Is the UK correct in taking military action against Libya?

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  • cgscott
    V.I.P. Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 3513

    #16
    Sure you can get them doon the barras for a cool ?250,000 +VAT each.

    I have voted
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    • alom5
      DK Veteran
      • Nov 2008
      • 1648

      #17
      Originally posted by bonus2010
      @alom5

      Heard that the Cruise Missiles are USD $600,000 each. Don't know if that's the trade price or not... UK's probably shook deals with US at 1.2 million each, thinking that was a good deal
      i thought it was something silly like that but wasn't sure so i thought i'd go for the safe side.......looks like i was wayyyy out

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      • chroma
        V.I.P. Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 1976

        #18
        Im conflicted on this one.
        On one hand, we're already spread thin with cutbacks and Afghanistan.
        Fighting to concurrent wars didnt do Hitler any favours.
        Its a civil war where people apparently "Want" democracy, i figure if you want something bad enough you go and get it for yourself.

        On the other hand... They killed the Doc
        [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDS81Ibazdk]YouTube - The Libyans![/ame]
        He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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        • bonus2010
          V.I.P. Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 1962

          #19
          Originally posted by cgscott
          Sure you can get them doon the barras for a cool ?250,000 +VAT each.

          I have voted

          Listen to comedian Kevin Bridges.... there's a guy selling them in Glasgow for 40 quid..... You can also get a Nissan Micra....> 40 quid. And you can get ?50 >>> ?40 quid also.

          Sure I know that guy .... seriously everthing is 40 quid..

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          • thebigyin
            Newbie
            • Mar 2011
            • 8

            #20
            its a difficult situation if innocent civilians are getting killed then yes they should be help to control it as if our country was getting like that i would hope to have the same help from the EU to save us and our innocent family from being murdered cause the town we stay in so i voted yes military action is needed for the safety from that bampot and they should just wipe gaddafi out and let them live peacefully

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            • sob1467
              DK Veteran
              • Feb 2010
              • 604

              #21

              I know this is an image about Iraq but thes same can be applied to Libya. I am not English but I think the only reason the west are getting involved is because of libyas oil reserves. There were no word of the west making air strikes on Bahrain out Yemen because neither are oil rich countries. I do not think that the west are helping Libya out if the good of their hearts. I think that they have vested interests for the country.

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              • Snowy79
                DK Veteran
                • Jan 2011
                • 1347

                #22
                Judging by the live TV feeds on the TV from Benghazi there appears to be thousands of innocent people very gratefull for the intervention of the coalition forces. I think most agree it is about oil but if there's a side effect of saving the lives of those that can't defend themselves then I support it. The big issue is what will happen once the majority of order is restored.

                We've seen it before in Ireland where British troops were sent in to protect the Catholic population. They were greated as heroes by the Catholics and look how that ended.

                I'd like to think if my Countries people were being massacred by the rulling powers who have the money and weapons to enforce their will someone would step in and help out. Sadly it's not going to be a case of stop the Libyan Army and everything will be OK. Libya is going to be another divided Country with infighting between different factions for years to come. And like Ireland it will only calm down once those in charge have made their money off the fools that follow their beliefs.

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                • barrowmanandrew
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 3427

                  #23
                  see the problem is, its already escalating.

                  at first we were there to enforce a no fly no zone.

                  it has been reported now that the libian air force can no longer function as a force at all.

                  now the jets are attacking ground forces, won't be long until there is boots on the ground i fear.....

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                  • SOB60
                    Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 47

                    #24
                    I vote Yes.

                    You can't allow barbaric killings to take place because people are protesting against what they believe would give them a better Country and a better more humane way of life.
                    These Rulers only care about themselves and have no respect for life but for there own.
                    If it means those who have left Libya for better lives in other countries can return home to there familiesand there own safe culture then it is a good thing.

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                    • Shady
                      Shite Link King
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 6404

                      #25
                      Originally posted by SOB60
                      I vote Yes.

                      You can't allow barbaric killings to take place because people are protesting against what they believe would give them a better Country and a better more humane way of life.
                      These Rulers only care about themselves and have no respect for life but for there own.
                      If it means those who have left Libya for better lives in other countries can return home to there familiesand there own safe culture then it is a good thing.
                      why cant we? we allow it in zimbabwe, we allowed it in south africa during apartheid...see the thing is, those countries had nothing for us to grab...
                      Fave replies from various threads

                      1: What the fff is all that about??? All that crap below your reply I mean, get a life mate
                      2: no info on google abt the pace sv5 rang asda they have no idea what i was talking about,
                      3: Your total contribution to this forum, bordering on trolling, seems to have been a collection of snipes, one liners & asterisked expletives





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                      • thered
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 4915

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Snowy79
                        Judging by the live TV feeds on the TV from Benghazi there appears to be thousands of innocent people very gratefull for the intervention of the coalition forces. I think most agree it is about oil but if there's a side effect of saving the lives of those that can't defend themselves then I support it. The big issue is what will happen once the majority of order is restored.

