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tazman13
17th April, 2012, 02:57 PM
Seems I have a lot of work to do :( maybe scrap it off and get a newer version?

I don't have access to GAL programmer.

Thanks guys (and yes the soldering is crap)

bibkare
17th April, 2012, 03:44 PM
Seems I have a lot of work to do :( maybe scrap it off and get a newer version?

I don't have access to GAL programmer.

Thanks guys (and yes the soldering is crap)

you can do solution without gal but don't bother 'cause most probably your interface's fried, best solution is to buy new one based on ft232bl

KenshinPT
17th April, 2012, 04:52 PM
you can do solution without gal but don't bother 'cause most probably your interface's fried, best solution is to buy new one based on ft232bl


Indeed :) Buy a new cable based on FT232BL. Also, you don't need to use modded software or reflash GAL

Regards.

tazman13
17th April, 2012, 06:53 PM
you can do solution without gal but don't bother 'cause most probably your interface's fried, best solution is to buy new one based on ft232bl

I willing to try this method before I buy a new one, where do I find the how to?

I will get some flux and pin point iron to clean up the PCB.

Thanks in advance guys.

If it works, bonus. If it don't then it's a new one.

bibkare
17th April, 2012, 09:36 PM
I willing to try this method before I buy a new one, where do I find the how to?

I will get some flux and pin point iron to clean up the PCB.

Thanks in advance guys.

If it works, bonus. If it don't then it's a new one.

remove gal and make connections like in picture, after that reflash atmega with 1.84 fw for 10.6.4-11.2.0, you have to use soft with loader

http://i43.tinypic.com/18daq8.jpg

KenshinPT
18th April, 2012, 12:07 AM
remove gal and make connections like in picture, after that reflash atmega with 1.84 fw for 10.6.4-11.2.0, you have to use soft with loader


Hey mate! How are doing?

Does this trick works on any FT232RL cable or just on this specific hardware?

Regards

bibkare
18th April, 2012, 09:11 AM
Hey mate! How are doing?

Does this trick works on any FT232RL cable or just on this specific hardware?

Regards

I had only this kind of RL interface, i suppose it works with all, it must be used with loaders otherwise got unregistered. For this solution thanks goes to Mr. sky59sky59 and Mr. baldos

tazman13
18th April, 2012, 10:21 AM
well the Atmega has been programmed with 1.84 and verifies OK. Security fuses have been set and read back OK. FTDI has been updated and cable is now recognised as a rosstech cable.

So far so good, off to hunt down loader software and try 11.2.

thanks for your help.

KenshinPT
18th April, 2012, 11:57 AM
Anyone know if a eeprom dump from a cable based on a FT232BL could work on a cable based on a FT232RL? After modding the harware and using a loader.

And the other way around? A eeprom dump from a cable based on a FT232RL could work on a cable based on a FT232BL?

magadan
18th April, 2012, 12:20 PM
And the other way around? A eeprom dump from a cable based on a FT232RL could work on a cable based on a FT232BL?
It can work and on the contrary if to use other loader.
Here proof. (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/vag-com-vcds-everything-99750/index183.html#post1522403)
It is a clone of a cable based on the FT232R chip.

bibkare
18th April, 2012, 12:36 PM
Anyone know if a eeprom dump from a cable based on a FT232BL could work on a cable based on a FT232RL? After modding the harware and using a loader.

And the other way around? A eeprom dump from a cable based on a FT232RL could work on a cable based on a FT232BL?

I use same dump for RL and BL, difference is using loader with RL

KenshinPT
18th April, 2012, 12:43 PM
It can work and on the contrary if to use other loader.
Here proof. (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/vag-com-vcds-everything-99750/index183.html#post1522403)
It is a clone of a cable based on the FT232R chip.




I use same dump for RL and BL, difference is using loader with RL

So, If you buy original cable with FT232RL, and imagine that you could dump the flash+eeprom... Would you be able to use that RL eeprom dump on a cloned cable with a BL FTDI? Without any loader or modding the eeprom?

tazman13
18th April, 2012, 01:16 PM
OK, i thought i found a 11.2 loader version but the cable when plugged in to the car is unregistered/unauthorised. I can see the licence details so atmega must be OK.

i am going to try 10.6.4.

cheeky question, is loader 11.2 on here? used search and can't find it

magadan
18th April, 2012, 01:18 PM
The chance of repetition "ChIP-ID" for all chips FT232R on Ross's algorithm is equal 1 option from 65536 options.
Therefore there is a possibility to buy in shop the necessary chip, and to use a clone.lol
This chance even is a little higher, for some ChIP-ID.

bibkare
18th April, 2012, 01:29 PM
Here you go Taz

tazman13
18th April, 2012, 01:55 PM
Works perfect, thank you for your help.

is 11.2 the best i will get in its current state?

magadan
18th April, 2012, 01:55 PM
Here you go Taz
Or there are here these loaders. They lay on a rutracker.
Place in the folder with the program. Start not VCDS.EXE , and this loader. Or make a label on necessary a loader.

Sergey99
21st April, 2012, 04:32 PM
I have VCDS1062 with chip 079F8513A(CHINA).What is it?

mattydr67
21st April, 2012, 04:38 PM
I have VCDS1062 with chip 079F8513A(CHINA).What is it?

I suppose that it is NEC not Atmega
If it is so you'll not be able to upgrade it or reflash it.
F...k this It is a sh..t
Good luck

antibisic
21st April, 2012, 05:01 PM
But the relevant data is after 40h, right?

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3738/dumpj.jpg

Hi I have 908 version with 232 BL and after long time working good when I plug in the car got eror with interface.When I test it got** Not pluged in the car**but it see Ross tech interface.I readed atmega and in eprom where is FF placed by me is all 00 is it ok or I should write FF inside I programed another flash but same?Thanks

KenshinPT
22nd April, 2012, 12:42 AM
Hi I have 908 version with 232 BL and after long time working good when I plug in the car got eror with interface.When I test it got** Not pluged in the car**but it see Ross tech interface.I readed atmega and in eprom where is FF placed by me is all 00 is it ok or I should write FF inside I programed another flash but same?Thanks

Which error do you get when you connect the cable into the car?

antibisic
22nd April, 2012, 09:54 AM
Which error do you get when you connect the cable into the car?

I get** interface is not ready**posiblle cause wrong com port,firmware update need and so on

KenshinPT
22nd April, 2012, 01:17 PM
I get** interface is not ready**posiblle cause wrong com port,firmware update need and so on

Try to flash again the ATMEGA and FTDI.

Then post results.

antibisic
22nd April, 2012, 05:02 PM
Try to flash again the ATMEGA and FTDI.

Then post results.

I reflashed atmega with files 908 here from forum and 93c46 too with diferent ept but still same message that interface is not conected in the car when I test interface!What else can be reason?Thanks

Before this hapened sometimes I get this message too and I disconect and conect interface end it worked

KenshinPT
22nd April, 2012, 08:31 PM
I reflashed atmega with files 908 here from forum and 93c46 too with diferent ept but still same message that interface is not conected in the car when I test interface!What else can be reason?Thanks

Before this hapened sometimes I get this message too and I disconect and conect interface end it worked

Take some high quality pictures from both sides of the PCB.

Make sure that the photos show clearly the IC's labels.

Good luck

antibisic
23rd April, 2012, 10:14 AM
Take some high quality pictures from both sides of the PCB.

Make sure that the photos show clearly the IC's labels.

Good luck

Sorry for bad pictures but in workshop only had a phone and I write on which ic is.Tryed some dumps for atmega but allways when I conect red led is on.Regards

KenshinPT
23rd April, 2012, 05:05 PM
Sorry for bad pictures but in workshop only had a phone and I write on which ic is.Tryed some dumps for atmega but allways when I conect red led is on.Regards

Your have a good hardware... and with this one you don't need to remove any component.

Regarding your problem you might try the following:

1) Check if you have 5V at the output of the voltage regulator (7805).

2) Is your cable recognized as Ross-Tech cable when you plug it in the USB port?

3) Make sure you have good dumps (FLASH + EEPROM) and that you use the corresponding original installer.

4) Make sure you are using the correct *.ept file for the FTDI's EEPROM.

5) Are you flashing both memories of the ATMEGA? FLASH + EEPROM?

6) Which programmer (hardware and software ) are you using?

Good luck.

antibisic
24th April, 2012, 08:31 AM
Your have a good hardware... and with this one you don't need to remove any component.

Regarding your problem you might try the following:

1) Check if you have 5V at the output of the voltage regulator (7805).

2) Is your cable recognized as Ross-Tech cable when you plug it in the USB port?

3) Make sure you have good dumps (FLASH + EEPROM) and that you use the corresponding original installer.

4) Make sure you are using the correct *.ept file for the FTDI's EEPROM.

5) Are you flashing both memories of the ATMEGA? FLASH + EEPROM?

6) Which programmer (hardware and software ) are you using?

Good luck.

1.I allready checked and voltage regulator is ok

2.Yes my cabel is recognised when I plug in the usb port

3.I tryed several dumps and with all is same

4.I used 805 and 908 ept file for 908 atmega dump and same thing

5.Yes of course I am flashing both

6.I am useing upa usb orig

But one thing is not clear to me,first I erase the atmega and than when I read fuse bits it is still there!Why when is mcu erased maybe this make me trouble because I write than new dumps over this fuses.Maybe atmega is faulty,or I shoud try with x-prog?Thanks

KenshinPT
24th April, 2012, 09:25 AM
1.I allready checked and voltage regulator is ok

2.Yes my cabel is recognised when I plug in the usb port

3.I tryed several dumps and with all is same

4.I used 805 and 908 ept file for 908 atmega dump and same thing

5.Yes of course I am flashing both

6.I am useing upa usb orig

But one thing is not clear to me,first I erase the atmega and than when I read fuse bits it is still there!Why when is mcu erased maybe this make me trouble because I write than new dumps over this fuses.Maybe atmega is faulty,or I shoud try with x-prog?Thanks

The problem are not the fuse bits being or not being erased during the reflash.

That is, if the fuse bits are correct, you don't even need to set them again.

Which fuses are you using?

Try to use eXtremeburner and use this fuses:
LOW: CD
HIGH: DC
EXT: F9
LOCK: FF (you can read the content of the ATMEGA's memory after programming) or CC (you can't read the content ATMEGA's memory after program)

Good luck

antibisic
24th April, 2012, 10:52 AM
The problem are not the fuse bits being or not being erased during the reflash.

That is, if the fuse bits are correct, you don't even need to set them again.

Which fuses are you using?

Try to use eXtremeburner and use this fuses:
LOW: CD
HIGH: DC
EXT: F9
LOCK: FF (you can read the content of the ATMEGA's memory after programming) or CC (you can't read the content ATMEGA's memory after program)

Good luck

I use fuses like other here from pony prog soft and I used this before when I programed my vcds without problem

KenshinPT
24th April, 2012, 12:08 PM
I use fuses like other here from pony prog soft and I used this before when I programed my vcds without problem


If you double check everything I said above, I might suggest that you may have a faulty IC.


