England ranked 4th in the world by FIFA

[Shady]

who said you werent allowed opinions?
youre allowed opinions, as i am allowed to counter those opinions with my arguments, and thats the 201st shittest team, being as we are 4th from top

[yasminandrio]

who said you werent allowed opinions?
youre allowed opinions, as i am allowed to counter those opinions with my arguments, and thats the 201st shittest team, being as we are 4th from top

Yes you r correct but your not giving your opinion your calling people because they have very good points, my opinion is your getting to big for your boots since you became pink you might want to take a long hard look at yourself.

[Shady]

good points? matter of opinion, btw.. these big boots.. should i try wearing extra socks to make up for it?


all credit to daithi for the big socks line

[zee24]

yeah who thought these ranking systems up right? its all bullshit, the one zee24 goes on about, bullshit.. fifa one.. bullshit... oh tell us master of football who knows more than anyone else... where should england be?

i was quoting from an article if you actually read it youd know that

[Shady]

yes i know. i was using it as an argument against yasmins viewpoint that ranking systems are shite. if you actually understood sarcasm you'd know that

[yasminandrio]

All over every tabloid this morning is how the ranking system is a joke, Even loyal England fans who follow England everywhere said its a complete Joke!! Which it is. I really do think you are blinded Shady, England are better than Portugal Italy and Argentina, Englands 4th postion matches their all-time high, What a Joke. I have just been looking at a few Tweets and this one made me laugh. England are fourth in the world Rankings, What is their criteria? Because it certainly can't be football!

[Shady]

ok, lets put it simply for you, as simply as i can.
using the last 4 years as fifa do, only counting wins draws and losses, and giving the regular 3 points for a win etc..


________PLAYED_____WON_____DREW__LOST___PTS
ENGLAND___48_______ 32_______9______7_____105
PORTUGAL__54________29_______13_____12____100


Portugal results include a draw with the international powerhouse of Cape Verde...

How else would you like to rank teams? based on your perceived notion of where they should be?


Lets talk about being blinded shall we? OP automatically highlighted Englands ranking, as did you. Seems Fifa rankings are only 'wrong' when they show England in a good light England are my team, of course im going to defend them

[alom5]

@shady

I highlighted England...as its my team and I follow them.... Doesn't mean I have to agree with whatever, whoever says.

I'm not blinded by them and i can criticise them if i want...

....I have my own opinion...which is we are a poor team at present and I don't see us improving with the current setup....

....and I don't need to attack people who disagree with me on every opportunity....(there's other threads where you have been doing so)

World is about differing opinions which makes it fun and improves us....we don't need to try bully someone, anyone that doesn't agree with us.....

That's just the way it is.....and I think this thread should be closed now as it seems to be going the way of another thread...which I thought was pathetic!!

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[Shady]

@shady

I highlighted England...as its my team and I follow them.... Doesn't mean I have to agree with whatever, whoever says.

I'm not blinded by them and i can criticise them if i want...

who said you couldnt? but the reverse is true, if you can criticise, i can defend, and offer counter arguments

....I have my own opinion...which is we are a poor team at present and I don't see us improving with the current setup....

the set up thats played 6 won 4, drew 1 lost 1 on pens to italy who by all accounts shouls be ranked way above us?

....and I don't need to attack people who disagree with me on every opportunity....(there's other threads where you have been doing so)

now lets get this straight, who have i attacked? mods/admin have been looking at this thread, if any 'attacks' were going on, then they would have deleted them

World is about differing opinions which makes it fun and improves us....we don't need to try bully someone, anyone that doesn't agree with us.....

That's just the way it is.....and I think this thread should be closed now as it seems to be going the way of another thread...which I thought was pathetic!!

see, now this is the thing, i seem to be the only one who truly understands that the world is of differing opinions, i also seem to be the only one offering reasoned arguments as opposed to 'i think england are shit' 'twitter says england are shit, tabloids says england are shit'
But when i defend england and offer these arguments, im 'blind' and the 'england are shit' brigade isnt

zee24 and i dont often see eye to eye, but yet he went and found another ranking system independent of fifa which had england at 5th, see? hes not part of the 'england are shit because i said so' brigade,

i did a league table above based on last 4 yrs results.

see the difference between having an argument because 'i said so' or 'twitter said' or 'the tabloids said' and actually going out to find a basis for an argument?

oh and you made mention of the last thread...the one where people who agreed with my viewpoint were labelled as 'sheep',


but im blind so............

