The end of mighty liverpool?

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  • twatty
    Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 90

    #16
    Liverpool will b back with a vengance the history of the club tells u that HISTORY

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    • Lyrrad
      DK Veteran
      • Apr 2008
      • 484

      #17
      I think Torres is the more likely to leave.

      Matthew Le Tissier, er sorry I meant Steve Gerrard got as close as he is ever gonna get to leaving Liverpool

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      • opsmonkey
        V.I.P. Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 5379

        #18
        Originally posted by Lyrrad
        I think Torres is the more likely to leave.

        Matthew Le Tissier, er sorry I meant Steve Gerrard got as close as he is ever gonna get to leaving Liverpool
        Comparing Matthew Le Tissier to Gerrard makes you look daft..

        Le Tissier never won anything did he..??

        Gerrard is only missing a League medal and he has the full set.

        Champions League
        UEFA Cup
        UEFA Super Cup
        FA Cup
        League Cup

        He even has more runners up medals than Le Tissier has winners medals..

        World Club Championship
        Champions League

        Sorry, give him his due, Le Tissier won the coveted

        1993-94 Match Of The Day Goal of the Season
        Last edited by opsmonkey; 2 December, 2009, 21:54.

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        • Lyrrad
          DK Veteran
          • Apr 2008
          • 484

          #19
          Originally posted by opsmonkey
          Comparing Matthew Le Tissier to Gerrard makes you look daft..

          Le Tissier never won anything did he..??

          Gerrard is only missing a League medal and he has the full set.

          Champions League
          UEFA Cup
          UEFA Super Cup
          FA Cup
          League Cup

          He even has more runners up medals than Le Tissier has winners medals..

          World Club Championship
          Champions League

          Sorry, give him his due, Le Tissier won the coveted

          1993-94 Match Of The Day Goal of the Season




          The point being made was it's time to move on. Something both players seem to struggle with. I think Gerrard is a world class player now playing for a 'spent force' team. The loss of Alonso was massve, and he is not that great. Liverpool have relyed so heavily on Gerrard's abilty to play class football week in week out that it has hidden the real underlying problem at LFC, that being your team now has 2 world class players. You can't expect Gerrard to try and do it for ever unless he is a Matt Le Tissier kind of guy. It's to be commended that he would stay with Liverpool, although you could hardly blame him if he fancied Spain. Torres, well that's another story.


          EDIT: I still think Liverpool will finish 4th (you certainly need to), but at the beginning of Dec that League medal is beyond him.
          Last edited by Lyrrad; 3 December, 2009, 09:29.

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          • dctyper
            V.I.P. Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 2539

            #20
            alonso isnt that good, he is the best at what he does pal.

            torres will never leave, he doesnt want to.

            gerrard nearly went but changed his mind because he knew where his heart was, if you read their books you would know this.

            dc
            Wavefield Ds 55cm at 13E 19E and 28E receiving everything out there on 2 dm800hd

            previous life dm800hd and 500c on cable screw you nag3


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            • Lyrrad
              DK Veteran
              • Apr 2008
              • 484

              #21
              Originally posted by dctyper
              alonso isnt that good, he is the best at what he does pal.

              torres will never leave, he doesnt want to.

              gerrard nearly went but changed his mind because he knew where his heart was, if you read their books you would know this.

              dc



              'torres will never leave, he doesnt want to.'

              Oh boy! He is allowed to change his mind.

              I agree i don't think Gerrard will leave, but Torres? Sorry, it's possible for a player to leave even if he doesn't want to (did Alonso want to leave?). It happens all the time. I think it is more of a case that you can't afford for him to leave. He is a player, like any other player, and a foreign one at that that. Of course he can leave. If Liverpool go 2 seasons without Champions League football, do you think he will still be around. I think he may well have written another book by then. Alonso! I think he always looked best when Gerrard looked best. I can't say I 've seen too much of him at Real Madrid, but what I have seen is just good, not outstanding. Sorry he may have looked outstanding at liverpool, but he is now surrounded by world class players and to me he doesn't shine. It's of course early days, but time will tell.

              And yes Gerrards heart is at liverpool, exactly as Le Tissier's was at Southampton. My original point.

              Anyway enough of my Liverpool bashing, it wasn't my intention. I do think they will finish 4th
              Last edited by Lyrrad; 3 December, 2009, 12:48.

