500c - Card Sharing

[ianmac]

Ok not arguing on this one m8 . You must have bought your box very recently, because mine is property of VM. Most forums will not allow the sale of cable owned equipment such as boxes and modems.
So when did you buy yours, and what's the difference between yours and mine ?

No idea what the difference between our boxes, but got my box in july 09,

Does it show on your monthly statement that you are paying to rent your box? (only not on mine)

[cloudnineuk54]

well i could not have owned mine,as when i cancelled they came and took it back ,early in this year about feb time

[Bulld0g]

No idea what the difference between our boxes, but got my box in july 09,

Does it show on your monthly statement that you are paying to rent your box? (only not on mine)

No it doesn't say anything about rental but i know for a fact it's still owned by VM. Therefore it's illegal to sell on ebay etc hence the lack of boxes for sale on there.

[HoTTDubbER]

well i could not have owned mine,as when i cancelled they came and took it back ,early in this year about feb time

when i cancelled mine few years ago some1 also knocked on door and tried 2 collect it was NTL bk then
i told em that it had already gone thous keeping my free bbc channels still have it to this day its a NTL Samsung SMT-2100C

[loncell]

Cardsharing requires an internet connection and anyone who has cable tv will probably be using cable BB so the cable company will easily be able to trace the culprits through the ip & mac addresses.

just use a hacked modem.

[Bulld0g]

just use a hacked modem.

Thats probably a bit easier but by no means secure.

[sakiblateef]

lifted elsewhere..

i personally wouldn't use CS on cable.. its a closed network for one..



many people forget that CS means card sharing.. what are you going to share..??
I wouldn't be sharing my XL package when I don't get anything in return..

The only way I can see cs working on cable if one person subs and the rest chip in with the monthly cost.

CS on sky would be the same as cable though if you had a motorised satellite system then you can share your sky sub and get other foreign packages on different satellites in return for yours.

[HoTTDubbER]

The only way I can see cs working on cable if one person subs and the rest chip in with the monthly cost.

CS on sky would be the same as cable though if you had a motorised satellite system then you can share your sky sub and get other foreign packages on different satellites in return for yours.

yeah mate exactly

cable cs can be good if u say purchased a movie pk and ur mate had sports pk u share and get both but it really is a complete waste of time compared to sat and all the foreign packages

[opsmonkey]

No idea what the difference between our boxes, but got my box in july 09,

Does it show on your monthly statement that you are paying to rent your box? (only not on mine)

dont want to disappoint you mate but from the VM T&C's..

"We will provide you with a set-top box and remote control, which will be reclaimed if you cease to be a digital television customer for any reason"..

i had to pay ?75 for my V+ box.. its not mine.. its called a 'set-up fee'

V+HD ?75 set-up fee offer: Set-Up fee is ?75 with all TV packages for all new Virgin TV customers (subject to status and credit checks). Offer also available to existing Virgin TV size M, TV size M+ (Starter), TV size L and TV size XL customers when they keep their existing set-top box (at a cost of ?5 a month) in addition to their new V+HD connection. Offer price of ?75 only applies to first new V+HD box set-up. Second and subsequent V+HD box set-up charged at ?150 per V+HD box. V+ subscription is included with TV size XL or ?5 a month with TV size M, TV size M+ (Starter) and TV size L. Offer ends 31st December. Available while stocks last. Existing Virgin TV customers should call 0845 840 7777 to get this offer. (For details about how much it costs to call our team, go to How much do calls cost?). Calls may be monitored. V+HD must be kept for your minimum contract term. V+HD Box may differ to that depicted. V+HD box remains the property of Virgin Media.

[Bulld0g]

Thought as much m8, but didn't want to sound cocky

[sakiblateef]

yeah mate exactly

cable cs can be good if u say purchased a movie pk and ur mate had sports pk u share and get both but it really is a complete waste of time compared to sat and all the foreign packages

Theres also less choice of channels compared to Sky which makes cable cs a less attractive alternative.

If Virgin opened up their network like sky and gave TV channel providers an epg number to launch their channels then cable cs would be more worthwhile.

[despdan]

Offer also available to existing Virgin TV size M, TV size M+ (Starter), TV size L and TV size XL customers when they keep their existing set-top box (at a cost of ?5 a month) in addition to their new V+HD connection

Looks like some customers own their cable boxes

[red devil]

i just cant believe what ive read in this thread, arguing if its illegal or not ???
of course its illegal to share a subscription in your own house.....you paid for 1 subs not 2.....or 22 if you share outside your own network
there is no difference card sharing is illegal.....but....how many of you guys have had a dreambox or dodgy vermin/nthell or ch0rus box in you house, probably all of you and probably everyone that reads this thread
so whats the problem ? whatever way you watch free tv either cable or cardsharing its always gonna be illegal if you dont pay...
get over it and choose to pay up or go and c/s and shut up

[opsmonkey]

Looks like some customers own their cable boxes

no it says they keep their existing box and receive another one.. all boxes are owned by VM.. if you want to question it ring VM and you'll get a final answer

[HoTTDubbER]

i just cant believe what ive read in this thread, arguing if its illegal or not ???
of course its illegal to share a subscription in your own house.....you paid for 1 subs not 2

you clearly have not read all this thread properly
maybe start from the beginning again
and this time round make sure u understand the difference between breaking laws and and breaking terms of service

i can assure you u wont get ur door busted down and serve a jail sentence for sharing your living room viewing card with ur bedrooms receiver ,however theres a slight chance if found out u might have ur sky sub canceled and that risk is minuscule