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  • ekkostar
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 44

    #61
    Originally posted by septicsmurf
    When I bought my clone the original was ?349 from world of satellite!
    We're talking beginning of the year.
    I've got the email from them in my inbox.
    Just checked my cc bill and the clone was ?187 delivered.
    Right now the Ultimo can be had from ?339 through to ?499. It pays to shop around and what you compare.

    Bottom line is Duo clone is junk. There was a few people raving about it, including dare I say some who should know better.

    I'm not sure any receiever where connectors and cables are inserted incorrectly, psu's that are potential fire hazards, can in any shape or form be a sensible or indeed viable option to consider.

    As for Dream clones they're slightly differenet. Given the orignal receivers were priced double or treble their prices, the cloners have had more margin to be able to refine a product.

    A DM800HDSE can be had for well under ?200 whilst the Original is ?430. The cloners have had enough there to clone to an acceptable quality and still offer a commercially viable product.

    The VU+ Duo's on the other hand were very keenly priced to begin with. Trying to replicate dual tuner machines and knock ?100 off, means cutting all sorts of corners in the QS dept. It's no wonder Ferrari no longer want to know...they've fathered a clone of clones war...
    Last edited by ekkostar; 31 August, 2012, 15:41.

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    • septicsmurf
      DK Veteran
      • Feb 2012
      • 401

      #62
      Originally posted by gaz1968
      I to have had the problem with it not driving the motor so I got a free psu replacement off the supplier and that still doesn't drive it. It only drives to a desired sattelite when I restart the box its driving me mad.

      Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
      I have that problem as well. I've had 2 receivers (v1 and v2), the supplier sent me a replacement when the first one wouldn't drive the motor.
      I'm now on my 3rd power supply and still no joy.
      Someone mentioned a possible incompatibility issue with clones and dark motor.

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      • digicon
        V.I.P. Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 8261

        #63
        Originally posted by ekkostar
        The disparity was never that much. The Duo's have not been ?349 for a long, long time and certainly not since the clones started surfacing.

        When the clones were ?200-210 originals could be had for ?299. When the price of clones was ?180 the orginals could be picked up for ?280.

        For the sake of ?80-100, there's nothing much to rave about and plenty to rue.

        Yes you save money but at what cost.... the value of something is also equally the value of nothing... I guess you understand that now.

        No idea where you got the ?200-?210 for a clone, I got one when they first appeared Batch 1 so to speak and i paid ?170 delivered if you look around and shop smartly that is. The originals where still priced at ?329 so quite a healthy saving over an original.

        Mine worked fine i did numerous tests with it the post of the test is still available somewhere and i sold it on trouble free as well, The problems have surfaced in this new current batch which i would say steer well clear of.

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        • ekkostar
          Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 44

          #64
          Originally posted by digicon
          I got one when they first appeared Batch 1 so to speak and i paid ?170 delivered if you look around and shop smartly that is. The originals where still priced at ?329 so quite a healthy saving over an original.
          There is no such thing as shopping smartly for a 'Clone Duo'. It's a fallacy.

          The early ones had dodgy connectors, psu's, motor incompatibility.....add to that images are drying up and developers plugging the holes.

          The proof of the pudding is in the eating and the clones by all accounts are pretty much junk. You sold your's on soon enough, but not long enough to know otherwise....there's some irony in that

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          • digicon
            V.I.P. Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 8261

            #65
            Originally posted by ekkostar


            There is no such thing as shopping smartly for a 'Clone Duo'. It's a fallacy.

            The early ones had dodgy connectors, psu's, motor incompatibility.....add to that images are drying up and developers plugging the holes.

            The proof of the pudding is in the eating and the clones by all accounts are pretty much junk. You sold your's on soon enough, but not long enough to know otherwise....there's some irony in that

            Mate dont talk out of your arse until you own one you have not got a clue what your on about, Your not on AVforums now so stop preaching the shit clone spiel on here and let people make there own minds up

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            • septicsmurf
              DK Veteran
              • Feb 2012
              • 401

              #66
              It doesn't help anyone when someone comes on here going on about how stupid they were for buying a clone.
              It's more than paid for itself in the 6-7 months I've had it.
              Yes I do have to give the dish a nudge sometimes to get it to change sats, which takes all of about 10 seconds.
              I bought it for ?180, I'll probably sell it on for about ?100, so I'm still quids in.
              And I make the overall saving at about ?150-?160 when I bought my clone. That's nearly half price!
              Don't need people stirring it up.
              The title of the thread was about the clone replacement psu, not a lets have a go at anyone who's bought a clone.
              Last edited by septicsmurf; 31 August, 2012, 17:45.

