massive dish. regards mdt
          DM800HDSE SIM 2.10. SSL84D OPEN-ATV ORBITAL 80CM/DARK MOTOR/IBU/53E-30W

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          • cactikid
            V.I.P. Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 12017

            #6
            better off getting a new dish and if ya go motorized new lnbs,wondering if his cable is good also as in sealed ends.

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            • supercatic4
              Newbie
              • Feb 2010
              • 11

              #7
              Thanks MDT,

              Originally posted by mdt
              hi, if you are spending 400 quid on a vu+ then id say get a brand new 85/88cm dish and usals motor to go with it and then mount it on the wall next to the 43cm mini-dish. you can get a 88cm triax,tm2600 and 0.1 lnb for around 120 quid.
              If I mounted the new dish on my wall (not chimney), would it not be too big? never mind the missus the neighbours would go mental.

              I take it the TM motors are good/recommended, and also I would need a twin lnb type device? I have also read about the Dark motors being good.

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              • dick b
                V.I.P. Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 2462

                #8
                you can put up to a 1mt dish with out problems and also keep a sky dish (or any other up to 60cm) but thats all any others should come down.but if you stick to the regs the neighbors cant say anything (I dont know about the missus though).
                TM motors are fine,if you fit a twin lnb it also will be fine but only one box will control the motor so you have to have both boxes on the same sat.if you only use one box at a time you can use loop though and have full motor control at both boxes,the 1st box must be on standby for the 2nd box to work like this though.I wouldnt even consider putting a motorised dish on a chimney.
                Last edited by dick b; 7 August, 2010, 13:08.

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                • supercatic4
                  Newbie
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 11

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dick b
                  you can put up to a 1mt dish with out problems and also keep a sky dish (or any other up to 60cm) but thats all any others should come down.but if you stick to the regs the neighbors cant say anything (I dont know about the missus though).
                  TM motors are fine,if you fit a twin lnb it also will be fine but only one box will control the motor so you have to have both boxes on the same sat.if you only use one box at a time you can use loop though and have full motor control at both boxes,the 1st box must be on standby for the 2nd box to work like this though.I wouldnt even consider putting a motorised dish on a chimney.
                  I am going mental at the moment, choosing to go motorised or multi-lnb bracket. I am definately changing the dish to a 90cm or 100cm one and placing under the gutterline.

                  If i go motorised can i really make the use of a twin-tuner reciever?
                  If I go multi-lnb, can i choose 4 fixed sats and be happy with them?

                  Got a survey next week, so meanwhile any comments/suggestions would be welcome.

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                  • andiewill
                    DK Veteran
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 490

                    #10
                    If i go motorised can i really make the use of a twin-tuner reciever?
                    If I go multi-lnb, can i choose 4 fixed sats and be happy with them?
                    Motorised in my opinion and yes you could make use of the twin tuner if you want ? but a motorised set up you can skip through satellites with ease once set up, which i think would be esier than a multi lnb, correct me if im wrong guys as i have not set one up but i have set up a motor and all is fine and dandy.

                    ITgate TGM220 (swapable tuner), Dreambox 800 pro, Dreambox 500c x 2, DBox, Popbox media player.

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                    • supercatic4
                      Newbie
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 11

                      #11
                      I am I right in saying with a motorised dish and twin tuner, I can only record off the same satellite I am watching?

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                      • firestorm
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1550

                        #12
                        Originally posted by supercatic4
                        I am I right in saying with a motorised dish and twin tuner, I can only record off the same satellite I am watching?
                        yes but i also have a box with twin tunners(infact 4) and what i have done is used 1 tunner to my motor and the other one to a fixed sky dish then i can recored corrie for the wife and what football on a diffrent sat
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                        • supercatic4
                          Newbie
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 11

                          #13
                          Originally posted by firestorm
                          yes but i also have a box with twin tunners(infact 4) and what i have done is used 1 tunner to my motor and the other one to a fixed sky dish then i can recored corrie for the wife and what football on a diffrent sat
                          Intresting.

                          Remove rusty dish and get a Triax TD64 with multi-lnb holder on chimney to pick up: 13E 19E 28E

                          This would leave me wanting 39E and 26E for which I could use a Triax TD88 either motorised or multi-lnb. Is this viable?

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                          • dick b
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 2462

                            #14
                            it looks from your pic you should be able to get most sats from a motorised set up you can check this useing Satellite Finder / Dish Pointing Calculator with Google Maps | DishPointer.com. only you know if you will be satisfied with a fixed dish and several lnbs but you can get all available sats with just 1 cable with a motor and use another dish for sats you want to stay on permanently.once set up properly motorised setups are so easy to use I use from 39E to 30W most nights til I find a film to watch.and have a 60cm dish set on 28.2/5E for my wifes sky.only the prime sat on a multi lnb setup will get max signal although wave frontier dishes(expensive) are said to overcome this.
                            Last edited by dick b; 8 August, 2010, 13:45.

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                            • supercatic4
                              Newbie
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 11

                              #15
                              Just a quick update.

                              I picked up a Triax TD64 and a 4 LNB holder along with 3 cheap Icecrypt LNB's today. 4-way Disecq switch is on its way. I am going to replace the the rusty dish and put up the new one with the view of picking up 13E and 19E.

                              The lnb holder has 4 brackets and I will have a free port on the 4-way switch so i bought an extra lnb just in case I can pick up 23E or 28E, on either the new dish or my existing sky dish.

                              See how it goes and may add a motorised setup later.

                              Any thoughts or words on encouragement?

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