TM 800 Progect FAIL and lost the way!

[bobi]

Itgate is a brand name, not a receiver manufacturer.

just like technomate and clarke tech are brand names, just like spiderbox and mvision are brand names

if mvision decided to stop selling boxes, would that mean the end of the spiderbox? no, if spiderbox stopped selling, the mvision would keep going as well, howevwer, if the factory producing them was to fold, then BOTH would be forced to stop selling

the brand name means nothing

I have Told you even in mesage, but you still keep talk some think you do not or misleading people.
Like that you show you devotion to TM owners ...Good for you
God Bless YOU.You will get nice discount trade next time to sell more cheaper..

But please tell people truth...


It GATE = DAGS ) and same time their fist production name..
This is from many years.

This is the reality .....read


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For your Info TM is OEM BRAND... ( maybe no idea if they put eny money for shares this is not my business.)


IF ItGate can not develop and product proper Box for that Certain Model mean TM can not have it.... That every simple...and i do not understand why you like complicate...


is only one way T to have that product...To have their own development ....they never had ....and send that development to another Manufacture will produce and develop that model better ,but that will request much money and Time...That mean TM need another 12 m.to have back the product in the end is not the end of the world some sort of copy Dreambox.



For that TM has announce between you New Two Models...in December ,because NOW they have to tun the head in difent CPU and if they fight with It gate they have to find difent Manufacture to TRUST...

That can be dangers for them to TIME COST MONEY and Reputation...but this still is their problem not my ,just i let people know what the real thinks are...Full stop.

[digidude]

I have Told you even in mesage, but you still keep talk some think you do not or misleading people.
Like that you show you devotion to TM owners ...Good for you
God Bless YOU.You will get nice discount trade next time to sell more cheaper..

But please tell people truth...


It GATE = DAGS ) and same time their fist production name..
This is from many years.

This is the reality .....read


C-510, Woolim Lion?s Valley, 371-28, Gasan Dong, Geumcheon Ku, Seoul, Korea 153-786
TEL) +822 2026 3090
FAX) +822 2026 3091

- It`s the Gate to your world - ITGATE -



For your Info TM is OEM BRAND... ( maybe no idea if they put eny money for shares this is not my business.)


IF ItGate can not develop and product proper Box for that Certain Model mean TM can not have it.... That every simple...and i do not understand why you like complicate...


is only one way T to have that product...To have their own development ....they never had ....and send that development to another Manufacture will produce and develop that model better ,but that will request much money and Time...That mean TM need another 12 m.to have back the product in the end is not the end of the world some sort of copy Dreambox.



For that TM has announce between you New Two Models...in December ,because NOW they have to tun the head in difent CPU and if they fight with It gate they have to find difent Manufacture to TRUST...

That can be dangers for them to TIME COST MONEY and Reputation...but this still is their problem not my ,just i let people know what the real thinks are...Full stop.

Not as much as industrial espionage could damage a reputation though. Like ive told you before, it makes no difference to me if TM, sky, you, anyone goes bust.

when i found that the spiderbox was 'sending' signals, i was attacked from all angles, called all sorts of liars, and accused of making trouble, yet you want everyone to know the 'truth'? ive since been in touch with a network analyst, who is fascinated by some of the things hes found

but thats off topic, and i know how much you dont like that

surely IF this was a problem for TM owners, which i cant see it being, afterall, the DM500 production was stopped years ago, yet the eagle seems to do fine, right? but if it was an issue for TM owners, then surely its for TM to make a proper, informative announcement, instead of a half story about another company just to shake things up, dont you think?

it makes no real difference to me personally, its just the motive behind the ethics of it all that could be highly questionable, especially if it turns out to be true

[freck]

Will the real Darkman please stand up
Get over it...TM800HD is gone down the tube....TM500 super now launched...new mini look.
Great reading this thread tho
Freck

[alunfennell]

Well Im not surprised ! There has been an infiltration over the past few months actively coming in from our old Albanian friends over @ Alsat and other online shops linked to Alsat, who are doing nothing more than advertising & peddling there warez by rubbishing many receivers supported across many different threads here on DK & openly reffering certain receivers which these people are heavly invested in especially with the down fall of the cable scene.

witchy2k1 You are only waisting yor time arguing, becuse multiple login's are used to undermine your views if you persist as I have found out myself, if you hit the nail on the head, which by all accounts you have !

Time to get out the old DDoS attack pack again ......

[jcum]

how do i download the files for eurovox ?

[mdt]

how do i download the files for eurovox ?

have a look in the downloads section! odds are you have gone n3 which means "no more free cable" regards mdt

[C64]

He is NOT darkman , I know him .

Well you don't know him very well then do you!

[bobi]

Itgate is a brand name, not a receiver manufacturer.

just like technomate and clarke tech are brand names, just like spiderbox and mvision are brand names

if mvision decided to stop selling boxes, would that mean the end of the spiderbox? no, if spiderbox stopped selling, the mvision would keep going as well, howevwer, if the factory producing them was to fold, then BOTH would be forced to stop selling

the brand name means nothing

If you do not have the EYE To see or to read ,,,that is not my fault !

But more then eye you do not have Honesty m8..if you are honest you do not talk like that....


C-510, Woolim Lion?s Valley, 371-28, Gasan Dong, Geumcheon Ku, Seoul, Korea 153-786
TEL) +822 2026 3090
FAX) +822 2026 3091

- It`s the Gate to your world - ITGATE -

if they stop produsing or developening ITGATE maen No more TM 800 ...no no more All TM boxes...
TM 500 is Hubteck nothink to do thi it...

Do not try change thisnk with IT gate is or not is OEM....