1 - Can controller MCP2515
2 - Can Transceiver TJA1050
3 - uC ATMEGA162

antibisic
24th April, 2012, 01:41 PM
If you double check everything I said above, I might suggest that you may have a faulty IC.


1 - Can controller MCP2515
2 - Can Transceiver TJA1050
3 - uC ATMEGA162

I think you are right probable atmega 16 is gone,if ic,s mcp2515 and tja1050 gone shoud interface make test and give eror with can?thank you

KenshinPT
24th April, 2012, 02:00 PM
I think you are right probable atmega 16 is gone,if ic,s mcp2515 and tja1050 gone shoud interface make test and give eror with can?thank you

When the cable is powered via ODB (12V) and if you make a test I think you're just testing the license, so, only the ATMEGA.

I believe that the test button won't give any report about the CAN communication (correct me if I am wrong).

So, if you're having troubles only when you try to communicate with the ECU, I might suggest that the problem is the CAN communication HW (MCP2515 or TJA1050).

However, it could also be the ATMEGA... or a resistor, or a capacitor... or a broken cooper track... If you understand what I mean, it could be anything. So, you must make a throughout analysis.

If I am wrong please correct me :) Thanks

antibisic
24th April, 2012, 04:23 PM
When the cable is powered via ODB (12V) and if you make a test I think you're just testing the license, so, only the ATMEGA.

I believe that the test button won't give any report about the CAN communication (correct me if I am wrong).

So, if you're having troubles only when you try to communicate with the ECU, I might suggest that the problem is the CAN communication HW (MCP2515 or TJA1050).

However, it could also be the ATMEGA... or a resistor, or a capacitor... or a broken cooper track... If you understand what I mean, it could be anything. So, you must make a throughout analysis.

If I am wrong please correct me :) Thanks

I double checked all tranzistors,resistors and capatitors.If can ic is broken than sholud not work all what come via can comunication but not all ecus works via can example motor ecu works via K-line and k-line goes over transistors not over can ic.In this case in test screen should apear
Can 1 not ok
can 2 not ok
k-line ok
Maybe I wrong but I think so

KenshinPT
24th April, 2012, 04:58 PM
I double checked all tranzistors,resistors and capatitors.If can ic is broken than sholud not work all what come via can comunication but not all ecus works via can example motor ecu works via K-line and k-line goes over transistors not over can ic.In this case in test screen should apear
Can 1 not ok
can 2 not ok
k-line ok
Maybe I wrong but I think so

You're right: CAN goes over MCP2515 and TJA1050. For KKL the communication is via transistor.

Then, maybe the ATMEGA is faulty.

Did you use tried the cable in other cars?

antibisic
24th April, 2012, 07:22 PM
You're right: CAN goes over MCP2515 and TJA1050. For KKL the communication is via transistor.

Then, maybe the ATMEGA is faulty.

Did you use tried the cable in other cars?

No only in vw audi

ovi_dk
24th April, 2012, 07:43 PM
Hi dear friends
I need lile help ,sugestions
Yestoday get one vcds clone 11.10,after insatll on pc get the error like in picture wath i attash,the cable dont find any drivers and can not install,the cable its new,i try to install on other pc but same problem.
Can somone tellme wats wrong?
Thank u for any sugestion :)
Regards

mladen76
24th April, 2012, 08:08 PM
Maybe it is your operating system in question mate.
W7 64 bit ???
Try to download original RossTech installer,and after you install drivers whit it uninstall original program and install one you got
whit your interface.

mattydr67
24th April, 2012, 08:10 PM
Hi dear friends
I need lile help ,sugestions
Yestoday get one vcds clone 11.10,after insatll on pc get the error like in picture wath i attash,the cable dont find any drivers and can not install,the cable its new,i try to install on other pc but same problem.
Can somone tellme wats wrong?
Thank u for any sugestion :)
Regards

Right clik on and Unistall drivers
Then when it will ask you to install driver do it manually
If this will not help you, then use the FTCleanner and unistall all VID_0403/PID_FA20 drivers
Then you'll be able to install it
Good luck

KenshinPT
24th April, 2012, 08:16 PM
No only in vw audi

So, you tried at least in two cars? Right? Then we can now exclude that the problem was the car itself.

If you used original installer, good dumps for uC and FTDI and if you tried the cable on several cars....

... I think that you have a HW problem. If you say the cable won't connect on KKL or CAN... then you might have a problem in the uC.

Try replace the ATMEGA.

Post the results.

Good luck

ovi_dk
24th April, 2012, 08:28 PM
Well ,i uninstall all ft driver from mi pc and now whw when plug in the vcds i get this:(

mladen76
24th April, 2012, 08:37 PM
Mate,give me your TeamViwer on P.M.if you have,I will try to do it for you.

ovi_dk
24th April, 2012, 08:39 PM
I dont know wi i have pid0020 and vid 0003,i give uninstal to this but even if i put the cable on the same pc or to anoather the usb recunoise the same the interface like in mi second post!Its a way to uninstall this,or i have to reprogram mi vcds??Thank u!

mattydr67
24th April, 2012, 08:41 PM
Well ,i uninstall all ft driver from mi pc and now whw when plug in the vcds i get this:(

Now right clik on that
Then Update drivers
And use manually update browsing to the C:\Ross-Tech\VCDS
And Next and so on
Install drivers
Good luck

mattydr67
24th April, 2012, 08:42 PM
I dont know wi i have pid0020 and vid 0003,i give uninstal to this but even if i put the cable on the same pc or to anoather the usb recunoise the same the interface like in mi second post!Its a way to uninstall this,or i have to reprogram mi vcds??Thank u!

IF you have diffrent VID?PID the 0403/FA20 try to use the procedures and then use MProg
Maybe you do not need to reflash the Atmega.
This depend of your kind of tool
Good luck

ovi_dk
24th April, 2012, 09:45 PM
With mprog showme 0 divice found,if i give to pick driver manualy dosen find nothing!Anny advice?
Thank u

The Strokes
25th April, 2012, 05:39 AM
Hi dear friends
I need lile help ,sugestions
Yestoday get one vcds clone 11.10,after insatll on pc get the error like in picture wath i attash,the cable dont find any drivers and can not install,the cable its new,i try to install on other pc but same problem.
Can somone tellme wats wrong?
Thank u for any sugestion :)
Regards

Did you get your clone working? if so,where did u get your from?

mattydr67
25th April, 2012, 05:46 AM
With mprog showme 0 divice found,if i give to pick driver manualy dosen find nothing!Anny advice?
Thank u

Use the procedures writing two lines ( with you VID/PID ) in the RT-USB.inf and after this you'll be able to install drivers as ross-tech
After this you'll be able to use MProg
Good luck

ovi_dk
25th April, 2012, 01:28 PM
Thank u to all for help,mi ftdi was death,no programabile,so i will change with new one adn hope all come to normal.
Thank u once again

tk500
25th April, 2012, 01:28 PM
Not so much.

randomlog
25th April, 2012, 02:25 PM
Use the procedures writing two lines ( with you VID/PID ) in the RT-USB.inf and after this you'll be able to install drivers as ross-tech
After this you'll be able to use MProg
Good luck


You can use this: http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/repair-your-vcds-1106-step-step-235868/#post1488361

tricoredc17
25th April, 2012, 07:58 PM
Yah yah... right... I'll do it for free for anyone interested. Now get the fcuk out.

From the original VCDS also read it?

KenshinPT
25th April, 2012, 08:20 PM
From the original VCDS also read it?

Yes.

Regards.

matekhr
26th April, 2012, 06:37 AM
My old vag-com cable makes me a lot of troubles, so I ordered a new one. It arrived yesterday, didn't work (of course) so I opened it.
Instead of Atmega there's a chip marked D79F8513A (China).
What a hell is that?

mattydr67
26th April, 2012, 06:57 AM
My old vag-com cable makes me a lot of troubles, so I ordered a new one. It arrived yesterday, didn't work (of course) so I opened it.
Instead of Atmega there's a chip marked D79F8513A (China).
What a hell is that?

That is NEC not ATMEGA
You have bad luck in this case becasue for this kind of tools there's no solution, I mean no dump for NEC
Try to reflash it with MProg maybe you have a littel luck and it will work but in other case you have to buy another tool.
Good luck

tricoredc17
26th April, 2012, 07:19 AM
Yes.

Regards.

Just ask him. You are reading connecting to atmega162? Is the USB port? I think we have the same patent :)

matekhr
26th April, 2012, 08:08 AM
That is NEC not ATMEGA
You have bad luck in this case becasue for this kind of tools there's no solution, I mean no dump for NEC
Try to reflash it with MProg maybe you have a littel luck and it will work but in other case you have to buy another tool.
Good luck

Have you any datasheet for this? It doesn't seem to be pin-compatible with Atmega.

(I'll try some other VCDS versions, maybe it will work with some earlier release.)

mattydr67
26th April, 2012, 08:30 AM
Have you any datasheet for this? It doesn't seem to be pin-compatible with Atmega.

(I'll try some other VCDS versions, maybe it will work with some earlier release.)

It is not compatible with Atmega.
It is other Chinese chip and there's no dump for it.
It is working just with VCDS 10.6.0 or if you make a loader will work with other versions too.
But as I told you if you wanna reflash this tool you'll not be able becasue there's no dump for NEC
Sorry for your inconvenience but this is it, you have nothing to do.
Good luck

matekhr
26th April, 2012, 09:10 AM
It is not compatible with Atmega.
It is other Chinese chip and there's no dump for it.
It is working just with VCDS 10.6.0 or if you make a loader will work with other versions too.
But as I told you if you wanna reflash this tool you'll not be able becasue there's no dump for NEC
Sorry for your inconvenience but this is it, you have nothing to do.
Good luck

Well, my PC recognizes the cable OK (as Ross-tech interface), but after connecting it to car (or 12V) I got the message (something like that):
"Port status: OK, Interface: No"

bat21
26th April, 2012, 09:50 AM
Just ask him. You are reading connecting to atmega162? Is the USB port? I think we have the same patent :)
Is simpler way

KenshinPT
26th April, 2012, 09:56 AM
Just ask him. You are reading connecting to atmega162? Is the USB port? I think we have the same patent :)

Yes... I believe that we have the same method to extract the dump from ori or clone tool.

The only difference in our methods is that I don't ask 500? for that. I just ask for friendship.