                        We've seen it before in Ireland where British troops were sent in to protect the Catholic population. They were greated as heroes by the Catholics and look how that ended.
                        yes they are to some but not all i have seen as many if not more on tv cheering on gaddaffi

                        bottom line is it is not up to us to take either side against a country that is under civil war

                        wasnt that long ago Ireland revolted against the UK rule in the irish war of indepandance can you imagine the uproar if we had half the world join in to our affairs

                        we have no business being in theirs

                        and i did see the pictures on tv saying gaddafi out same as we were all led to believe everyone wanted sadamm out with the propaganda we were shown on tv

                        funny how a few years later we are still there fighting rebels you would have thought they were happy and peaceful after all its what they ALL wanted

                        or was it what we wanted to see?

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                        • gsmtech
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 264

                          #27
                          Of course the UK shouldnt be there, home economy is in a mess unemployment rising, fuel prices ridiculously high..why waste more taxpayers money on issues that dont concern you.

                          This was never about protecting "innocent civilians" which by the way dont appear to be getting kileld anyway, Gaddafis war is against armed rebels not protestors. It's all about stealing Libyan Oil and bringing about regime change....

                          If the UK are so bothered about the killing of innocent protestores..why are they not enforcing a no fly zone in bahrain or Saudi arabia...where the regime is openly killing unarmed protestors ?? Simple because the regime in these countries are friendly to the UK so they turn a blind eye..

                          Using false claims like helping civilians to bring about regime change on the back of ...putting lives at risk and burdeneing an already weak economy further makes no sense...

                          Why did so few MP's vote against military action ? Because it's an old boys club...same as why England got hardly any votes to support their world cup bid...
                          Last edited by gsmtech; 24 March, 2011, 13:29.

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                          • Wolfpack
                            DK Veteran
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 1530

                            #28
                            This engagement should be Europe only no USA. We don't get a drop of oil from Libya. Who going to pay for this? Why are anyone doing something Libya? Does it really matter who you buy the oil from. Europe and USA have enough oil but won't drill for it. Two questions: 1st If Momar Qadaffi gets killed or leaves will the people jump up and say we are free give us democracy? 2nd What happens if pro government forces shoots down a UN plane and captures the pilot does the bombing stop?

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                            • toolmansteve
                              Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 55

                              #29
                              The Security Council is charged with maintaining peace and security among countries. While other organs of the United Nations can only make 'recommendations' to member governments, the Security Council has the power to make binding decisions that member governments have agreed to carry out, under the terms of Charter Article 25.[10] The decisions of the Council are known as United Nations Security Council resolutions.

                              The Security Council is made up of 15 member states, consisting of 5 permanent members?China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States?and 10 non-permanent members, currently Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Colombia, Gabon, Germany, India, Lebanon, Nigeria, Portugal, South Africa. The five permanent members hold veto power over substantive but not procedural resolutions allowing a permanent member to block adoption but not to block the debate of a resolution unacceptable to it. The ten temporary seats are held for two-year terms with member states voted in by the General Assembly on a regional basis. The presidency of the Security Council is rotated alphabetically each month.[11]
                              OK. for those who a re none the wiser as I was, here is the blurb about the U.N. Security Council. I for one was concerned that Britain was again poking its nose into another countries internal affairs, and again was wasting millions of ?'s on weapons and fuel ( Cruise missiles at ?800,000 a pop, and how much fuel does a fighter plane consume?? ) Bu it it seems that as a permanent member we are obligated to "poke our nose" in.
                              In such times when the country is going to the dogs we are again having to put our hands in our pockets to pay for more military action. I daresay that, somewhere, someone will just consider this good active service training, giving the pilots a chance to use real targets instead of dropping a few bombs on an old tank or ship at sea. After the action will Libya's new leadership be giving as a few barrels of oil as a thank you -- I think not.
                              There a re 5 permanent members of the Security Council, I see France sending in planes, Im sure America will be there, but what of China and Russia, havent seen them contributing yet, and what of the the other 10 non permanent members?? What are there contributions? I did read Italy was to send in planes but they are not even on the list, ( -- unless of course it is out of date and I have just cut and pasted from Wikipedia.)
                              So where does this leave us?? fighting for Arabs or against Arabs and after Gaddafi is defeated and for sure he will be removed --- will there be elections and then perhaps civil war ??? and more expense?? Gaddafi at present seems to have a lot of support.
                              So after this long rant, purely because the country is no longer rich enough to substanciate meddling into other countries affairs, and because we the people pay for all of this out of all the heavy taxes, --I voted no.

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                              • oneman
                                DK Veteran
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 307

                                #30
                                As many people IMHO have stated its to stabilise the oil prices.

                                As far as Italy taking part, all nations contribute to UN peacekeeping forces. UN decides which counties will be used for any specific resolution. AFAIK, Russia (USSR) and China have never contributed airpower ?

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