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  • Wolfpack
    DK Veteran
    • Jan 2010
    • 1530

    #226
    Originally posted by happy_highlander
    As I said earlier I don't think england biggest problem were the players ability, it was the attitude, for all the slagging JT gets he was the only one who was always in the way the rest of them looked like a beaten team after the first shot hit the post
    They looked beat cause this tournament requires you to be fit. 3 days of rest between game is tough on a team. You have to admit if any players who play in the EPL (and it looked like the whole team does) play alot of games thru out the year. The EPL should take some type of break around Christmas and do away with the Carling Cup.

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    • alom5
      DK Veteran
      • Nov 2008
      • 1648

      #227
      Originally posted by Wolfpack
      They looked beat cause this tournament requires you to be fit. 3 days of rest between game is tough on a team. You have to admit if any players who play in the EPL (and it looked like the whole team does) play alot of games thru out the year. The EPL should take some type of break around Christmas and do away with the Carling Cup.
      That just don't wash at all...lot of players who play in the premier league are playing for different teams and still playing...teams in Spain (RM and Barca) play as much if not more games for some of the teams and most of their players are still in the championship and doing very well......we just don't have the classy players we need....and they think they made it before they done anything.....thanks to the fantastic press we have.

      Rooney.....one of the best players in the world....c'mon ffs....maybe in the top 10 or 15.

      We got players like Milner and Parker and young making starts in every game...says it all really....

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      • maca
        Mr. DK DJ
        • Feb 2009
        • 6310

        #228
        Should have played downing from the start cos he's fab

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        • zee24
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 3342

          #229
          @alom Spanish league has a winter break and only 1 cup competition, which helps.




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          • mattybhoy
            DK Veteran
            • Dec 2009
            • 1046

            #230
            To be fair Zee you've taken unnecessary flack on this thread. The thread is a Euro's thread - not just an English one. Some are fine with slagging off other countries styles of play etc, but don't like it when it's their own country.

            As a none Englishman living in the UK I can admit that my own team is shite, but I'm realistic in what we can achieve - unlike the UK media that over hypes the England team every time the World's or Euro's come around - which in turn feeds the public with unrealistic expectations.

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            • southpaw83
              DK Veteran
              • Sep 2008
              • 360

              #231
              Originally posted by mattybhoy
              To be fair Zee you've taken unnecessary flack on this thread. The thread is a Euro's thread - not just an English one. Some are fine with slagging off other countries styles of play etc, but don't like it when it's their own country.

              As a none Englishman living in the UK I can admit that my own team is shite, but I'm realistic in what we can achieve - unlike the UK media that over hypes the England team every time the World's or Euro's come around - which in turn feeds the public with unrealistic expectations.
              Succinctly put.

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              • zee24
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 3342

                #232
                as they say truth hurts...

                England had on average 39% of the possession in their four games, their lowest figure at a tournament since Euro 1980 and the figures get worse

                30 Cristiano Ronaldo has had more shots in his first four games at Euro 2012 than the entire England squad (29) had at the tournament

                20 Italy had more shots on target in their quarter-final match than England had in total in their four matches in Ukraine

                88 England conceded more than twice as many shots to France, Sweden, Ukraine and Italy than they had against those teams

                39 England had on average 39% of the possession in their four games, their lowest figure at a tournament since Euro 1980

                29 Ashley Young and James Milner put in 29 crosses in the four games. Only three reached an England team-mate

                300 England averaged 300 passes per match. The four semi-finalists have averaged 479

                15 England completed only 15 passes in the 15 minutes of the second period of extra-time against Italy

                18 England's most successful passing combination against Italy was the goalkeeper Joe Hart to the substitute striker Andy Carroll

                115 Andrea Pirlo had more passes against England than England's four starting midfielders had against Italy

                18 Mesut Ozil has created 18 chances in Germany's four games. Steven Gerrard, England's most prolific chance creator, has made six