Regards.

mattydr67
26th April, 2012, 11:21 AM
Well, my PC recognizes the cable OK (as Ross-tech interface), but after connecting it to car (or 12V) I got the message (something like that):
"Port status: OK, Interface: No"

Plug it into the car do not start the engine.
Then plug it into the USB and check in the Device Manager if it recognized and the VID/PID it is 0403/FA20
Then make an interface TEST and see in the same time if you loose uSB connection.
Or try it to Read it with MProg or use the ept file and try to reflash it.
If it said the it dosen't found the tool this means that FTDI it is broken.
Change it and you have a good tool again. Ovi_dk had same issue
Good luck

xoom
26th April, 2012, 08:57 PM
My old vag-com cable makes me a lot of troubles, so I ordered a new one. It arrived yesterday, didn't work (of course) so I opened it.
Instead of Atmega there's a chip marked D79F8513A (China).
What a hell is that?
Try with older versions of VCDS like 805 - 912..
Also check for solder splashes between chips legs :) this is often in chineese stuff :)
Regards, xoom.

eliotroyano
26th April, 2012, 11:52 PM
Hi friends. I have a weird issue with a Vag10.6 clone cable interface. After a year of usage with almost no troubles, today trying to scan my own car with it, I notice a weird notice from the software indicating me interface detected but car not connected!!!!!. I try every module that I can and I got the same message. I plug and unplug it several times and the result was the same. Also I notice that the interface got hot, touchable but hot!!!!!!. I test my old KKL dumb interface and it reach every module of the car. Anyone had the same issue??? What could be the problem???? I really appreciate your advice friends.

KenshinPT
27th April, 2012, 12:25 AM
Try with older versions of VCDS like 805 - 912..
Also check for solder splashes between chips legs :) this is often in chineese stuff :)
Regards, xoom.

You're right.

I had a bad experience in one of my cables.

The FTDI was full of solder flux and that was making a low impedance between pads: Conclusion: bad behaviour.

eliotroyano
27th April, 2012, 04:44 AM
Hi friends. I have a weird issue with a Vag10.6 clone cable interface. After a year of usage with almost no troubles, today trying to scan my own car with it, I notice a weird notice from the software indicating me interface detected but car not connected!!!!!. I try every module that I can and I got the same message. I plug and unplug it several times and the result was the same. Also I notice that the interface got hot, touchable but hot!!!!!!. I test my old KKL dumb interface and it reach every module of the car. Anyone had the same issue??? What could be the problem???? I really appreciate your advice friends.

Hi again friends. Here is a pic of the issue that I have.

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/e232fa2a4caf38050902387482190140cb9c07a9ae2b04f44b 0eb34f2c802a914g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=7uk7cr1h2qv69b1)

mattydr67
27th April, 2012, 04:58 AM
What about the LED?
Is it turned on?
If yes in this case you'll need to reflash it.
Good luck

eliotroyano
27th April, 2012, 05:02 AM
What about the LED?
Is it turned on?
If yes in this case you'll need to reflash it.
Good luck

When the cable was working, just after plug it to the OBD2 port the LED blinks red some times and get green. Now it blinks several times in red and after that it turns off. And when I try to diagnose some car module it starts to get warm and hot but touchable.

matekhr
27th April, 2012, 08:07 AM
Try with older versions of VCDS like 805 - 912..

It works with 908 :)
And the firmware is 1.81, but because it's NEC MCU inside instead of Atmege, I suppose it's not upgradeable?

It's not what I expected, because the cable is declared as 10.6, but at least, it works...

Maybe I should update my old cable to higher version - it's 7.04 with FTDI232BL and 93c46 eeprom. What can I do with it?

KenshinPT
27th April, 2012, 09:16 AM
It works with 908 :)
And the firmware is 1.81, but because it's NEC MCU inside instead of Atmege, I suppose it's not upgradeable?

It's not what I expected, because the cable is declared as 10.6, but at least, it works...

Maybe I should update my old cable to higher version - it's 7.04 with FTDI232BL and 93c46 eeprom. What can I do with it?

Hey!!! That's great news!

Regarding the 704 I bet you have a good hardware. If so, you can upgrade it to any available dump :)

Good luck.

matekhr
27th April, 2012, 09:41 AM
Yeah, it's quite acceptable situation for me now.
I have a working 908 cable, and an old 704 I can play with. :)

KenshinPT
27th April, 2012, 04:06 PM
Yeah, it's quite acceptable situation for me now.
I have a working 908 cable, and an old 704 I can play with. :)

Here, you'll find all the help you need to reflash your 704 cable.

Good luck!

OMBRE
28th April, 2012, 04:21 PM
What is the last working and available dump for VCDS?

Anmed
28th April, 2012, 04:43 PM
The latest available version 1.84 of my information ...

mattydr67
28th April, 2012, 04:57 PM
The latest available version 1.84 of my information ...

I suppose he asked about version of VCDS.
The last one for free it is VCDS 11.2 and can work also with modified 11.3.
The 1.84 it is a firmwear ( flash ). But to make a interface to be Fullregistred you need a good eeprom ( this one make your tool to become Full Registred )
Good luck

tazman13
28th April, 2012, 06:42 PM
With help from on here I got 1.84 on atmega and 11.2 beta mod working just fine.

eliotroyano
28th April, 2012, 07:44 PM
When the cable was working, just after plug it to the OBD2 port the LED blinks red some times and get green. Now it blinks several times in red and after that it turns off. And when I try to diagnose some car module it starts to get warm and hot but touchable.

Friends anyone have at least an idea what can be happening with my clone Vag10.6 cable?

tazman13
28th April, 2012, 09:57 PM
Friends anyone have at least an idea what can be happening with my clone Vag10.6 cable?

Post some pictures, you will get more help that way.

mattydr67
28th April, 2012, 10:02 PM
Friends anyone have at least an idea what can be happening with my clone Vag10.6 cable?

Plug it into the car and do an interface TEST.
Tell us what it say, please.
Maybe you got a short, that's why becomes warm.
And if this is on K-line maybe that why the LED is blinking and the turn off
Good luck

magadan
28th April, 2012, 10:17 PM
Explain to me, what functions are executed by the button "VIS" in the program?


Give to me please the reference to the program which doesn't incorporate to a site using the Internet?

eliotroyano
29th April, 2012, 03:24 AM
Post some pictures, you will get more help that way.


Hi again friends. Here is a pic of the issue that I have.

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/e232fa2a4caf38050902387482190140cb9c07a9ae2b04f44b 0eb34f2c802a914g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=7uk7cr1h2qv69b1)

Friends this is the message that I get when I test the interface, but it can not connect to the car. I also try with my old KKL cable and it work prefectly.

eliotroyano
29th April, 2012, 03:35 AM
Plug it into the car and do an interface TEST.
Tell us what it say, please.
Maybe you got a short, that's why becomes warm.
And if this is on K-line maybe that why the LED is blinking and the turn off
Good luck


Hi again friends. Here is a pic of the issue that I have.

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/e232fa2a4caf38050902387482190140cb9c07a9ae2b04f44b 0eb34f2c802a914g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=7uk7cr1h2qv69b1)

This is the message that I get when I test the interface, but it can not connect to the car. I also try with my old KKL cable and it work prefectly.

KenshinPT
29th April, 2012, 11:40 PM
Hey mates!

Anyone have any idea what this could be?

I am testing the cable on my workbench (not in car)

This happened after replacing a dead ATMEGA and the LED is blinking red.

Thanks.

lupu_sandu
29th April, 2012, 11:53 PM
Make a photo of your interface

KenshinPT
30th April, 2012, 12:10 AM
Make a photo of your interface

Photos of my dongle:

lupu_sandu
30th April, 2012, 12:37 AM
Give a try

magadan
30th April, 2012, 11:32 AM
Give a try
I want to add to the told.
Either reflash atmega, or reprogram the GAL. Or check the soldered details.

ahadi
30th April, 2012, 03:30 PM
Hey mates!

Anyone have any idea what this could be?

I am testing the cable on my workbench (not in car)

This happened after replacing a dead ATMEGA and the LED is blinking red.

Thanks.

I dnt believe you had a problem troubleshooting VCDS .

KenshinPT
30th April, 2012, 03:32 PM
I dnt believe you had a problem troubleshooting VCDS .

I don't get it. Sorry :(

Regards.

ahadi
30th April, 2012, 03:34 PM
try another Atmega if transistors all ok .

max4ever
30th April, 2012, 03:56 PM
Photos of my dongle:

I`ve got the same interface, but mine got the STC mounted up !Do i have to dismount the STC in order to write Atmega?

KenshinPT
30th April, 2012, 04:27 PM
I dnt believe you had a problem troubleshooting VCDS .


I`ve got the same interface, but mine got the STC mounted up !Do i have to dismount the STC in order to write Atmega?

It's not mandatory to remove the STC chip. But I recommend to.

So, remove these 3 marked components: STC chip, transistor, resistor.

For your own know-how, the STC chip is there only to reflash the 93C46 EEPROM. Everytime the cable is powered with 12V, the 93C46 EEPROM is reflashed.

If the ATMEGA is compromised, for example by an internet connection, the STC won't do anything.

Good luck.

max4ever
30th April, 2012, 04:46 PM
My interface have 93C56 EEPROM!

KenshinPT
30th April, 2012, 04:51 PM
My interface have 93C56 EEPROM!

No problem mate :)

93C46 is 1KB
93C56 is 2KB

That means, that at least, your 96C56 EEPROM will be half empty :P

Regards.

KenshinPT
30th April, 2012, 07:36 PM
Give a try


I want to add to the told.
Either reflash atmega, or reprogram the GAL. Or check the soldered details.


I dnt believe you had a problem troubleshooting VCDS .


Thank you all guys!!!

The problem is now solved and it was due to a wrong solder. One of the ATMEGA pads was lifted and not soldered.

Thank!!!

JetSet59
1st May, 2012, 10:30 AM
hello, do you think that i need to unsolder the STC ? i have already flash my Atmel without problem..
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6926/20120501095506.jpg

mishu_b
1st May, 2012, 11:30 AM
...
yes for sure,

and also you have to modify your connections like into the tutorial here in the forum section!

atb

mattydr67
1st May, 2012, 12:53 PM
hello, do you think that i need to unsolder the STC ? i have already flash my Atmel without problem..
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6926/20120501095506.jpg

Mate for your kind of tool I suppose you don't need to unsolder and midify anything.
Before do any modification or unsodler the STC please try to reflash the Atmega using the pads near the USB once and report.
Good luck

JetSet59
1st May, 2012, 01:39 PM
i have already succesfully flashed my Atmel many time (with USBasp) with 908/10.6 DUMP.
Actually i have no problem with the STC Chip, but i have read many time on this forum, that it's needed to unsolder the STC Chips to prevent erasing if internet connection is "detected"

mattydr67
1st May, 2012, 02:06 PM
i have already succesfully flashed my Atmel many time (with USBasp) with 908/10.6 DUMP.
Actually i have no problem with the STC Chip, but i have read many time on this forum, that it's needed to unsolder the STC Chips to prevent erasing if internet connection is "detected"

No mate
STC prevent Atmel erasing not if it is not there.
It's reflashing the Atmel back with eeprom dump that it was programmed.
In some tools you need to unsolder it if you want to reflash your tool but in the tools as yours you don't need to unsolder it.
Good luck

P.S. - My advise it is : do not use internet conection in the computer where you had VCDS installed ever.

toquim
1st May, 2012, 03:24 PM
Give a try Attached Files http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/digital/attach/rar.gif 30042012216.rar (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachments/f152/118853d1335742623-vag-com-vcds-everything-30042012216.rar) (599.5 KB, 67 views)
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Press the fckuing http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/digital/buttons/post_thanks.gif button if my post was helpful!
I'm not sharing passwords... It's so difficult to understand?
If you are not a http://tinyurl.com/c69yfo7 , don't ask for HELP on PM .
I will not answer.
I'm too poor to buy diagnostic tools

Password, please.
Thanks.:sheep:

KenshinPT
1st May, 2012, 04:54 PM
No mate
STC prevent Atmel erasing not if it is not there.
It's reflashing the Atmel back with eeprom dump that it was programmed.
In some tools you need to unsolder it if you want to reflash your tool but in the tools as yours you don't need to unsolder it.
Good luck

P.S. - My advise it is : do not use internet conection in the computer where you had VCDS installed ever.