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              • ekkostar
                Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 44

                #67
                Originally posted by digicon
                Mate dont talk out of your arse until you own one you have not got a clue what your on about, Your not on AVforums now so stop preaching the shit clone spiel on here and let people make there own minds up
                Everything I have said is factual...but I guess you knew that already

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                • ekkostar
                  Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 44

                  #68
                  Originally posted by septicsmurf
                  It doesn't help anyone when someone comes on here going on about how stupid they were for buying a clone.
                  It's more than paid for itself in the 6-7 months I've had it.
                  Yes I do have to give the dish a nudge sometimes to get it to change sats, which takes all of about 10 seconds.
                  I bought it for ?180, I'll probably sell it on for about ?100, so I'm still quids in.
                  And I make the overall saving at about ?150-?160 when I bought my clone. That's nearly half price!
                  Don't need people stirring it up.
                  The title of the thread was about the clone replacement psu, not a lets have a go at anyone who's bought a clone.

                  There are some that swear by them and others that swear at them.... will let you decide which camp you're in.

                  If you wish to persevere with it feel free to order a replacement PSU.

                  Personally I don't think they are much kop or worth it...each to their own.

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                  • benny/9
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1964

                    #69
                    Originally posted by ekkostar
                    Everything I have said is factual...but I guess you knew that already
                    **********************************************
                    i have own both clone and genuine vu duo's
                    and have never had any problems with either
                    and anouther member on this forum now has
                    the clone and he has'nt reported any problems either,
                    plus i think most of the psu problems have come with
                    the other people who are also making clone vu boxes
                    and not with the ferrari clones so much.
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                    the files available are kept for experimental & educational purpose only
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                    • ekkostar
                      Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 44

                      #70
                      Originally posted by benny/9
                      **********************************************
                      i have own both clone and genuine vu duo's
                      and have never had any problems with either
                      and anouther member on this forum now has
                      the clone and he has'nt reported any problems either,
                      plus i think most of the psu problems have come with
                      the other people who are also making clone vu boxes
                      and not with the ferrari clones so much.
                      Hi,

                      It's not really limited to the clone of the clones but the ferrari's also have had the same problems.

                      It's when they go wrong that people come to realise perhaps the value of why the genuine is the better buy. As long as everyone is aware what they are buying into. Ultimately the duo clones are rapidly being marginalised more far quicker than the Dream were.

                      Other than that, reading to to find someone who claims to know sat receivers recommending it, then subsequently advising steer clear smacks of more than a little hypocrisy...dare I say loss of credibility

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                      • septicsmurf
                        DK Veteran
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 401

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ekkostar
                        Hi,

                        It's not really limited to the clone of the clones but the ferrari's also have had the same problems.

                        It's when they go wrong that people come to realise perhaps the value of why the genuine is the better buy. As long as everyone is aware what they are buying into. Ultimately the duo clones are rapidly being marginalised more far quicker than the Dream were.

                        Other than that, reading to to find someone who claims to know sat receivers recommending it, then subsequently advising steer clear smacks of more than a little hypocrisy...dare I say loss of credibility
                        Like I said before. At ?180, my duo clone has more than paid for itself, and I will get something back for it when I decide to get a new stb.
                        I recently saw a clone, sold as for parts or not working, go for ?100 on fleabay. So people are still buying them, and for good reason too.
                        If I only had a sly uk dish I would never even have known that my psu was slightly underpowered.
                        In that case it would have been a brilliant buy. Other than not being ably to use the latest blackhole and vix images, which ferrari team are currently working on by the way, there would be hardly any difference between a clone and original.
                        Originals have also had their fair share of blown psu's, so it's not only clones that go bang.
                        It is also true that people never really say anything about it unless there is something wrong. So I would say there are thousands of people out there who have no problems at all with their clones, and are pleased with their purchase.
                        As for taking swipes at members on this forum, what is the point?
                        Hide behind your pc and have digs at people, when this forum is actually here to help people, not bring people down.
                        so why not open a beer, relax a bit, and quit the hating.

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                        • ekkostar
                          Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 44

                          #72
                          No hiding, no hating going on and happy to help.

                          You pays your money and you takes your choice. At ?180 if you take into consideration the known issues then it's not really that great a buy is it ?

                          Selling it on maybe a consolation and some form of recovery for you, but it doesn't disguise the issues.

