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    All going well should be ordering mine moday, so will post up how i got on, ( Just for feedback )
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    Quote Originally Posted by DB_member View Post
    Would you mind posting a photo from the multiplexer circuit boards? There are different units, the low quality ones likely work too but never know how long and if you face issues with some specific tasks.

    Here you have a photo. Probably (99%) it is a clone, but works. Until when?.. I don't know but somebody can say how many time will work the original one?
    I will only use it for cars (no 24v).

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    Quote Originally Posted by grinich View Post
    Here you have a photo. Probably (99%) it is a clone, but works. Until when?.. I don't know but somebody can say how many time will work the original one?
    I will only use it for cars (no 24v).

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    This looks pretty much like my own multiplexer. Not the best quality I'm afraid, this cannot be used with 24 volts. I have used mine for over a year now and its worked just like it should have been, but only with cars. It cost just under 600 dollars. There are better ones available though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinich View Post
    Here you have a photo. Probably (99%) it is a clone, but works. Until when?.. I don't know but somebody can say how many time will work the original one?
    I will only use it for cars (no 24v).

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    See photos from Big-Systems here:
    http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...12/#post770488

    The mux is not original but this is how a good one should look like. I'm not saying your tool would be crap, I just don't know how good it is but it is made with one of the Chinese home made circuit board copies.

    It is so funny when I've asked a quote from most of the Chines sellers who attend this forum and everybody is selling the best quality and everybody knowns others are selling crap. When I insist on details, they consider me funny and claim I don't know enough about these (in any case not a good approach to convince a buyer).

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    I have such a device long enough,also worked on personal and commercial vehicles and must say that I am satisfied.The largest number of devices bought from AUTOKMFACTORY.Best regard.

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    Here are 3 pictures of clone multipelxer. you could have a look. Hope it be useful for you all.
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    I got 5 multiplexer in workshop, there is 1 cannot connect DAS or Xentry after 03/2010. There are 2 able to connect DAS 07/2010 but not Xentry 07/2010. And the remain 2 are prefect on DAS and Xentry. All Multiplexer are same outlook, but I am not sure what is the different inside it. I really hope all multiplexer can use 07/2010 DAS and Xentry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkinyan View Post
    I got 5 multiplexer in workshop, there is 1 cannot connect DAS or Xentry after 03/2010. There are 2 able to connect DAS 07/2010 but not Xentry 07/2010. And the remain 2 are prefect on DAS and Xentry. All Multiplexer are same outlook, but I am not sure what is the different inside it. I really hope all multiplexer can use 07/2010 DAS and Xentry.
    Thats the Massive issue, "they all look the same on the outside"
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    The mux from pictures,will not work long time with 24 V

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    Quote Originally Posted by grinich View Post
    Here you have a photo. Probably (99%) it is a clone, but works. Until when?.. I don't know but somebody can say how many time will work the original one?
    I will only use it for cars (no 24v).

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    I can't see, is there a small box in the middle of the cable between the PC and MB MUX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan View Post
    I can't see, is there a small box in the middle of the cable between the PC and MB MUX?
    The RS232 to RS485 converter often exists as fake, empty box. I've seen cables that were obviously built for the "C4" multiplexer that has D-type connectors and they add a short converter cable that makes this RS232 cable fit to the cheap C3 clone that has the round connector but no RS485 interface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan View Post
    I can't see, is there a small box in the middle of the cable between the PC and MB MUX?
    Yes, there is



    Quote Originally Posted by DB_member View Post
    The RS232 to RS485 converter often exists as fake, empty box. I've seen cables that were obviously built for the "C4" multiplexer that has D-type connectors and they add a short converter cable that makes this RS232 cable fit to the cheap C3 clone that has the round connector but no RS485 interface.
    In this case if I open the empty box I will find cable-to-cable connections without RS-485 interface because you say the mux clone works with rs232 protocol and a round connector which have the same cables than DB-9 connector... Is it correct?

    I will open it if you confirm this point.

    Many thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by grinich View Post

    In this case if I open the empty box I will find cable-to-cable connections without RS-485 interface because you say the mux clone works with rs232 protocol and a round connector which have the same cables than DB-9 connector... Is it correct?

    I will open it if you confirm this point.

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    This would be the case but you should see the difference if you have a look inside the multiplexer too.

    The dummy "converters" are often fastened to be difficult to open, not using standard screws. Obviously only to prevent buyers figure out what they got (the same with the mux, screws are likely sealed with warranty labels for the same reason).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB_member View Post
    This would be the case but you should see the difference if you have a look inside the multiplexer too.

    The dummy "converters" are often fastened to be difficult to open, not using standard screws. Obviously only to prevent buyers figure out what they got (the same with the mux, screws are likely sealed with warranty labels for the same reason).
    Here is the inside... focus is very bad, sorry.
    The screws were normal (philips) and the box is not 'wide'. I don't know if this configuration means the mux works with RS485 interface or not.

    What do you think about?

    Thanks in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinich View Post
    Here is the inside... focus is very bad, sorry.
    The screws were normal (philips) and the box is not 'wide'. I don't know if this configuration means the mux works with RS485 interface or not.

    What do you think about?

    Thanks in advance
    That is not dummy at all. Most likely your multiplexer is a good one too.

 

 
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