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  • chavslav
    Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 99

    #1

    looking for good system for pub football..

    no spiderbox please as i've heard bad reports on freezing glitches etc, definitely not tring, i've heard some cards have expired already,and sky calcio too dear, any other options please, cheers
    1 metre dish,tm 5400ci super,tm 1500ci super,dreambox500s(currently a harsh learning curve)..
  • alunfennell
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    • Oct 2008
    • 1525

    #2
    Well if its for a Pub in the UK or ROI, you will get a Visit from NDS / Sky officials at some stage who have to power currently to proceed with a Leagle injunction against you for public broadcasting Premiership Football from a foreign provider.

    If you are a resident or Bar/Club owner on Continental Europe Spain, France, Germany NDS / Sky, D+ & Canal+ officials activaly seek Cross border Public & Private viewing from Providers outside of the sate or Jurastiction there cards are been Viewed in.

    Untill The EU make a final ruling later this year on Cross border Viewing cards for commericial & Private use is against the Law, for the moment if you are a pub /Club owner subscribe to the provider within your Jurastiction (eg: Sky) as It could cost you far more in Leagle Fees.

    Once you are paying for a Subscription in UK/ ROI , Sky/NDS officials will still visit to see if you are breaking terms and conditions such as C/S to different Television sets within your Bar or other locations (1 subscription per screen), Multipal screen viewing cost more, Sky/NDS check this from time to time with investigators or Pub Spys.

    It would be very unwise to go down this road if you are a Pub/Club owner as a Subscription can be Tax deductible as an operational cost or ovehead of your business as the cost of a Sky Subscription depends on the size of the Bar or Club.
    Last edited by alunfennell; 23 August, 2010, 23:55.
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    • chavslav
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      • Aug 2010
      • 99

      #3
      Originally posted by alunfennell
      Well if its for a Pub in the UK or ROI, you will get a Visit from NDS / Sky officials at some stage who have to power currently to proceed with a Leagle injunction against you for public broadcasting Premiership Football from a foreign provider.

      If you are a resident or Bar/Club owner on Continental Europe Spain, France, Germany NDS / Sky, D+ & Canal+ officials activaly seek Cross border Public & Private viewing from Providers outside of the sate or Jurastiction there cards are been Viewed in.

      Untill The EU make a final ruling later this year on Cross border Viewing cards for commericial & Private use is against the Law, for the moment if you are a pub /Club owner subscribe to the provider within your Jurastiction (eg: Sky) as It could cost you far more in Leagle Fees.

      Once you are paying for a Subscription in UK/ ROI , Sky/NDS officials will still visit to see if you are breaking terms and conditions such as C/S to different Television sets within your Bar or other locations (1 subscription per screen), Multipal screen viewing cost more, Sky/NDS check this from time to time with investigators or Pub Spys.

      It would be very unwise to go down this road if you are a Pub/Club owner as a Subscription can be Tax deductible as an operational cost or ovehead of your business as the cost of a Sky Subscription depends on the size of the Bar or Club.

      the pub n question still has an skysports package in HD,An over the years has run sky and foreign subscriptions side by side, too my knowledge the've never had a visit ,because of probabybeg on the list with a sky sports package..

      how expensive is calcio now? canal sport etc...is abu dubia sports viewable in uk, does anyone have these systems set up,and is there a london based installer on the forum?
      1 metre dish,tm 5400ci super,tm 1500ci super,dreambox500s(currently a harsh learning curve)..

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      • tvadict
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        • Jul 2009
        • 363

        #4
        calcio is the best of them all. with english commentary

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        • .: JaCkPoT :.
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          • Aug 2008
          • 5607

          #5
          Originally posted by chavslav
          the pub n question still has an skysports package in HD,An over the years has run sky and foreign subscriptions side by side, too my knowledge the've never had a visit ,because of probabybeg on the list with a sky sports package..

          how expensive is calcio now? canal sport etc...is abu dubia sports viewable in uk, does anyone have these systems set up,and is there a london based installer on the forum?
          I know an installer in reading who will go to london if its on the side closer to him.. he has a massive company and does alot of installing, check out his work on his site, you will be impressed.. Katey Price had her property wired by his company
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          • ITS A SCAM !
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            • Oct 2008
            • 1140

            #6
            Originally posted by .: JaCkPoT :.
            Katey Price had her property wired by his company
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            Katy Price needs bloody rewiring !! What a plastic fantastic moo she is ( not )........

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            • arnie303
              Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 42

              #7
              I have had a pub for 12 years and have seen sky prices rocket in that time from 2,000 to 12,000
              I gave sky the elbow after sky took over the scottish premier league rights and they forced the SPL games to ko at 12 noon on sundays before the pubs opened at 12 30
              When Setanta had the rights it was a 2pm ko
              now every game involving Rangers and Celtic up to xmas the ko is early

              I have Sky italia and total cost to me for one year is ?1000 that included reciever point your dish to 13e and your up and running
              I will keep it till the ECJ rules it is illegal if you do not use non european cards or show 3pms you will be left alone as it is still a grey area at the moment most convictions are for domestic and Albanian cards or cardsharing

              It is a game of cat and mouse till the european court verdict due at the end of year if it rules in sky's favour then afraid that For the majority of uk pubs its the end of the line for pub football
              Last edited by arnie303; 25 August, 2010, 12:58.

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              • ITS A SCAM !
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                • Oct 2008
                • 1140

                #8
                It will be sad times for all those who go to the pub to watch footy on a saturday afternoon @ 3pm if its deemed to be illegal.....I recon all those who are doing c/s at home will be getting loads more friends then ??

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                • arnie303
                  Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 42

                  #9
                  I used to show 3pms when I had sky uk and also a foreign satellite system I never got bothered once so they turn a blind eye as long as you are on their database and giving them their ?1000 a month subscription

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                  • .: JaCkPoT :.
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                    • Aug 2008
                    • 5607

                    #10
                    Originally posted by arnie303
                    I used to show 3pms when I had sky uk and also a foreign satellite system I never got bothered once so they turn a blind eye as long as you are on their database and giving them their ?1000 a month subscription
                    All they want is their money, once they get it, tey dont give a sh1t what else you do

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                    • Manic01
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 5117

                      #11
                      Not 100% true, my mates jsut left his pub to emigrate to Brazil. Before that he had local pub with 2 subs costing total of ?1800 per month, also he had diema card and digitalb card.
                      he had a visit just before he left from MPS, this was not the first time either and also had a letter from FACT before.
                      Luckily I had just removed the kit

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                      • firestorm
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                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1550

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ellisharris
                        The best box is the technomate 7100 HD in my opinion, with a 1m sat dish and some card sharing from xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and you should be laughing mate.
                        Yep you will be laughing all the way to jail
                        Please do not post links to payservers on this site
                        Last edited by firestorm; 25 August, 2010, 06:43.
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                        • ITS A SCAM !
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                          • Oct 2008
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by firestorm
                          Yep you will be laughing all the way to jail
                          Please do not post links to payservers on this site
                          If these payservers are going to jail, why are they still operating ? This particular one he has linked has its website going for a couple of years now. I am not defending them, and neither do i use them.....but they are not being taken down. The only ones you really hear about are in your local newspaper.....Nothing really big seems to be affected.

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                          • firestorm
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                            • Jul 2008
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                            #14
                            They will be in some country outside the eu in order to avoid prosicution
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                            • .: JaCkPoT :.
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                              • Aug 2008
                              • 5607

                              #15
                              Originally posted by firestorm
                              They will be in some country outside the eu in order to avoid prosicution
                              Loads of payservers are based in Iran < ,

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