Matty is right.

The STC is there to reflash the ATMEGA.

max4ever
1st May, 2012, 05:43 PM
Thanks @KenshinPT.I reflash my interface and...it works! Thanks again!!!

eliotroyano
3rd May, 2012, 03:34 AM
This is the message that I get when I test the interface, but it can not connect to the car. I also try with my old KKL cable and it work prefectly.

Yesterday I check out my Vag10.6 clone interface and took some pics:

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/1334200f09448af2dac1e2d0174f599eb3caaaffaa1d575259 6a024328606b154g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=adjbjumrmfx2v8x)

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/881ba324d191f84f510f51257cb9edbdab02c79684a29ae411 bdbda1d53e9b1b4g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=7stbic2y6ym4f44)

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/e2e11be817dbf6a4773bfb204238c73ec1be8001e5c0b81237 181724a29812154g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=k7g5tigtyr1n8a1)

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/e232fa2a4caf38050902387482190140cb9c07a9ae2b04f44b 0eb34f2c802a914g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=7uk7cr1h2qv69b1)

I check out the 7805 regulator is getting really "HOT" and it is only showing 3V at it 5V output. Also that test was on bench too, connecting Power and Ground only. Led starts flashing red and after that it turns off. Something should be in short. Anyone have a electrical or schematic diagram of this interface. Some help could be useful.

liviudiaconu
3rd May, 2012, 06:04 AM
1. STC, D7, R50, R51=desolder.
2. GAL16V8 or ATF16V8 = desolder, reprogramm and resolder.
3 Solder 3 wire like in Aminebot's tutorial.
4. Reflash Atmega and/or FT232RL..
5. make a test using a proper VCDS and loader and with interface plugged into usb and obd2-car.

mattydr67
3rd May, 2012, 06:11 AM
Yesterday I check out my Vag10.6 clone interface and took some pics:

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/1334200f09448af2dac1e2d0174f599eb3caaaffaa1d575259 6a024328606b154g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=adjbjumrmfx2v8x)

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/881ba324d191f84f510f51257cb9edbdab02c79684a29ae411 bdbda1d53e9b1b4g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=7stbic2y6ym4f44)

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/e2e11be817dbf6a4773bfb204238c73ec1be8001e5c0b81237 181724a29812154g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=k7g5tigtyr1n8a1)

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/e232fa2a4caf38050902387482190140cb9c07a9ae2b04f44b 0eb34f2c802a914g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=7uk7cr1h2qv69b1)

I check out the 7805 regulator is getting really "HOT" and it is only showing 3V at it 5V output. Also that test was on bench too, connecting Power and Ground only. Led starts flashing red and after that it turns off. Something should be in short. Anyone have a electrical or schematic diagram of this interface. Some help could be useful.

If you plugg it the 7805 has to have +12V (on OBD II side )-GND-+5V (LED side )
- pin 1 (V in ) +12V
- pin 2 GND
- pin 3 ( V out ) +5.0V
If it hasn't and become hot, change it
Good luck

eliotroyano
3rd May, 2012, 02:32 PM
If you plugg it the 7805 has to have +12V (on OBD II side )-GND-+5V (LED side )
- pin 1 (V in ) +12V
- pin 2 GND
- pin 3 ( V out ) +5.0V
If it hasn't and become hot, change it
Good luck

Let me check it and I will let you informed.
Thanks a lot,

eliotroyano
4th May, 2012, 03:28 AM
Let me check it and I will let you informed.
Thanks a lot,

Change the 7805 regulator with a new one and I got the same result. When interface is cold led flash red almost 10 times, 7805 output is 5v and starts to drop to almost 3v and led flash red 10 times more when it turns off and 7805 is really hot and untouchable. If I let cold down half a minute it only flash red 8 or 10 times before led turns off. If reconnect power to interface just after test it, led flash red no more than 3 times before it turns off. In any case 7805 get really hot and voltage drop slowly until red more or less 3v. :dong::dong::dong:

mattydr67
4th May, 2012, 05:01 AM
I suppose that there it is short.
Check pins and PCB wires
Good luck

eliotroyano
4th May, 2012, 05:28 AM
I suppose that there it is short.
Check pins and PCB wires
Good luck

Thanks for your support. But the weird thing is that I have used the cable in the past (last time was 2 months ago) and it work excellent. Now I try to use it and I got this issue. It can be kind of transistor damage or maybe atmega program issue?????

KenshinPT
4th May, 2012, 08:27 AM
Thanks for your support. But the weird thing is that I have used the cable in the past (last time was 2 months ago) and it work excellent. Now I try to use it and I got this issue. It can be kind of transistor damage or maybe atmega program issue?????

Hey mate!

You probably have a short, fried component or low impedance between tracks or pads.

Post a print screen of the TEST result

Good luck.

eliotroyano
4th May, 2012, 01:03 PM
Yesterday I check out my Vag10.6 clone interface and took some pics:

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/1334200f09448af2dac1e2d0174f599eb3caaaffaa1d575259 6a024328606b154g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=adjbjumrmfx2v8x)

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/881ba324d191f84f510f51257cb9edbdab02c79684a29ae411 bdbda1d53e9b1b4g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=7stbic2y6ym4f44)

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/e2e11be817dbf6a4773bfb204238c73ec1be8001e5c0b81237 181724a29812154g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=k7g5tigtyr1n8a1)

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/e232fa2a4caf38050902387482190140cb9c07a9ae2b04f44b 0eb34f2c802a914g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=7uk7cr1h2qv69b1)

I check out the 7805 regulator is getting really "HOT" and it is only showing 3V at it 5V output. Also that test was on bench too, connecting Power and Ground only. Led starts flashing red and after that it turns off. Something should be in short. Anyone have a electrical or schematic diagram of this interface. Some help could be useful.


Hey mate!

You probably have a short, fried component or low impedance between tracks or pads.

Post a print screen of the TEST result

Good luck.

Here are the pics KenshinPT.
Thanks,

KenshinPT
4th May, 2012, 03:12 PM
Here are the pics KenshinPT.
Thanks,

If the interface was found, the UART-USB connection is OK. So FTDI is OK.

Software or dump issues shouldn't cause hardware problems, like the one you have.

To conclude, in my opinion, you have a defective component, short circuit or low impedance between pads or tracks...

!!Check the whole PCB!!

eliotroyano
4th May, 2012, 03:33 PM
If the interface was found, the UART-USB connection is OK. So FTDI is OK.

Software or dump issues shouldn't cause hardware problems, like the one you have.

To conclude, in my opinion, you have a defective component, short circuit or low impedance between pads or tracks...

!!Check the whole PCB!!

Thanks a lot for you help KenshinPT, but do you have some schematic of this interface to following it?. SMD transistors could connect directly to OBD2 & CAN lines then, my thought is that something else connected to +5V line is in short or low impedance. Could be ATMega162V, but at least it starts few seconds when Vcc is enough and after that it turns off due to low voltage.

KenshinPT
4th May, 2012, 07:18 PM
Thanks a lot for you help KenshinPT, but do you have some schematic of this interface to following it?. SMD transistors could connect directly to OBD2 & CAN lines then, my thought is that something else connected to +5V line is in short or low impedance. Could be ATMega162V, but at least it starts few seconds when Vcc is enough and after that it turns off due to low voltage.

Your interface is RL, but I am 100% sure that this will help you

If this helped you, please push the "thanks" below :)

Download:

eliotroyano
4th May, 2012, 07:28 PM
Your interface is RL, but I am 100% sure that this will help you

If this helped you, please push the "thanks" below :)

Download:

Thanks a lot for the help KenshinPT. I also founded here: http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/vag-com-vcds-everything-99750/#post488533.

Ok then according to the transistor output schematic the four (4) transistors in the back of the interface are for K & L lines replacing SI9241EY chips in the pdf diagram. And the other two (2) transistor near the ATMega162V could replace SI9200EY can driver in the pdf diagram. I will like to confirm this too.

In this case typically one of this SMD transistors could be in short when the ATMega162V or GAL16V8 look for it.

I am also starting to read whole thread looking for more info.

teerak2uk
4th May, 2012, 08:55 PM
I have 10.6.4 is it easy to update to v11+ or no advantage

Many thanks

KenshinPT
4th May, 2012, 09:59 PM
Thanks a lot for the help KenshinPT. I also founded here: http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/vag-com-vcds-everything-99750/#post488533.

Ok then according to the transistor output schematic the four (4) transistors in the back of the interface are for K & L lines replacing SI9241EY chips in the pdf diagram. And the other two (2) transistor near the ATMega162V could replace SI9200EY can driver in the pdf diagram. I will like to confirm this too.

In this case typically one of this SMD transistors could be in short when the ATMega162V or GAL16V8 look for it.

I am also starting to read whole thread looking for more info.

In your hardware, you have 4 transistor for KKL but those 2 transistor you're saying that your cable has, are in fact diodes :)

Your hardware, have both chips for CAN (CAN controller and CAN Transceiver)

And you're right, those 4 transistores could be in short.

Good luck
Regards.

KenshinPT
5th May, 2012, 01:12 AM
I have 10.6.4 is it easy to update to v11+ or no advantage

Many thanks

Yes, the upgrade is easy.

You need a programmer and the dumps.

Regards

autocargo
5th May, 2012, 01:08 PM
If you were connected to the Internet and the program started to kill obviously working cable, it is necessary to remove d1-d3 files, and to replace "codes.dat" file.

Where are all this files located and where from we take ''codes.dat'' file to replace. Many thanks.

mattydr67
5th May, 2012, 01:31 PM
Where are all this files located and where from we take ''codes.dat'' file to replace. Many thanks.