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              • boomer39
                DK Veteran
                • Dec 2008
                • 2818

                #22
                alonso surrounded by world class players? maybe. but when did real last win the cl? michael owen left for them in 2004.. who won the cl in 2005? us...
                but agree about le tiss , have great respect for players like him.
                YNWA..

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                • dctyper
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2539

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Lyrrad
                  'torres will never leave, he doesnt want to.'

                  Oh boy! He is allowed to change his mind.

                  I agree i don't think Gerrard will leave, but Torres? Sorry, it's possible for a player to leave even if he doesn't want to (did Alonso want to leave?). It happens all the time. I think it is more of a case that you can't afford for him to leave. He is a player, like any other player, and a foreign one at that that. Of course he can leave. If Liverpool go 2 seasons without Champions League football, do you think he will still be around. I think he may well have written another book by then. Alonso! I think he always looked best when Gerrard looked best. I can't say I 've seen too much of him at Real Madrid, but what I have seen is just good, not outstanding. Sorry he may have looked outstanding at liverpool, but he is now surrounded by world class players and to me he doesn't shine. It's of course early days, but time will tell.

                  And yes Gerrards heart is at liverpool, exactly as Le Tissier's was at Southampton. My original point.

                  Anyway enough of my Liverpool bashing, it wasn't my intention. I do think they will finish 4th
                  urm, once again. alonso DID want to leave after the way he was treated and torres has publically said that he wants his little girls to frow up and talk scouse

                  dc
                  Wavefield Ds 55cm at 13E 19E and 28E receiving everything out there on 2 dm800hd

                  previous life dm800hd and 500c on cable screw you nag3


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                  • Lyrrad
                    DK Veteran
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 484

                    #24
                    Originally posted by dctyper
                    urm, once again. alonso DID want to leave after the way he was treated and torres has publically said that he wants his little girls to frow up and talk scouse

                    dc

                    By saying Alonso DID want to leave because of the way he was treated surely indicates that he would like to have stayed but could not because he was not really wanted.

                    And I must agree I am ready to frow up with Torres if this thread continues much longer. The guy is 26 years old. It's reasonable to suggest that he may make a few life changing decisions sometime in the future.


                    If it makes people happier.


                    I believe that Torres and Gerrard, the two best players in Europe, will both spend the rest of their playing days at Liverpool whatever happens to the football club. However I remember all the gooners saying Henry will never leave. It does happen you know
                    Last edited by Lyrrad; 3 December, 2009, 19:03.

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                    • rigga
                      Top Poster
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 102

                      #25
                      at the end of the day the players wanna be in the best comps and im sorry but the europa leauge is nothink compared to the champions leauge the teams in the europa ive never even heard of till they turn up on channel 5 and co , money talks 2 so without being in the top comps wheres his sponsorships and endorsments guna cum from?

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                      • calvin plummer
                        Top Poster
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 144

                        #26
                        Do all Liverpool fans conveniently forget that Stevie G wanted to leave previously? To go to London, west London at that. It wasn't untill the death threats against his family started that he changed his mind and decided to stay.

                        I'm not saying he doesn't love Liverpool just that he's nearly left before with London as his destination over frustrations at his lack of 'meaningful' medals so this guys perspective isn't quite as far fetched as you wish it was

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                        • thered
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 4915

                          #27
                          Originally posted by calvin plummer
                          Do all Liverpool fans conveniently forget that Stevie G wanted to leave previously? To go to London, west London at that. It wasn't untill the death threats against his family started that he changed his mind and decided to stay.
                          yeh i have mentioned this before some people have a very selective memory and/or just plain refuse to believe that the wonder of "stevie g" was off into the sunset

                          apparantly he doesnt dive either

                          and if im being brutally honest he is a footballer in decline and will never be what he used to be again which was the fulcrum of a bog standard team

                          a bit like le tiss

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                          • boomer39
                            DK Veteran
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 2818

                            #28
                            typical stupid remark....how many medals has "stevie g" got? 1 or to more than le tiss. in decline???? people like him, scholes, giggs, king kenny, cally, loads more go on forever..
                            maybe owen was in decline as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                            YNWA..

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                            • mii
                              Newbie
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1

                              #29
                              Sad, to see a great time, have a crap run.
                              I reckon gerrard will go to Spain.

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                              • boomer39
                                DK Veteran
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 2818

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mii
                                Sad, to see a great time, have a crap run.
                                I reckon gerrard will go to Spain.
                                ye, benidorm for a suntan.....
                                YNWA..

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