American Gun Law

[Shady]

Gun Deaths - 2011: Japan 48, Great Britain 8,
.

but Japan has tighter gun laws than us.. so how come they have 6 times as many gun deaths?

and heres another stat for you from here http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-Does-Not-Work

""Baker examined six years of data from the Virginia Firearms Transaction Center that broke down the number of gun transactions for every federally licensed firearm dealer in Virginia. Background checks went up from 243,251 in 2006 to 420,829 in 2011. In 2006 there were 23,431 violent crimes in Virginia and dropped to 18,196 in 2011.
Handgun purchases increased 112% between 2006-2011 and violent crimes committed by people using handguns dropped by 22%. "

[Rodbouy]

but Japan has tighter gun laws than us.. so how come they have 6 times as many gun deaths?

and heres another stat for you from here Stats Prove Gun Control Does Not Work

""Baker examined six years of data from the Virginia Firearms Transaction Center that broke down the number of gun transactions for every federally licensed firearm dealer in Virginia. Background checks went up from 243,251 in 2006 to 420,829 in 2011. In 2006 there were 23,431 violent crimes in Virginia and dropped to 18,196 in 2011.
Handgun purchases increased 112% between 2006-2011 and violent crimes committed by people using handguns dropped by 22%. "

What gun website being pro gun site being pro gun......Never

As for the Japan, I dont know what aspects of their policy is more strict or less for that matter.

Or how they act on it? Just because the legislation is there does it mean they follow it through correctly ?

Maybe we just control it better? who knows. You prob do, so maybe you could tell me the difference between the two ?

[Rodbouy]

Correction

I just checked up on numbers another site gave, which is where I took the number of deaths.

The number of deaths by gun in Japan in 2011 is actuall 11.

[blueflash234]

its a myth that all americans have guns and they are just lying around ready to be picked up,if there are so many americans with guns why were these people not shooting back at this guy before he did so much carnage,the americans who do have guns do not carry them going about there daily business they are at home locked away ready for them when they go hunting or to th range,they say a armed society is a polite society

ps the most armed country in the world is switzerland

[Shady]

Correction

I just checked up on numbers another site gave, which is where I took the number of deaths.

The number of deaths by gun in Japan in 2011 is actuall 11.

so you cant even get your facts right?
and you want people to agree with you?

[Shady]

ps the most armed country in the world is switzerland

i read that too, but yet there gun related deaths is lower than US too..

[kianniamh]

i read that too, but yet there gun related deaths is lower than US too..

Is that per capita average or in total population?

Switzerland has about 8 million population as opposed to 311 million

[Rodbouy]

so you cant even get your facts right?
and you want people to agree with you?

Ahaha poor come back.

I corrected something I read. Is that wrong ?

Not my facts either, I don't own them.

So gun law theory still applies. No ?

Given how you had a knowledge about Japans gun laws, you must has not wanted to correct that sum of dead.


So would you happily adopt the American Gun Laws over here?

[daithi]

heres a link of useful info for people
just select a country tell you how many hunters and the ratio of hunters to non hunters in a country Countries | yeswehunt.eu


ireland is the highest in europe with 1/14 hunters
where as the uk is 1/111 people hunt

[Shady]

No need to correct the amount of dead, there's is the strictest gun laws in the world and yet they had more shootings than us. Switzerland has a higher percentage ratio of gun owners than US, but less gun crime, to me these facts show that to have any effect, there must be a happy marriage between amount of guns out there and laws to govern them. My argument is against the catch all statement made in original post that purely adopting another countries gun laws will stop these types of things. History has proven that it won't.

Sent from my Motorola Colorado using magic.

[blueflash234]

switzerland has a unique thing going everybody from 18 to 55 is a part time solider ,unlike here they take their assault rifles home with ammo, in time of crises they go straight to there post. but the point is the government trusts there citizens, the americans say never trust a government that does not trust its citizens

[Kalipo]

So would you happily adopt the American Gun Laws over here?

I would indeed.. Hand a gun to you, let you suicide.. and reban it..

Rejects with guns.. legendary

[Rodbouy]

I would indeed.. Hand a gun to you, let you suicide.. and reban it..

Rejects with guns.. legendary

hhahaha Problem with that tho is, I dont want guns, so would never happen.

You on the other had could try, or you could take that pumping you got from emerald.

Remember you loved that so much, in fact there was guns in that too.

[Rodbouy]

No need to correct the amount of dead, there's is the strictest gun laws in the world and yet they had more shootings than us. Switzerland has a higher percentage ratio of gun owners than US, but less gun crime, to me these facts show that to have any effect, there must be a happy marriage between amount of guns out there and laws to govern them. My argument is against the catch all statement made in original post that purely adopting another countries gun laws will stop these types of things. History has proven that it won't.

Sent from my Motorola Colorado using magic.

Problem with that is, you were happy to jump all over and use Japans tight gun control to use against my wrongly posted death total and use it as part of your debate, but once that sum was change and reflected the right gun control you dismiss it?

make ure mind up, either it does or doesn't? dont just jump form country to county to find an anomaly.

Swiss had 45 deaths in population of 8m we had 8 in 60mil

So per capital they have more deaths by gun than the UK,

So when comparing stats, better to compare countries that have lax gun control v tight gun control.

Thats the main argument,

You still havent answered if you would happily use US gun laws and policy's on owning and using guns instead of our own in this country.

[Shady]

Problem with that is, you were happy to jump all over and use Japans tight gun control to use against my wrongly posted death total and use it as part of your debate, but once that sum was change and reflected the right gun control you dismiss it?

did i? you said 48, then changed it to 11, which is still more than us and it has tihghter gun laws, proving that even if you tighten the laws it dont necessarily mean a drop in shootings.
how have i changed this?

make ure mind up, either it does or doesn't? dont just jump form country to county to find an anomaly.

Swiss had 45 deaths in population of 8m we had 8 in 60mil

So per capital they have more deaths by gun than the UK,

So when comparing stats, better to compare countries that have lax gun control v tight gun control.

Thats the main argument,

You still havent answered if you would happily use US gun laws and policy's on owning and using guns instead of our own in this country.

no, the main argument, in the original post was that our gun laws would prohibit the recent school shooting happening, history has showed it wouldnt, i dont know how else to represent these facts for you, crayon maybe? and as to whether i would happily use us gun law here is simply a matter of you changing the discussion to suit yourself as you have no steady base on which to build your arguments..
you dismiss the fact that our gun laws did NOTHING to stop dunblane by saying "oh well but that werent a kid" ignoring the fact that a nutters age shouldnt come into it, you try and shift blame onto the mother for "leaving the guns lying around the house", you dismiss the iras ready supply of guns in defiance of the gun laws you want the USA to adopt.. gonna run out of space for those goalposts you keep shifting mate