You even can says > IT gate is OEM but is MANUFACTURE OEM...If they fock they Beby they do not care abot TM...
IT gate progect is biger then TM progect...

But read carfully 2000 Pz TM has recoll back

Please do not do me to nominate many dealers they send back the stuff ,please stop before i go farther....


This is from sales of The manufatre
months agou....they targert


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TEL) +822 2026 3090
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fromsales <[email protected]>
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date16 March 2010 08:43
subjectRE: It gate HD Linux Stb
hide details 16 Mar



Dear @@@,


Our HD box is Linux HD with enigma2,which is under development
& our target for sample release is end of April.
When we are ready for the sample, I will let you know then.



BR,
Grant

[bobi]

Will the real Darkman please stand up
Get over it...TM800HD is gone down the tube....TM500 super now launched...new mini look.
Great reading this thread tho
Freck

TM 500 super samme amnufature will have same way....of Tm 800


Can please TM stop Coping one time for all...


TM 500 - DM 500
TM 600- DM 600
TM 800 - DM 800
TM 500Super= DM 500 HD

here they copy Barnd Numbers of all Dreambox !

ENIGMA 2 PLI Dreambox and Vu+ DUO

PLI only them reconice Not any TM or It gate,.!?

TM 2600 - Motek Metal = Copy of Super Darkmotor ( this he sty 2-3 yeas later has big dificulties...

The enetrance of eny TM do not Harm eny business naw for me they are usless...i am sory i have support them more then every bady else ...here naw are TM devods and in that time has bullshit in TMs.

[joe6915]

TM 500 super samme amnufature will have same way....of Tm 800


Can please TM stop Coping one time for all...


TM 500 - DM 500
TM 600- DM 600
TM 800 - DM 800
TM 500Super= DM 500 HD

here they copy Barnd Numbers of all Dreambox !

ENIGMA 2 PLI Dreambox and Vu+ DUO

PLI only them reconice Not any TM or It gate,.!?

TM 2600 - Motek Metal = Copy of Super Darkmotor ( this he sty 2-3 yeas later has big dificulties...

The enetrance of eny TM do not Harm eny business naw for me they are usless...i am sory i have support them more then every bady else ...here naw are TM devods and in that time has bullshit in TMs.

This shows that it is darkman

[dick b]

for what its worth the official TM site have issued a statement on the tm800.perhaps we can go back to just helping people with their problems now.

[manxspud]

And here it is :

Rumours about the TM-800 HD Linux
24th July 2010
There have been some rumours concerning the TM-800 HD Linux.

TM-800 sales and development are going strong. We are expanding into linux receivers very strongly and making sure our customers are fully satisfied.

3,000 units have been sold successfully since launch with another 4,000 units coming within August, followed by an extra 6,000 units by the end of September.

These rumours are 100% false and the fabrication of some worried competitors as they fear losing their business because of the success of the TM-800.

Please contact our Head Office if you have any questions.

@manx

[bobi]

This shows that it is darkman

Who find who i am is very clever and will win the Lotery...


I do not never says who i am and who i can be ...do not mater i am or not darkman i am praud to let tell people the truth...

The people donot read or listen or competitors they stay bihand stupid thinks that what is the real Thread..

[bobi]

for what its worth the official TM site have issued a statement on the tm800.perhaps we can go back to just helping people with their problems now.

many people before has shit to Technomate and says many think more bad then this...

Why TM has put to their web site !?

the Answer is very simple .

That mean is so much serious because is a Truth

Ah the goods are in the seas Beck 2000 pz do not let me know tell even the day they gone back and which shipment...

The main think is not what technomate Deaned but the real problem 2000pz been send back mean big deal...Tm says they sold 3000 PZ ?

ha ha
really big lier's until 1 month ago they did not release no Box only some "developers" or Short way Carboys Installiers...The most dealers in UK they have send the stock back....

Eurosat...Satworld.....DRS .... CR SAtellite..and more and more... and many did even got one...

haw they sold 3000pz in MARS or JUPITER ..

common people be serouse...is more the Hornets says : we tray our best ,we did not live our costumers douwn...we could gave money back why they says...but in this project we FAIL...becouse we are no one to develop we are under Engines of It gate .if they can we can not ...
This is what TM should gave statements to their costumers ...i think coustemmers will respect more and with saying OK their try their best but not always thinks going good in development in money and bla bla...and will fill more sorry for them to buy next time...

[Mathos]

As some of us are aware, this report is verified and is not the result of rumour mongering as has been suggested. It is also well known that the reports of units sold is highly exaggerated, and that many dealers have returned their unsold and unsaleable stock.
There are a few diehard TM users who will defend any TM box to the death, and that's their prerogative but for many users who just want their receivers to work with the expected functions of Enigma2, this box is going to be a disappointment.

Reading from the Technomate site, one sees:

TM-800 HD Linux
19th June 2010
Due to high demand of the TM-800 HD Linux,
we have sold out of stock. Stock will be available from around 15th July 2010. Our apologies for the inconvenience.

This unfortunately translates in reality to

Due to the failure of the ITgate engineers to finish the project, 2000 pieces have been sent back to Korea.

The 15th July date is significant in that Technomate is shut down at that date and there is nobody to take any orders.

reading a later announcement:

3,000 units have been sold successfully since launch with another 4,000 units coming within August, followed by an extra 6,000 units by the end of September.

No more TM 800 receivers will be therefore available until August/September. What happened to July 15th? One has to deduce that there are no more receivers coming soon and that TM is deflecting buyers away from the bad news.

To those of you considering buying these boxes, the best advice at this time is to look elsewhere. You won't be able to get one for some time anyway.

TM MD, if you are reading this. please come clean for the sake of your own reputation and for the sake of the hobby in general.