Well you have to make a back up after you install first time or if your tools it is erased, uninstall the softwear , erased all registry and the reboot. After this you can isntall it back
Good luck
For the peaple who do not using this every day, mu advise it is to install the softwear ( no internet connection ) then after you did a dignostic it is better to uninstall the softwear till you'll need to make another diagnostic in your car. When you need to make another dignostic you have to install the softwear back, do what you have to do and in the end uninstall the VCDS softwear till next time
Good luck

autocargo
5th May, 2012, 02:54 PM
Thank you mattydr67. I found those files. I would still like to know more about those files madagan talks about... Does it worth deleting and replacing this codes.dat file ?

mattydr67
5th May, 2012, 03:15 PM
Thank you mattydr67. A found those files. I would still like to know more about those files madagan talks about... Does it worth deleting and replacing this codes.dat file ?

I just erased d1,d2,d3 after every diagnostic session before using internet in that computer. Atmega never erased.
Good luck

magadan
5th May, 2012, 04:18 PM
I would still like to know more about those files madagan talks about... Does it worth deleting and replacing this codes.dat file ?
If the cable worked with this program well earlier. Now ceased to work. You already reprogrammed atmega. But the program continues to kill a cable. Then it is necessary to delete files "d1.bin, d2.bin, d3.bin" and to replace the file "codes.dat". They lie in folders near the set program.

Or to make how mattydr67 advises. It is a post number 2874.




I just erased d1,d2,d3 after every diagnostic session before using internet in that computer. Atmega never erased.
And you already tried to do so in version 11.11.3?
The program all the same tries to communicate with any non-constant IP.

mattydr67
5th May, 2012, 05:08 PM
If the cable worked with this program well earlier. Now ceased to work. You already reprogrammed atmega. But the program continues to kill a cable. Then it is necessary to delete files "d1.bin, d2.bin, d3.bin" and to replace the file "codes.dat". They lie in folders near the set program.

Or to make how mattydr67 advises. It is a post number 2874.




And you already tried to do so in version 11.11.3?
The program all the same tries to communicate with any non-constant IP.

I didn't tried becasue I don't have this version yet. I allready have 11.11.2 version and I can use internet connection in the same time with a diagnostic session.
I do not use any kind of protection ( nothing write in hosts file, no d1,d2,d3 erased, no firwall used, nothing, just VCDS softwear installed and this is it.
Good luck

eliotroyano
5th May, 2012, 05:19 PM
In your hardware, you have 4 transistor for KKL but those 2 transistor you're saying that your cable has, are in fact diodes :)

Your hardware, have both chips for CAN (CAN controller and CAN Transceiver)

And you're right, those 4 transistores could be in short.

Good luck
Regards.

Well I pass almost all night checking and testing everything in the board.

I check out the transistors and are ok!!!! Weird... but anyway.
I found that K & L lines arrives up to these diodes:

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/3f2b497f81a93b26d94e17dd5c7b55d4c452f683938f415b3c 1e242f41a028074g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=ww7fy0wbw8pck6p)

And continues to big signal diodes near these ones. After goes to the GAL16V8, I suppose this is the face erased IC. That contrast to the transistor diagram that you share me.

I check out the whole pcb and re-pass every solder of the main components in the front face, GAL, ATMega and resistors and capacitors near it.

With 7805 out resistance from +5V to GND is 2.5Kohms!!!!!!!!!.

Now interface starts, LED blinks red all the time, 5v is stable, 7805 get hot but not as before and I notice that ATMEga and GAL get hot not as 7805 but more than should be. In fact I got almost 80?C of the 7805, almost 60?C from ATMega and 50?C from GAL. Transistors, diodes and ICs in the back are cold.

Software still recognize interface but I got the following message:

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/06e09dfde9118541e35beecb85ec6434c0d36eaa7ec0c41bc1 b6242c4c6cff114g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=kuov0qc3v7e5v8u)

Also USBView recognize interface and MProg recognize FT232RL.

Now I really confused!!!! :stupido2::stupido2:

tazman13
5th May, 2012, 08:43 PM
I use a modded 11.2 with an interface with no GAL (help gained from here).

Should I be deleting D1,D2 & D3 each time?

Can any damage be done to my interface now that the STC and GAL are removed?

Also I am assuming for me to go any higher I would need a modded 11.xx and a higher than 1.84 dump?

(cable is just fine for me, just wondering)

Thanks in advance (cable is just fine for me)

eliotroyano
7th May, 2012, 03:28 AM
Well I pass almost all night checking and testing everything in the board.

I check out the transistors and are ok!!!! Weird... but anyway.
I found that K & L lines arrives up to these diodes:

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/3f2b497f81a93b26d94e17dd5c7b55d4c452f683938f415b3c 1e242f41a028074g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=ww7fy0wbw8pck6p)

And continues to big signal diodes near these ones. After goes to the GAL16V8, I suppose this is the face erased IC. That contrast to the transistor diagram that you share me.

I check out the whole pcb and re-pass every solder of the main components in the front face, GAL, ATMega and resistors and capacitors near it.

With 7805 out resistance from +5V to GND is 2.5Kohms!!!!!!!!!.

Now interface starts, LED blinks red all the time, 5v is stable, 7805 get hot but not as before and I notice that ATMEga and GAL get hot not as 7805 but more than should be. In fact I got almost 80?C of the 7805, almost 60?C from ATMega and 50?C from GAL. Transistors, diodes and ICs in the back are cold.

Software still recognize interface but I got the following message:

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/06e09dfde9118541e35beecb85ec6434c0d36eaa7ec0c41bc1 b6242c4c6cff114g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?thumb=4&quickkey=kuov0qc3v7e5v8u)

Also USBView recognize interface and MProg recognize FT232RL.

Now I really confused!!!! :stupido2::stupido2:

Friends do you have any idea what could be wrong?????

magadan
7th May, 2012, 09:32 AM
...what could be wrong?????
In the first, cease to load identical photos, or reduce their size.
In the second, compare the diagram of your cable with datasheet a cable.
Of the third be convinced that you didn't make errors when "tuning" cable.
In the fourth, give a cable for repair to experts. It is very difficult to repair a cable if it is impossible to take it in hands.

Try to replace the GAL chip with jumpers. Replace ?tmega. Check soldered details.
I don't see in your photos, three jumpers which are necessary that the cable earned.

KenshinPT
7th May, 2012, 11:16 AM
Friends do you have any idea what could be wrong?????

I know this could be expensive, and this post won't help you with your problem... but if you want to keep things easy with VCDS, buy a cable with BL chip.

Why? Because you don't need a loader and BL dumps works on any BL cables...

Regarding your problem, I am also without ideas... So do what Magadan wrote :)

Good luck

liviudiaconu
7th May, 2012, 01:23 PM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/vag-com-vcds-everything-99750/index191.html#post1544532

#2858

piotrekwoj1
7th May, 2012, 01:33 PM
Hi if anyone wants to VCDS in Polish please contact me and I will with which it operates cable. I greet

piotrekwoj1
7th May, 2012, 02:07 PM
Friends do you have any idea what could be wrong?????

sorry for my English but if you have a problem with the VCDs, I, I can help you

eliotroyano
7th May, 2012, 03:09 PM
In the first, cease to load identical photos, or reduce their size.
In the second, compare the diagram of your cable with datasheet a cable.
Of the third be convinced that you didn't make errors when "tuning" cable.
In the fourth, give a cable for repair to experts. It is very difficult to repair a cable if it is impossible to take it in hands.

Try to replace the GAL chip with jumpers. Replace ?tmega. Check soldered details.
I don't see in your photos, three jumpers which are necessary that the cable earned.

Sorry about uploading similar pics. But I try to be as helpful as posible for the kind people here that ask me for info about helping me out with my VagCom cable issues. I know that many people don't read the whole thread. In the future will be useful to post just the link with the previously posted pics. I also can use small sizes of it.
I was looking for a diagram too but inclusive some found here and other that KenshimPT share here have some differences with the board in the cable that I have.
After that as I said I bought that cable and I was been using during more than a year without any issue, without any mod, using the software that it comes with and without either open the interface. That is the reason than I am frustrated, without notice, without reason and in a moment when I urgently needed it, it doesn't work again.
I know about your replace comments of GAL, ATMega, etc.... that something is not working properly, but about your "three jumpers" comment sorry about my ignorance can you explain it a little more.


I know this could be expensive, and this post won't help you with your problem... but if you want to keep things easy with VCDS, buy a cable with BL chip.
Why? Because you don't need a loader and BL dumps works on any BL cables...
Regarding your problem, I am also without ideas... So do what Magadan wrote :)
Good luck

KenshinPT thanks a lot for following my post and helping me during this process. I know that you and magadan are right about my interface, something is defective and a new one with BL chip will be better, more stable and reliable, but my big question is: how do I know which cable uses the BL chip? which vendors do you know sells it?

eliotroyano
7th May, 2012, 03:14 PM
sorry for my English but if you have a problem with the VCDs, I, I can help you

What do you suggest piotrekwoj1?

bibkare
7th May, 2012, 03:30 PM
You must ask seller before ordering which type do they offer, ask them to show you picture of interface pcb and tell them that you will return it if they were wrong. All selleres have both types of interface even 3 or 4 different types

magadan
7th May, 2012, 03:33 PM
I know about your replace comments of GAL, ATMega, etc.... that something is not working properly, but about your "three jumpers" comment sorry about my ignorance can you explain it a little more.
Read attentively previous pages.
"liviudiaconu" gave you the help twice.
Here the photo, on it it is possible not to do only darkly dark blue lines.

Also read all topic. Then will understand more.

eliotroyano
7th May, 2012, 04:01 PM
Read attentively previous pages.
"liviudiaconu" gave you the help twice.
Here the photo, on it it is possible not to do only darkly dark blue lines.

Also read all topic. Then will understand more.

OK thanks a lot magadan!!!!!. About interconnections in the PCB do you mean doing only light blue color lines?? right??
Of course before I need to follow liviudiaconu advice in his post: http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/vag-com-vcds-everything-99750/index191.html#post1544532.

Then if I understood in general my cable is blocked now and I need to reprogram it.

magadan
7th May, 2012, 05:03 PM
That is the reason than I am frustrated, without notice, without reason and in a moment when I urgently needed it, it doesn't work again.

If you want to try to recover as was earlier, it is possible to make so.

...compare the diagram of your cable with datasheet a cable...
...Check soldered details...
...give a cable for repair to experts...
OR.
Replace atmega.
Make cable alteration as a liviudiaconu spoke. Check a cable.
If the cable didn't earn, replace the GAL with jumpers.
If the cable doesn't earn, return old atmega into place. Recover remote details. Try to replace the FT232R.
And if again won't earn, nevertheless to give to experts.


...do you mean doing only light blue color lines?? ...
And red lines. Read that told liviudiaconu.


and I need to reprogram it.