                102 England ran on average 102km in their four matches. Italy ran 7.5km further on average per match

                86 England have had the most tackles in the tournament, with Steven Gerrard's 18 the most of any player

                29 England have blocked the most shots at Euro 2012, 17 more than Italy, 19 more than Germany, 21 more than Portugal and 24 more than Spain

                Stats supplied by Opta

                England's player of Euro 2012, according to our readers' player ratings, was Gerrard. Gerrard pips Hart to that honour, with England's back four next on the list, reflecting where the emphasis of Roy Hodgson's team lay. With the exception of Jordan Henderson, who received low marks for his substitute appearances against France and Italy, Ashley Young and Wayne Rooney were the worst England players on display in Ukraine.

                Gerrard 6.80

                Hart 6.63

                Lescott 6.40

                Johnson 6.38

                Terry 6.20

                Cole 6.15

                Carroll 6.03

                Welbeck 5.90

                Parker 5.70

                Walcott 5.68

                Oxlade-Chamberlain 5.57

                Defoe 5.10

                Milner 4.80

                Rooney 4.75

                Young 4.60

                Henderson 4.35

                Last edited by zee24; 27 June, 2012, 15:02.




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                • maca
                  Mr. DK DJ
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 6310

                  #233
                  Originally posted by mattybhoy
                  To be fair Zee you've taken unnecessary flack on this thread. The thread is a Euro's thread - not just an English one. Some are fine with slagging off other countries styles of play etc, but don't like it when it's their own country.

                  As a none Englishman living in the UK I can admit that my own team is shite, but I'm realistic in what we can achieve - unlike the UK media that over hypes the England team every time the World's or Euro's come around - which in turn feeds the public with unrealistic expectations.
                  Only 1 team zee likes to slag off is england ......

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                  • maca
                    Mr. DK DJ
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 6310

                    #234
                    Sorry but if you know your team is shite what does that say for scottish football in general ???

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                    • southpaw83
                      DK Veteran
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 360

                      #235
                      Originally posted by maca58
                      Sorry but if you know your team is shite what does that say for scottish football in general ???
                      It's a 2nd rate league operating on a total shoestring budget since TV became king in football.

                      England has an embarrassment of riches, a massive population base and should be performing better.

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                      • maca
                        Mr. DK DJ
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 6310

                        #236
                        2nd rate ?? what it's improved

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                        • southpaw83
                          DK Veteran
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 360

                          #237
                          Originally posted by maca58
                          2nd rate ?? what it's improved
                          Water off a ducks back mate, I'm not the one crying his eyes out because his country are getting slagged, calling people "England Haters" for having the audacity to tell you the brutal truth; You aren't very good.

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                          • mattybhoy
                            DK Veteran
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1046

                            #238
                            Originally posted by maca58
                            Sorry but if you know your team is shite what does that say for scottish football in general ???
                            Maca - I aint Scottish!!

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                            • mattybhoy
                              DK Veteran
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1046

                              #239
                              Originally posted by southpaw83
                              Water off a ducks back mate, I'm not the one crying his eyes out because his country are getting slagged, calling people "England Haters" for having the audacity to tell you the brutal truth; You aren't very good.
                              You're bang on bud.

                              If anyone has an opinion that doesn't consist of;-
                              England were unlucky
                              England are one of the best (if not the best) teams in the world
                              England has the best players in the world

                              Then you are anti English.

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                              • southpaw83
                                DK Veteran
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 360

                                #240
                                Anyway, let's talk about the big teams that are left in the tournament.

                                As good as Italy were against England, I think they will struggle against Germany. They lack up front and unless De Rossi gets his finger out, I think Schweinsteiger and Ozil will win the midfield battle. Possibly revert to the back 3 again, but Chiellini will be missed.

                                I see Spain are starting with Negredo, glad to see they have a recognised front man on. Still can't see past Spain, Ronaldo or no Ronaldo

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