[yasminandrio]

who said you couldnt? but the reverse is true, if you can criticise, i can defend, and offer counter arguments



the set up thats played 6 won 4, drew 1 lost 1 on pens to italy who by all accounts shouls be ranked way above us?




now lets get this straight, who have i attacked? mods/admin have been looking at this thread, if any 'attacks' were going on, then they would have deleted them




see, now this is the thing, i seem to be the only one who truly understands that the world is of differing opinions, i also seem to be the only one offering reasoned arguments as opposed to 'i think england are shit' 'twitter says england are shit, tabloids says england are shit'
But when i defend england and offer these arguments, im 'blind' and the 'england are shit' brigade isnt

zee24 and i dont often see eye to eye, but yet he went and found another ranking system independent of fifa which had england at 5th, see? hes not part of the 'england are shit because i said so' brigade,

i did a league table above based on last 4 yrs results.

see the difference between having an argument because 'i said so' or 'twitter said' or 'the tabloids said' and actually going out to find a basis for an argument?


but im blind so............

Just lately Shady you have tried to attack anyone who doesn't agree with you that is so true, Your just not getting it the ranking system is poor England should not be in the top 10, You are the only person in this thread saying its right, Most of the nation agrees England should not be reanked 4th, So in my eyes that makes you blinded, England as a national team have been poor for many years!! and FIFA in there ranking system have moved them up 4places it bollocks, If a team plays 20 games in the four years and wins the world cup and a team plays 40 time in the four year and doesnt qualify for any major tournament they can be high in the rankings than teams who won the world cup!! Thats wrong. a team could win all 10 game never been beat in last 4 years and be rank lower than a team who have played 40 and only won 11!! Thats Wrong!! now if you cant see that then god help you.

[Shady]

laughable from the man who called others sheep for agreeing with me and not him .

laughable from the man who calls people blind for not agreeing with him and twitter ffs

and laughable for the man who just pulls numbers out of thin air 40 matches here, 20 matches there and bases an argument on it and conveniently ignores the table i posted covering the last 4 yrs, and the alternate ranking system zee24 posted..

you have yet to make a reasoned argument in this or the last infamous, now closed, thread, the one where you didnt get the rise you wanted by calling people sheep, and so came into the chatbox to carry on....

deny you did those things, and then come back and say how much of a hypocrite you are for calling me an attacker....

[millermick]

Not a very good way of showing who is the best team in the world though is it

[DOUGALMCD]

I think instead of trying to justify the rankings system we should interpret the fact that England have won nothing for years even though they have the money,the population size,the facilities. The fact of the matter is they have always been underachievers no matter what the latest report card says.

[Shady]

underachievers.. totally agree. i can get on board with that.


Its a reasoned, well thought out viewpoint and its correct. no arguments.

[yasminandrio]

laughable from the man who called others sheep for aggreeing with me and not him .

laughable from the man who calls people blind for not agreeing with him and twitter ffs

and laughable for the man who just pulls numbers out of thin air 40 matches here, 20 matches there and bases an argument on it and conveniently ignores the table i posted covering the last 4 yrs, and the alternate ranking system zee24 posted..

you have yet to make a reasoned argument in this or the last infamous, now closed, thread, the one where you didnt get the rise you wanted by calling people sheep, and so came into the chatbox to carry on....

deny you did those things, and then come back and say how much of a hypocrite you are for calling me an attacker....

I think i have already made my point very clear but you can't see it!! Now you need to get your fact right this is how they rank and score each team which in my eyes and the 1000s of sheep out there is rubbish.

Points are calculated using a formula which draws in four factors: the match outcome (M), the importance of the match (I), the strength of the opponent (T) and the strength of the confederation (C).
The overall points awarded to a nation are calculated as: points = (M x I x T x C).


Before making any comment you might want to read up on how FIFA rank each team. now run along Shady, try and find your crayons and go do some colouring in!!