Yes.

eliotroyano
7th May, 2012, 06:22 PM
But Magadan according to your experience and the hardware issues that I am having with cable (in the case that cable is blocked only -led flashing red all time-), what will the best route? do I try to recover it? or do I make the cable alteration?

magadan
7th May, 2012, 07:50 PM
But Magadan according to your experience and the hardware issues that I am having with cable (in the case that cable is blocked only -led flashing red all time-), what will the best route? do I try to recover it? or do I make the cable alteration?
In your case there are two assumptions.
The LED blinks red if the switch of signals (GAL no test) is damaged, or flash checksum the wrong is incorrect.
Therefore I offered a method with changeover atmega.

But don't forget about bad soldered details. It is the most frequent failure in the Chinese cables.

eliotroyano
7th May, 2012, 08:07 PM
In your case there are two assumptions.
The LED blinks red if the switch of signals (GAL no test) is damaged, or flash checksum the wrong is incorrect.
.

Then at first the 7805 get very hot and LED turns off, I resolder ATMega pins and LED starts blinking red all time, my last status. Firmware/Hardware error.


Therefore I offered a method with changeover atmega.

Put jumpers to whole GAL16V8.


But don't forget about bad soldered details. It is the most frequent failure in the Chinese cables.

Well first I will try resolder all ICs in the PCB to know if it solve it. If not next step is modify it. My big doubt is why are 7805 getting very HOT and ATMega & GAL hot!!!!!

mattydr67
7th May, 2012, 08:15 PM
I suppose that you have to do what my frined liviudiaconu said.
And try to reflash your tool first.
(It is my opinion not a thereal solution becasue I'm not a medium)
Good luck

magadan
7th May, 2012, 08:39 PM
If not next step is modify it. My big doubt is why are 7805 getting very HOT and ATMega & GAL hot!!!!!
You already reprogrammed atmega in this cable?
If response "yes". That now it is necessary to delete details and to seal three jumpers.
And also these details can be heated if are faulty the GAL or atmega. Or the flash inside atmega is damaged.
Do any operation, I can't foresee all chances. Results of checks are necessary to me that I offered.

eliotroyano
7th May, 2012, 09:18 PM
You already reprogrammed atmega in this cable?
If response "yes". That now it is necessary to delete details and to seal three jumpers.
And also these details can be heated if are faulty the GAL or atmega. Or the flash inside atmega is damaged.
Do any operation, I can't foresee all chances. Results of checks are necessary to me that I offered.

Cable is unmodded. I haven't reprogrammed ATMega. It is as it comes from the vendor.

liviudiaconu
8th May, 2012, 06:04 AM
Read attentively previous pages.
"liviudiaconu" gave you the help twice.
Here the photo, on it it is possible not to do only darkly dark blue lines.

Also read all topic. Then will understand more.

@magadan: i have a question: in your picture are few blue lines (new wires), few red "X" (removed components) and a blue/red "X". What mean this?
"Remove the resistor" or "remove the resistor and solder a new wire"?

That because i don't use this method yeth..i use only 3 wires.

Is about R51 from http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/vag-com-vcds-everything-99750/index193.html#post1549664

piotrekwoj1
8th May, 2012, 06:23 AM
I have find this guide ....is it also possible to do it like this

Step 1: Please ensure that you have installed the VCDS software.

Step 2: Plug your disabled cable to the USB. There maybe be a pop-up window to indicate you to install the driver, for damaged cable, let it be, skip it.

Step 3: Right click "MY COMPUTER", select " HARDWARE", then "DEVICE MANAGER", then "OTHER DEVICE", then " USB DEVICE".

Step 4: Right click "USB device", select "PROPERTIES", select " DETAIL", there will be a line information displayed. VID_xxxx & PID_xxxx, please write down the 4 letters or number for VID and PID.

Step 5: Unplug the cable, Go to your VCDS directory and open RT-USB.inf with wordpad or similar.

Step 6: Take a glass of wine or a beer. Scotch without rocks is fine too.

Step 7: Scroll to the bottom and add one more line as " USB\VID_xxxx&PID_xxxx.DeviceDesc="VAG-COM Compatible USB Interface", the four numbers or alphabets are also the same as the ones you write down in step 4.

Step 8: Save "RT-USB.inf" file and then EXIT.

Step 9: DOWNLOAD and RUN FT-Prog. FTDI Utilities (http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Utilities.htm#FT_Prog)
Go to "DEVICES" and "SCAN AND PARSE" (or press F5). Change the VID/PID to the one you wrote down and go to "DEVICES" and "PROGRAM".

Step 10: Unplug cable and then plug cable.

Step 11: DOWNLOAD and RUN Mprog 3.5 from mprog.software.informer.com/
DOWNLOAD and UNPACK 908WORK.rar from rs845tl.rapidshare.com/#!download|845l36|386124337|908WORK.rar|0|R~425075 F987428283DA1E4104ADF1EEAA

Go to "DEVICE" and "SCAN"
It should say on the bottom:
Number Of Blank Devices = 0
Number Of Programmed Devices = 1

Press "FILE" and "OPEN" and target the file/dump 908WORK.rar and OK. Go to "DEVICE" and "PROGRAM".
Wait for a couple of seconds.

And you are done!
Plug your cable to your car and run VCDS.

piotrekwoj1
8th May, 2012, 06:25 AM
some links to read

VAG-COM VCDS 10.6.4 - 11.2.0. DUMPS (http://garageforum.co.uk/forum/149-vag-group/16464-vag-com-vcds-1064-1120-dumps.html)

clone vag106 firmware problem (http://www.garageforum.co.uk/forum/149-vag-group/16017-clone-vag106-firmware-problem.html)

magadan
8th May, 2012, 11:25 AM
@magadan: i have a question: in your picture are few blue lines (new wires), few red "X" (removed components) and a blue/red "X". What mean this?
"Remove the resistor" or "remove the resistor and solder a new wire"?

That because i don't use this method yeth..i use only 3 wires.

Is about R51 from http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/vag-com-vcds-everything-99750/index193.html#post1549664


Your method too works.
Darkly dark blue lines are necessary, that the cable diagram completely corresponded datasheet version 1 cable.
White blue lines correspond to yours to "three jumpers".
Red thick X this deleting.
Dark blue dark lines, and red thin X it is optional actions.
Here the correct picture, previous was inexact.
I loaded this picture, because it is equivalent to its cable.

liviudiaconu
8th May, 2012, 11:50 AM
Thank you.
I use only 3 wire version and loader. If i use your version with ALL wires, the cable will work with original soft or with loader?

magadan
8th May, 2012, 12:07 PM
If i use your version with ALL wires, the cable will work with original soft or with loader?
No.
It only for complete compliance to the original diagram of that cable, we program whose flash.
On this picture I yet didn't begin to draw as to replace transistors on chips.

randomlog
8th May, 2012, 02:25 PM
Your method too works.
Darkly dark blue lines are necessary, that the cable diagram completely corresponded datasheet version 1 cable.
White blue lines correspond to yours to "three jumpers".
Red thick X this deleting.
Dark blue dark lines, and red thin X it is optional actions.
Here the correct picture, previous was inexact.
I loaded this picture, because it is equivalent to its cable.


Thanks man! i looking for that procedure!.

You are the best people!.

eliotroyano
10th May, 2012, 09:31 PM
Well I have done some minor advance with my dead clone Vag 10.6 cable. Basically interface is connecting good with computer, FTDI and drivers should be OK, VID 0430 PID FA24 and got FT232RL eeprom ept dump. I attach my Vag10.6 installer too. Next I need to check ATMega.

andibaciu
12th May, 2012, 10:04 AM
Hello...

you save me ... i have a broken vag106 ... and now i try to fix it.

Thanks

eliotroyano
19th May, 2012, 12:17 AM
Whoa finally I have read 194 pages and it is amazing the quantity and quality of the info here. I have learned a lot reading the whole thread. But with my mind in a storm now I have some doubts that comes to my mind about VCDS / Vagcom interface in this moment:
1.- anyone knows what means the different status of led light signals? steady, blinking, green, red, off? from intelligent interfaces off course.
2.- I now that programming GAL can be problematic and not as easy as the ATMega ot FTDI IC, but according to the posts 2756 to 2760, GAL can removed in favor off some jumpers, but ATMega firmware is the same how the cable can work as normal without it?
3.- I have read that ATMega firmware is independent from FT232xx USB communication IC, please can you confirm this?
I hope you can give more light about this ideas.
Thanks,

medcapot
19th May, 2012, 09:42 PM
hello everybody (excue for this stupid question)
I have an interface with firmware v11.11.1 VCDS French, I want to make a copy of this interface with another dead, is it possible to make a copy of this intreface (firmware of course) and how to proceed.
thank you to friends

tk500
19th May, 2012, 10:26 PM
If you clone that interface, soon will be blocked.

medcapot
20th May, 2012, 08:34 AM
thanks tk500 for reply
the interface (clone one) don't be update via internet, so why the original one will de bloked??
2- can i clone this interface?? and how ??
thanks

tk500
20th May, 2012, 09:43 AM
if is used on computer with internet access, serial will be reported
also dump will start to travel ...
this genuine interface will be disabled

medcapot
20th May, 2012, 10:48 AM
I read the original interface as indicated by isp Tutorial on (Ponyprog) and I programme atmega of the interface second one (clone) but without success, what i can do to successe a clone (is it yhis wy to do or not???).
thanks

magadan
20th May, 2012, 10:53 AM
I want to make a copy of this interface with another dead.....
Write me PM

medcapot
20th May, 2012, 11:37 AM
Write me PM
plz magadan chek your PM
thanks

bat21
21st May, 2012, 10:32 AM
plz magadan chek your PM
thanks
in this way, original tells you bye bye

mattydr67
21st May, 2012, 10:45 AM
I read the original interface as indicated by isp Tutorial on (Ponyprog) and I programme atmega of the interface second one (clone) but without success, what i can do to successe a clone (is it yhis wy to do or not???).
thanks

Mate you can simply read the interface with PonyProg
You have to contact magadan he can help you.
But please understand that if you'll use it with a computer ( which have internet connection ) the Serial will be blacklisted.
Take care what you do.
Good luck

magadan
21st May, 2012, 12:08 PM
in this way, original tells you bye bye
If the person does everything correctly, anything won't occur to a cable. At me is a little eeproms from original cables. And also there is a notebook on which I disconnected the Internet forever. Owners of original cables use the same firmwares. And too use the clones without the Internet. Therefore these a cable not in a black list Ross.

liviudiaconu
21st May, 2012, 01:58 PM
Mate you can simply read the interface with PonyProg
[...]
Good luck

Do you think that the original is not protected? In this case no need to use sniff and others.

mattydr67
21st May, 2012, 02:08 PM
Do you think that the original is not protected? In this case no need to use sniff and others.