                          At the end of the day, I personally wouldn't recommend a clone duo and for the increasing variety of issues to consider, couldn't really.

                          As for the other comments on this thread....well...people need to take a rain check...just reading some of the other threads, seems like humble pie is hard to swallow... they seem to have made an arse of themselves

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                          • benny/9
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1964

                            #73
                            Originally posted by ekkostar
                            No hiding, no hating going on and happy to help.

                            You pays your money and you takes your choice. At ?180 if you take into consideration the known issues then it's not really that great a buy is it ?

                            Selling it on maybe a consolation and some form of recovery for you, but it doesn't disguise the issues.

                            At the end of the day, I personally wouldn't recommend a clone duo and for the increasing variety of issues to consider, couldn't really.

                            As for the other comments on this thread....well...people need to take a rain check...just reading some of the other threads, seems like humble pie is hard to swallow... they seem to have made an arse of themselves
                            *************************************************
                            i can believe what i'm reading mate your on a forum
                            where most members use clone receivers, and now
                            your saying others have made arse's of themselves
                            one member in particular who posted back that you
                            are the one talking out of your arse, is a very well respected
                            on this forum. and he does know what he's talking about
                            with dishes/lnb's and most types of boxes original and clone
                            that i know he's tested so for me he's the one i would listen to.
                            so do you really think the members give a monkeys about your
                            rubbishing clones answers, your replies remind me of certain forums
                            where they ban if you dont do as they say etc: for me a forum is a
                            place to make friends, help advise and share freely. and if clone boxes
                            upset you that much why bother posting in threads about them
                            Please Read Carefully!
                            No Sky UK NDS Videoguard Hacking Discussions.
                            Viewing Pay TV without a valid subscription is illegal
                            the files available are kept for experimental & educational purpose only
                            original vu duo2 /vu zero/ tm-nano-se. v-box / 36v /1.2 dish,

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                            • septicsmurf
                              DK Veteran
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 401

                              #74
                              The other point to make is that for a newbie, as I was when I bought my clone.
                              Would I rather take the chance of bricking a ?330 reciever or a ?180 receiver?
                              Both look the same, more or less do the same, and have loads of support!
                              And as for people making an arse of themselves. Well I only see one person doing that!

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                              • ekkostar
                                Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 44

                                #75
                                Originally posted by benny/9
                                *************************************************
                                i can believe what i'm reading mate your on a forum
                                where most members use clone receivers, and now
                                your saying others have made arse's of themselves
                                one member in particular who posted back that you
                                are the one talking out of your arse, is a very well respected
                                on this forum. and he does know what he's talking about
                                with dishes/lnb's and most types of boxes original and clone
                                that i know he's tested so for me he's the one i would listen to.
                                so do you really think the members give a monkeys about your
                                rubbishing clones answers, your replies remind me of certain forums
                                where they ban if you dont do as they say etc: for me a forum is a
                                place to make friends, help advise and share freely. and if clone boxes
                                upset you that much why bother posting in threads about them
                                Either you don't believe what you are reading or perhaps it's more a case of you don't like what you are reading ?.... message and messenger

                                Given that the same member 'Digicon' is advising steering clear of the clones... which advice do you take now ? Also given that he sold it on and doesn't have one or had one for long anyway (isn't that correct?) it's a bit naive to say it was or is a well grounded or rounded evaluation.

                                The Duo clone does have problems, known fact. The Solo clone not so much, Dreambox 800/se clones not so much either.

                                At the end of the day you are forking out ?180 and my point is it should be an informed decision either way. You may save money over the intitial outlay on an an original. Allowing for the issues and frustrations it may however not be the best idea.

                                If none of my pioints striike any resonance with you then I'll simply refer you to the opening post of this thread by the OP.

                                Originally posted by septicsmurf
                                So I've been having problems driving my motor with the sh***y vu+ duo clone psu and have just about had enough.
                                I see they now sell clone psu replacements, but are they any good?
                                Has anyone here bought one and found them to be better than the ones they stuck in the stb, or are they the same old crap?
                                Could anyone recommend where to get one, preferably from the uk?
                                The other option would be to buy a genuine psu and stick that in my clone, but would they be compatible?
                                I don't mind spending ?25 more if it's going to sort it out once and for all.
                                just trying to nurse my clone along until the prism cube and duo2 are released so I can replace the heap of s**t I have now.
                                Thanks for your help.
                                ....that doesn't sound very endearing does it ?

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