Fuel Prices...what can anybody do?

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  • gizmo.1484
    V.I.P. Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 873

    #16
    Originally posted by shadyback
    seriously tho, look at the price of some bottled waters, compare that with the amount of work needed to get the oil from the ground and into your car, and you'll find petrols quite cheap
    I take it this guy does not drive

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    • cablefreejunkie
      DK Veteran
      • Jul 2008
      • 1717

      #17
      Originally posted by robsparky
      I dont use the red stuff, thats asking for trouble - but pretty much anything else. Older diesel engines are far more tolerant to alternative fuels, newer engines wont run on it. But i have used mixtures including veg oil, waste veg oil, heating oil, hydraulic oil, rape seed oil, paraffin - anything i can get hold of cheap.
      my diesel is year 2000 is that too late ?
      ~~~~ driving behind you
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      • paul hick
        Top Poster +
        • Oct 2009
        • 216

        #18
        Originally posted by cablefreejunkie
        my diesel is year 2000 is that too late ?
        ~~~~ driving behind you
        i have been doing this myself for ages but even the folks that used to supply these "bio diesels" are shoving there prices up

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        • cablefreejunkie
          DK Veteran
          • Jul 2008
          • 1717

          #19
          Originally posted by paul hick
          i have been doing this myself for ages but even the folks that used to supply these "bio diesels" are shoving there prices up
          my chip shop hasnt put prices up
          is my car too new ?
          The control of information is the consolidation of power

          ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



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          • leez
            DK Veteran
            • Mar 2009
            • 321

            #20
            its about time the public grouped and started to stand up for ouselves against these ~~~~ers ..i didnt vote the ****s in.. that osbourne and cameron do my head in ..sly greedy they are ok everyones suffers the poor as usual helpless... bring it on dont buy the stuff bring the country to a stand still see if they like for there econemy ..
            dreambox 800 tech 500 ( ubuntu 10 .04)... 1 m dish v box 2 acuator ..

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            • paul hick
              Top Poster +
              • Oct 2009
              • 216

              #21
              Originally posted by cablefreejunkie
              my chip shop hasnt put prices up
              is my car too new ?
              depends what car it is,its all to do with your diesel pump(someone will put me right)certain pumps are better than others for processing crap oils than others.my 98 peugeot 306 will run on anything that it can burn.and as for chipshops being free-the ones round here sell their oil now to a refining company down the road that also refines rapeseed oil.the last time i bought from them it was around a pound a litre and that was about 6 maybe 8 months ago.

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              • robsparky
                Newbie
                • Jun 2009
                • 8

                #22
                Originally posted by cablefreejunkie
                my diesel is year 2000 is that too late ?
                ~~~~ driving behind you
                It needs to be a diesel engine with the old style pump, not HDi engine or Cdi. 2000 is about the time most engines started using common rail fuel systems (Hdi, Cdi). Check before you try.

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                • Rscab
                  Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 87

                  #23
                  English White Married & Workin

                  we don't stand a chance

                  we pay 4 everything

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                  • cablefreejunkie
                    DK Veteran
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1717

                    #24
                    Originally posted by robsparky
                    It needs to be a diesel engine with the old style pump, not HDi engine or Cdi. 2000 is about the time most engines started using common rail fuel systems (Hdi, Cdi). Check before you try.
                    mines an 1800 turbo,am i ~~~~ed ?
                    The control of information is the consolidation of power

                    ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



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                    • wfhr
                      Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 61

                      #25
                      People will protest about the prices sooner or later. Thats when it will kickoff in this country. Most people i know are already simmering away. When the cuts start kicking in it will start kicking off imo

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                      • cablefreejunkie
                        DK Veteran
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1717

                        #26
                        Originally posted by wfhr
                        People will protest about the prices sooner or later. Thats when it will kickoff in this country. Most people i know are already simmering away. When the cuts start kicking in it will start kicking off imo
                        weve started already in revolution town
                        The control of information is the consolidation of power

                        ?I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain?s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.? ? Nathan Rothschild



                        IF I HELPED HIT THE THANKS BUTTON

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                        • patkins
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 3662

                          #27
                          Originally posted by dctyper
                          get a fuel card from me (if your self employed)
                          So, DC hope the business is doing well. I remember when you posted at start up.

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                          • hoggy952
                            DK Veteran
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 1229

                            #28
                            Why do you think the price of petrol is so low in the US?
                            Because everytime they put a cent on a gallon half the population go mental ... Every US government recognises the power of the electorate on this issue and it matters not whether the incumbent party is democrat or republican ... Fuel prices remain low.

                            We get shafted in this country on all manner of issues because everyone has your attitude ... There's nothing we can do about it so we won't bother.

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                            • melloned
                              DK Veteran
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1215

                              #29
                              Tax is the main reason fuel is the price it is , not the price of a barrel of crude ! , 90p per litre tax , the rest on exploration , extraction , production , refining and distribution and of course still a bloody huge profit .
                              Why the hell have folk accepted ?1.34 per litre (diesel) , without even a whimper , when we had refinery embargos and civil disorder as it nudged ?1 per litre , have we all given up!
                              I'm now on a 3 day week which saves me 2 days fuel a week and i've started car sharing, weeks about , which is just as well as i'm skint and dreading the gas and elecy bills which i've worked out for this Icelandic quarter to be over ?550 ! , which is bloody crazy for 3 people living in a modest (well insulated) 3 bed bungalow .
                              Makes you want to stick 2 fingers up to the lot and stay in bed !

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                              • Canker_Canison
                                V.I.P. Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 3904

                                #30
                                As much as the price is to ~~~~ing high due to excess tax. I have a solution that would see the price go higher... by about 26p per litre.

                                Incorporate road tax into the cost of the petrol.

                                You would still need to buy a tax disk, but only for about ?10.

                                Then working on an average of 10,000 miles per year at 40mpg with tax a standard ?300 per year. It would add 26p per litre to fuel prices.

                                If you drive an economical car you could see a saving, maybe. Mid range cars should balance out, but gas guzzlers (like mine) and/or high milage people would be hurt.

                                Transport companies could apply for licences to use red diesel, as could bus companies that run national routes. Local services could apply for tax deductions based on performance.

                                Foreign companies/drivers will have to pay full price.


                                It may not be popular with some, but it's a lot fairer than the current system.
                                Canker

                                "Animal, vegetable or mineral... I'll do anything, to anything, with anything"
                                - The Baby Eating Bishop of Bath & Wells
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