Sorry I wanted to say CAN'T, Mea Culpa it was because I was in rush .....:aetsch:
Good luck

wiseman
21st May, 2012, 09:30 PM
Maybe this has already been posted about but htis thread is massive, i get "time out" displayed on my VCDS what is the problem, i have the Eprom from MPROG. Also the cable works with Vas5053 but has limitations in the program.

bibkare
22nd May, 2012, 09:38 PM
VCDS v11.11.0 Full + BL/RL/ DUMP + Atmega dump in attach.:top:

Why don't you name the source of this dump, this is not the way how thanks or reputation should be obtained

DaniXDX
22nd May, 2012, 11:48 PM
Jiji... Garageforumisthebest.

mattydr67
23rd May, 2012, 05:34 AM
Why don't you name the source of this dump, this is not the way how thanks or reputation should be obtained

He tooked from garage forum mate.
But you can thank to him but it is not his work.
Check in garageforum Amar and you'll see where you need thank who need your appreciation
Good luck

bibkare
23rd May, 2012, 06:11 AM
But of course i knew it was from GF, that's why i'm saying this is not the way to gain reputation

KenshinPT
23rd May, 2012, 05:54 PM
VCDS v11.11.0 Full + BL/RL/ DUMP + Atmega dump in attach.:top:

Thanks for sharing and help stopping the selling of piracy and copyright contents in the black market :)

mattydr67
23rd May, 2012, 06:23 PM
Thanks for sharing and help stopping the selling of piracy and copyright contents in the black market :)

Mate stop thanking to a guy who have nothing to do with this.
You have to thank to GOD becasue he want that this dump to become FREE.
And when I said GOD please think about to other person.
This dump was shared in GF by other guy.
Go there and thank to him
Good luck

tricoredc17
23rd May, 2012, 09:30 PM
On the PCB, not running a version of v11.11.0. What do I need to run?
http://images35.fotosik.pl/1405/677c2f8c0d528a78m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/677c2f8c0d528a78.html) http://images38.fotosik.pl/1583/e9ce74fc2f8ba137m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/e9ce74fc2f8ba137.html)

mattydr67
23rd May, 2012, 09:40 PM
You need to flash the Atmega first and then you ahve to isntall the VCDs 11.11.0 softwear and if you want that your tool to work you need a loader becasue you've got a RL tool
Good luck

tricoredc17
23rd May, 2012, 09:52 PM
You need to flash the Atmega first and then you ahve to isntall the VCDs 11.11.0 softwear and if you want that your tool to work you need a loader becasue you've got a RL tool
Good luck

Send me the loader? Thanks

KenshinPT
23rd May, 2012, 10:37 PM
Hey mates!

Anyone saw one of this?

Any help will be appreciated :)

Regards.

oep
23rd May, 2012, 10:47 PM
what help do you need, or what problem do you have?

XPS
23rd May, 2012, 10:49 PM
Hey mates!

Anyone saw one of this?

Any help will be appreciated :)

Regards.

It is the NEC chip with firmware 1.84.

KenshinPT
23rd May, 2012, 10:49 PM
what help do you need, or what problem do you have?


Look at the ATMEGA, or should I say NEC? :)

Anyone knows how this works? How the FLASH and EEPROM of an ATMEGA can be fitted on another uC?!

I don't even find the datasheet for this chip! ^^!

Regards

oep
23rd May, 2012, 11:05 PM
i know, and so far never seen anyone except mr lee has dump for this :)

mattydr67
24th May, 2012, 04:48 AM
Send me the loader? Thanks

I cannot
Sorry
Good luck

mattydr67
24th May, 2012, 04:49 AM
Hey mates!

Anyone saw one of this?

Any help will be appreciated :)

Regards.

As I told you a PM before buy this kind of VCDS, I haven't see any dump for this yet
Good luck

KenshinPT
24th May, 2012, 07:51 AM
As I told you a PM before buy this kind of VCDS, I haven't see any dump for this yet
Good luck

I am working out this with the seller... the seller thought that this had an ATMEGA.

Thank you though :)

About the datasheet... anyone know where I can find it?

magadan
24th May, 2012, 10:21 AM
I am working out this with the seller... the seller thought that this had an ATMEGA.

Thank you though :)

About the datasheet... anyone know where I can find it?
In this controler flash volume more than in atmega. And speed of operation is higher. Chinese wrote the environment emulator atmega. Also used a flash and eeprom from atmega (v 11.2).
So I think.
I tried to write such emulator itself. But couldn't. Knowledge didn't suffice.
Also Chinese disconnected an update of a flash of this cable through USB-port. I wanted to load a special flash in a cable to get full access to the controler as I did it on a cable with atmega. But it turned out nothing.
And in your cable, already something new. There is no GAL, probably in the emulator registered also switch functions. But can already and own flash wrote.
In the free access I this flash didn't see. And this flash isn't necessary to professionals. Therefore it is necessary to look for the Chinese author.
Here it is datasheet on the similar controler.

bat21
24th May, 2012, 08:44 PM
Send me the loader? Thanks
do-it-yourself, easy :)

tricoredc17
24th May, 2012, 09:33 PM
do-it-yourself, easy :)Hint what to do ;)

KenshinPT
24th May, 2012, 11:08 PM
Hint what to do ;)

Ollydbg 75 04 -> 75 00

:)

magadan
25th May, 2012, 01:19 AM
Ollydbg 75 04 -> 75 00

:)
Addr: 004**E6*.......04......00

:D

tricoredc17
25th May, 2012, 06:42 AM
Addr: 004**E6*.......04......00

:D

In what program?

KenshinPT
25th May, 2012, 07:56 AM
In what program?

- Ollydbg to spot it.
- DUP to create a loader.

Good luck

tricoredc17
25th May, 2012, 01:34 PM
A good program? Well I start? Little help :)

http://images41.fotosik.pl/1541/d275098b05e7c093m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=d275098b05e7c093)

zecas
25th May, 2012, 08:57 PM
hello guys

please someone can give some help i want to reprogram this chinese vcds withft232BL

I know T5 and IC8 must be removed just not sure wich resistores must i take also.

zecas

tricoredc17
25th May, 2012, 09:13 PM
hello guys

please someone can give some help i want to reprogram this chinese vcds withft232BL

I know T5 and IC8 must be removed just not sure wich resistores must i take also.

zecas

1. T5 and IC8 - remov
2. Reflash GAL16v8
3. Reflash Atmega126
4. Reflash FT232BL (MProg)
5. Install and run VCDS.

KenshinPT
25th May, 2012, 09:57 PM
1. T5 and IC8 - remov
2. Reflash GAL16v8
3. Reflash Atmega126
4. Reflash FT232BL (MProg)
5. Install and run VCDS.


1. T5, R50 and IC8 - remove
2. Reflash GAL16v8 // not needed
3. Reflash Atmega162 //OK
4. Reflash FT232BL (MProg) //OK
5. Install and run VCDS.[/QUOTE] //OK

cosmind
26th May, 2012, 08:04 AM
for 11.11.0 you canot use dup to make loader

magadan
26th May, 2012, 09:18 AM
for 11.11.0 you canot use dup to make loader
It is necessary to use time delay that the program managed to finish check of an image.
There are still difficulties, but they will begin, when will expire a program expiration date.

JetSet59
26th May, 2012, 05:49 PM
have you a name of a loader that can use delay before patching ?

Thank

KenshinPT
26th May, 2012, 10:59 PM
:eviltongue:

lol

tk500
26th May, 2012, 11:51 PM
With posted hire serial will work only few mins.
And if is that serial, no need to be hidden - already is black listed.

KenshinPT
26th May, 2012, 11:53 PM
With posted hire serial will work only few mins.
And if is that serial, no need to be hidden - already is black listed.

This is not yet blacklisted :D

Regards

sorin1975
27th May, 2012, 12:31 PM
Hi,
VCDs have an interface with FT232RL 10.6.0. I care if I do upgrade to 11.2. If so, how?
A good day.

Shmortz
27th May, 2012, 06:57 PM
You can do like this:
1. Plug the interface to the USB
2. Go to Device Manager and uninstall the driver
3. Unplug the interface
4. Replace the RT-USB.inf from VCDS folder with this one
5. Plug the interface to the USB
6. Run MProg and then flash the interface with this ept. file
You know how.
1. Upload the ept file
2 Read
3 Erase
4 Flash
In the end unplug the inetrface and then plug it in back
Go to the Device Manager and you'll see that it will be recognized as Ross-Tech Hex CAN USB interface.
In the VCDS folder set USB before testing ( nom com port )
Good luck

I'm trying this with VAG KKL USB blue and no success, Mprog and FT prog still shows that device is blank, please help to reprogram FT232BL.

KenshinPT
27th May, 2012, 07:19 PM
I'm trying this with VAG KKL USB blue and no success, Mprog and FT prog still shows that device is blank, please help to reprogram FT232BL.

This is not a HEX-CAN, however you can reflash the FTDI with Mprog.

Open Mprog and click "Scan for available devices"

Then upload the *.ept file

tracera6
27th May, 2012, 07:25 PM
My cable FT232RL. 11.11.3 This dump does not work. The need for a loader?

tracera6
27th May, 2012, 07:26 PM
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My cable FT232RL. 11.11.3 This dump does not work. The need for a loader?

liviudiaconu
28th May, 2012, 06:33 AM
I'm trying this with VAG KKL USB blue and no success, Mprog and FT prog still shows that device is blank, please help to reprogram FT232BL.
VAG KKL haven't auxiliary memory, so, cannot programm'it.
KKL work as serial converter only.

Shmortz
28th May, 2012, 08:40 AM
VAG KKL haven't auxiliary memory, so, cannot programm'it.
KKL work as serial converter only.

hm, then why it is not working with any software?

liviudiaconu
28th May, 2012, 08:59 AM
What COM-port assign in the device manager? that port must setting in VCDS-lite or in vagcom 4.09 or 3.11. (COM1-COM4, if not, you must reassign manualy the COM-port of serial converter (KKL) in COM1 (prefered) to COM4.

KKL NEVER work with VCDS 11.x.

sorin1975
28th May, 2012, 09:24 AM
well the Atmega has been programmed with 1.84 and verifies OK. Security fuses have been set and read back OK. FTDI has been updated and cable is now recognised as a rosstech cable.

So far so good, off to hunt down loader software and try 11.2.

thanks for your help.

You stuck back GAL plate?

Shmortz
28th May, 2012, 10:17 AM
What COM-port assign in the device manager? that port must setting in VCDS-lite or in vagcom 4.09 or 3.11. (COM1-COM4, if not, you must reassign manualy the COM-port of serial converter (KKL) in COM1 (prefered) to COM4.

KKL NEVER work with VCDS 11.x.

port was ok com5, the problem was in hardware, thanks!

liviudiaconu
28th May, 2012, 11:57 AM
In options screen you can select Com1-Com4 or usb. Usb is for VCDS>504, Com 5 cannot be select.
What was wrong in hardware?

