Foul-mouthed student thrown off train by passenger says HE'S the victim

[cgscott]

Load of bollocks.
He didn't "remove" him, he threw him on the ground causing a considerable amount of grazing to his face. That is assault no matter what "good cause" you are doing it in the name of. If I boot someone in the balls because he was getting cocky to an old lady, the fact that I was doing it for a good cause does not negate the fact that I committed a crime.

Unfortunately, he broke the law. You can't just chuck people about, no matter how much the little bastard was asking for it.

Trust me you can. Just got to do it out of the way of camera phones.

Why should we stand by and watch gobshites take the piss when they have had no real father figure to bring them up. Guaranteed his mum has either been on jeremy kyle or watches it because its great. About time someone stood up againt these little bastards our goverment call the future.

Societys ~~~~ed. The countrys ~~~~ed.

I wouldve taken a ?100 fine for him no probs or even done a bit of community service.

[aleister crowley]

Trust me you can. Just got to do it out of the way of camera phones.

Why should we stand by and watch gobshites take the piss when they have had no real father figure to bring them up. Guaranteed his mum has either been on jeremy kyle or watches it because its great. About time someone stood up againt these little bastards our goverment call the future.

Societys ~~~~ed. The countrys ~~~~ed.

I wouldve taken a ?100 fine for him no probs or even done a bit of community service.

when did the gobshite take the piss?

I'm glad the 'big man' has been charged. Might make the the fat fck think twice in future.
You want to do the right thing and uphold the law then join the fcking police.

You want to get involved in something that doesn't involve you then you get charged. Simples.

[cgscott]

~~~~ the police. I say bring back vigilantes. Soon sort the ~~~~ing youth of today out. Mugging the old and taking the piss out of elders. Anyway its all down to upbringing.

Young mothers..father ~~~~s off etc etc. she gets pumped from every tom dick and harry thinking she can grab onto the "one" who will take care of the child. No wonder the kids grow up ~~~~ed up nowadays.

And jeremy kyle sits counting the dough coming in.

He was a gobby shite and if it had been me on the train waiting to get home from work when he started his pish i can guarantee you he would've been told to shut up and that would've been the end of it. He would've walked off with his tail between his legs.

P.S Im only 30 and i can see past all this pish about human rights. I wasn't given much and it made me a better person. These ~~~~ers should be steered in the same direction. Not pampered by the government.

[super jumbe]

A passenger who threw a suspected fare-dodger off a train in Scotland has been charged with assault, British Transport Police have said.

Alan Pollock nicknamed 'Big Man' is seen in viral mobile phone footage manhandling 19-year-old Sam Mains during an altercation between the Falkirk youth and the ticket inspector.

Mr Mains was then pushed head-first onto the platform - receiving cuts to his face and bruises.

British Transport Police said in a statement: "We can now confirm that a 35-year-old man from Stirling and a 19-year-old man from Falkirk are the subject of a report to the local Procurator Fiscal in connection with an incident on-board the 21:33 Edinburgh Waverley to Perth service, at Linlithgow on Friday 9 December 2011."

At first, the 'Big Man' was hailed a 'hero' by many for tackling Mr Mains, while others criticised his heavy-handed response.



Serve him 2 years what the big man deserves.

[nara]

Serve him 2 years what the big man deserves.

That's just plain silly.

[super jumbe]

Originally Posted by nara
That's just plain silly.



Well give him 4 years that should please you???

[johnboy1974]

I hope the big man gets off lightly but its right hes been charged= Folk cannot go aroung taking matters into their own hands especially on trains where they have their own police force. Hope that ticket inspecter gets the chop too.

[bobwill]

There is a petition for the big man

https://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/thebigman

[racin-snake]

dunno what all the whingings about ..bouncers in pubs and night clubs do this all the time
very seldom "if ever" get charged with being heavy handed ?

like the other train girl video that hit youtube ...all a crock of shite

not worth the bandwidth discussing IMHO

[nara]

dunno what all the whingings about ..bouncers in pubs and night clubs do this all the time .

In legal terms, a bouncer acts as an agent of the owner/tenant and can do whatever they can do to remove someone from their premises who is no longer welcome. A punter on a train has no such legal rights.

...all a crock of shite

not worth the bandwidth discussing IMHO

It seems to be quite a popular topic.

[racin-snake]

In legal terms, a bouncer acts as an agent of the owner/tenant and can do whatever they can do to remove someone from their premises who is no longer welcome. A punter on a train has no such legal rights.

no point in bothering with semantics on this subject and its legality not worth the effort imho pointless
its just the same bouncers do exactly what this guy done some go to even more draconian measures doing their "job"

being basically paid thugs

It seems to be quite a popular topic.

and secondly when does popular and a crock of shite have any bearing ?

the wombles were popular ................and yet a load of shite

lots of popular stuff is a pile of shit IMHO

[nara]

no point in bothering with semantics on this subject

Indeed. Why start now?

[racin-snake]

Indeed. Why start now?

In legal terms, a bouncer acts as an agent of the owner/tenant and can do whatever they can do to remove someone from their premises who is no longer welcome. A punter on a train has no such legal rights.
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mmmmmmmm indeed !

[bonus2010]

After watching this video all I see is three idiots!

I do believe that it is correct for the police to charge the 'big man'. He had absolutely no business to intervene in the way that he did. Only the police have powers to man-handle anybody. The 'big' man is an idiot!

In the video, the ticket inspector is shown to appeal for public assistance to remove the non-paying passenger. In fact, the video shows the ticket inspector accepting the 'big' man's offer of assistance to remove the passenger. Where's the ticket inspectors training in dealing with a non-paying passenger? Emmm.. surely the rail company has procedures for non-paying passengers. I would have thought like for shop keepers dealing with thieves the procedure would be to call the police for assistance.. or for a ticket inspector to radio ahead for police assistance as has been suggested, or at least to tell that non-paying passengers that police assistance will be requested... not to appeal and goad the public for assistance. The ticket inspector is an idiot!

Well, the youngster is clearly an idiot... most probably causing a breach of the peace with his foul language etc... but he wasn't violent or posed any threat.. Yes, the young guy may have been inarticulate in explaining. However, the non-paying passenger did not deserve to be treated in the manner that he was by the 'big man'. ( a member of the public)

I do hope that the 'big man' who in my opinion is a thug is prosecuted and punished accordingly.
I do not want members of the public taking the law into their own hands..acting as judge, juror and executioner . That's why the law exists. The 'big man' didn't even bother to offer help to the young man, by enquiring what the problem was... maybe if he had done so, an opportunity would have been given to help the youngster explain his case.

I think the big man should consider himself to be very lucky indeed that the young man didn't sustain a severe head injury, that could have hospitalised him or worse!

If the youngster was my son I'd be taking legal advice so as to sue the rail company for damages... as I don't believe that it will be in the rail company's procedure and policy to remove rail passengers from trains to their injury by force by accepting offers from the general public.

[SatSearching]

If the youngster was my son, I would have kicked my sons backside and fully supported the big man and scott rail.

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