Shmortz
28th May, 2012, 04:05 PM
In options screen you can select Com1-Com4 or usb. Usb is for VCDS>504, Com 5 cannot be select.
What was wrong in hardware?
bad soldering on the FDTI chip...

djollie
28th May, 2012, 07:35 PM
i have genuine ross tech VCDS.
i had to remove the casing on the cable interface to resolder the wires.
1 of the components got damaged. (see pic)
can anyone tell me what this is, i think it said 37M on it???
any idea were i could get a replacement for it.
thanks

xoom
28th May, 2012, 07:59 PM
its 7.3728MHz crystal.. but interesting how that happened.. its not power part :) but if cable working (led lights up) then its ok. Just stone in ross-tech garden for selling such interface :)

xoom
28th May, 2012, 08:02 PM
This is not a HEX-CAN, however you can reflash the FTDI with Mprog.

Open Mprog and click "Scan for available devices"

Then upload the *.ept file

If it's with FT232BL then in KKL cables they don't put eeprom with it so its impossible to program it.. anyway for KKL its not needed becouse by default its USB serial converter VID/PID ..

djollie
28th May, 2012, 08:18 PM
thanks for the quick response...any idea were i can get 1??
br
dj


its 7.3728MHz crystal.. but interesting how that happened.. its not power part :) but if cable working (led lights up) then its ok. Just stone in ross-tech garden for selling such interface :)

xoom
28th May, 2012, 08:49 PM
thanks for the quick response...any idea were i can get 1??
br
dj

I think it's like CSTCC package crystal. First you can check at your local stores.. other way digi-key, mouser or smth similar :) also you can put one like that : http://probots.co.in/images/Crystal.JPG

and put 2 ceramic caps 22pF from outer pins to middle pin on PCB.

djollie
28th May, 2012, 09:17 PM
hi
still not sure what to look for...also i dont get how i would do whith the other part and 22pF caps.
thanks for your time.
br
dj


I think it's like CSTCC package crystal. First you can check at your local stores.. other way digi-key, mouser or smth similar :) also you can put one like that : http://probots.co.in/images/Crystal.JPG

and put 2 ceramic caps 22pF from outer pins to middle pin on PCB.

xoom
28th May, 2012, 09:33 PM
maybe now understood :) (see attached photo)

djollie
28th May, 2012, 09:46 PM
which pads do i solder what component to???
l can solder no problem just not great at reading schematics lol!!!


maybe now understood :) (see attached photo)

KenshinPT
28th May, 2012, 10:08 PM
which pads do i solder what component to???
l can solder no problem just not great at reading schematics lol!!!

This might help :)

Good luck

djollie
28th May, 2012, 10:43 PM
hi
thanks for your help, as you can see your paint skills are better than mine lol!
i've added a pic below!
so nothing to be soldered on the other pads after i remove the old part?
do you know the correct components i need.
would they be available here.RS Components | Electronic and Electrical Components (http://uk.rs-online.com/web/)
thanks
dj





This might help :)

Good luck

KenshinPT
29th May, 2012, 12:01 AM
hi
thanks for your help, as you can see your paint skills are better than mine lol!
i've added a pic below!
so nothing to be soldered on the other pads after i remove the old part?
do you know the correct components i need.
would they be available here.RS Components | Electronic and Electrical Components (http://uk.rs-online.com/web/)
thanks
dj


Like Xoom said you need 2 ceramic 22pF capacitors (SMD or through-hole) and a 7.3728MHz crystal.

However, I don't know if these values are correct :) I am just writing what Xoom said... but I trust him 100% :)

( SMD 0805 ) 32 Value Capacitor Kit ( 30 ones of each value ) | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMD-0805-32-Value-Capacitor-Kit-30-ones-of-each-value-/251022968829?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a722287fd)

2 x 7.3728 MHz 7.3728MHz Crystal HC-49/S Low Profile | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-7-3728-MHz-7-3728MHz-Crystal-HC-49-S-Low-Profile-/250853044869?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6801b285)

Make sure the crystal support the correct load capacitance. See the datasheet for the complete load capacitance values and buy the according capacitors :D

Good luck

djollie
29th May, 2012, 01:36 AM
would any of these work?
sorry for my ignorance?
also is nothing to be soldered to other pads
thanks


Buy SMD 0805 22pf online from RS Components (http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/?searchTerm=SMD+0805+22pf&sra=oss)

Buy 7.3728MHz Crystal HC-49 online from RS Components (http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/?sra=oss&searchTerm=7.3728MHz+Crystal+HC-49&x=21&y=9)


Like Xoom said you need 2 ceramic 22pF capacitors (SMD or through-hole) and a 7.3728MHz crystal.

However, I don't know if these values are correct :) I am just writing what Xoom said... but I trust him 100% :)

( SMD 0805 ) 32 Value Capacitor Kit ( 30 ones of each value ) | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMD-0805-32-Value-Capacitor-Kit-30-ones-of-each-value-/251022968829?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a722287fd)

2 x 7.3728 MHz 7.3728MHz Crystal HC-49/S Low Profile | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-7-3728-MHz-7-3728MHz-Crystal-HC-49-S-Low-Profile-/250853044869?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6801b285)

Make sure the crystal support the correct load capacitance. See the datasheet for the complete load capacitance values and buy the according capacitors :D

Good luck

KenshinPT
29th May, 2012, 11:12 AM
would any of these work?
sorry for my ignorance?
also is nothing to be soldered to other pads
thanks


Buy SMD 0805 22pf online from RS Components (http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/?searchTerm=SMD+0805+22pf&sra=oss)

Buy 7.3728MHz Crystal HC-49 online from RS Components (http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/?sra=oss&searchTerm=7.3728MHz+Crystal+HC-49&x=21&y=9)

You just need to match the capacitance value with the load capacitance of the crystal.

However typical capacitors have tolerances around 20%, so a 22pF with a 20% tolerance can have a value between 17.6pF and 26.4pF...

So a 20pF or 24pF capacitor should be OK for a crystal with 22pF load capacitance.

Please correct me if I am wrong but you don't need to be that exact to make the crystal run stable...

Shmortz
29th May, 2012, 06:27 PM
try in farnell, find your country, then search and order xtal and capacitors: Farnell / Electronic Component Distributors / Suppliers / Electronics, Electrical Parts, Electrical Components and Wholesale Electronics. (http://www.farnell.com/)

framark
30th May, 2012, 09:46 PM
RS elektronik in bosnia

liviudiaconu
31st May, 2012, 12:24 PM
http://www.atmel.com/Images/doc2513.pdf

See page 37.

vyger
31st May, 2012, 02:34 PM
does someone know what?s up with Ross-Tech site?

tk500
31st May, 2012, 02:49 PM
what you mean.
everything is okay now

marinescuv
2nd June, 2012, 01:20 PM
SERIAL FOR 11.11.3?

tracera6
3rd June, 2012, 08:10 AM
SERIAL FOR 11.11.3?

Yes,serial for 11.11.3 PL.

mattydr67
3rd June, 2012, 09:57 AM
Yes,serial for 11.11.3 PL.

I suppose that he needs for English version because he's from Romania ( I suppose so ) and there's no VCDS 11.11.3 in Romanian.
And of course this is not for free how the most ppl wants.
Good luck

superbpraha
3rd June, 2012, 10:30 AM
Hello,

I have VCDS 11.11 with the cable HEX-CAN.

if someone have a prolem, I can help him.

mattydr67
3rd June, 2012, 11:31 AM
Hello,

I have VCDS 11.11 with the cable HEX-CAN.

if someone have a prolem, I can help him.
Do you mean VCDS 11.11.0 or 11.11.1 or 11.11.2 or 11.11.3
Which version do you mean when you said 11.11?

Thanks
Good luck

tracera6
3rd June, 2012, 12:05 PM
I suppose that he needs for English version because he's from Romania ( I suppose so ) and there's no VCDS 11.11.3 in Romanian.
And of course this is not for free how the most ppl wants.
Good luck

PL=Polish Version

mattydr67
3rd June, 2012, 04:31 PM
PL=Polish Version

Mate I suppose that you don't follow me.
I said that that guys it is from Romanian and he need English version of VCDS because Romanian version 11.11.3 there's not yet.
I know very well what PL means, it is not necessary to tell me.
But he will not understand anything in polish even you give him your softwear
Good luck

amaflo
4th June, 2012, 05:39 PM
Help.
I need to win7 64-bit loader for VCDs 11.2.0.
Thanks.

mattydr67
4th June, 2012, 05:56 PM
Help.
I need to win7 64-bit loader for VCDs 11.2.0.
Thanks.

Mate
The loader for VCDS 11.2 it is the same for all OS
I mean it works on 32 or 64 bit and it works in XP, Vista and 7 as well
Good luck

tr3ce13
8th June, 2012, 12:12 AM
have you a name of a loader that can use delay before patching ?

Thank

with pmaker can resume process before start patching, dont need delay

only for x86 binaries of course :lollypop:

Alexu Alex
9th June, 2012, 09:29 PM
BUNA ZIUA .SUNT NOU

Alexu Alex
9th June, 2012, 09:32 PM
HELLO ARE NEW, WELL FOUND VAM

andrey_brest
11th June, 2012, 08:19 PM
I have a loader for RL at 11.11.0. I need a monitor from 11.11.3 HEX-USB + CAN and HEX-COM + CAN...

tk500
11th June, 2012, 09:35 PM
I need a monitor from 11.11.3 HEX-USB + CAN and HEX-COM + CAN...

and I need it. :proud:

andrey_brest
11th June, 2012, 10:45 PM
and I need it. :proud:
and HEX-COM + CAN...

bat21
12th June, 2012, 10:07 AM
and I need it. :proud:
I have such a thing :)

tr3ce13
12th June, 2012, 08:31 PM
Any one program atmega with avrdude??
One click and program all

avrdude -c usbasp -p m162 -u -U flash:w:flash.hex -U eeprom:w:eeprom.hex

It works with flash.hex and eeprom.hex in "Intel Hex" format but dont know how to program fuse bits

low, high, extended and lock must be something like this but calibration have no idea :dong:

...... -U lfuse:w:0xcd:m -U hfuse:w:0x9c:m -U efuse:w:0xf9:m -U lock:w:0xcf:m

After program flash and eeprom extreme Burner read this fuse CD DC F9 FF FFFFFF55 (low high extended lock calibration)

KenshinPT
12th June, 2012, 10:57 PM
Any one program atmega with avrdude??
One click and program all

avrdude -c usbasp -p m162 -u -U flash:w:flash.hex -U eeprom:w:eeprom.hex

It works with flash.hex and eeprom.hex in "Intel Hex" format but dont know how to program fuse bits

low, high, extended and lock must be something like this but calibration have no idea :dong:

...... -U lfuse:w:0xcd:m -U hfuse:w:0x9c:m -U efuse:w:0xf9:m -U lock:w:0xcf:m

After program flash and eeprom extreme Burner read this fuse CD DC F9 FF FFFFFF55 (low high extended lock calibration)

Use instead eXtreme Burner - AVR. It's easier! :)