Manchester United Thread

[thered]

Well another blow looks like we will struggle for mickey mouse cup on a Thursday night now, carraghers getting to the point where he can barely keep his smug grin hid on sky

Funny how it gets easier to take the 5hitter you become, a bad result was a killer now its becoming a not suprising event. What boiled my pi55 tho is that after 80 min of possesion and doing very little we scored 2 in 2 minutes then started to sit deeper and not push anyone forward. Why did we let them have the ball? why did we not carry on attacking we started to sit and hold and it cost us again

why dont we go for another and another, we are that scared of losing its affecting the way we play, we should never start sitting back against a bottom team after taking the lead its not the UTD way and its not the 11 players who were left on the pitches strengths which was to score goals and get us back in it not track runners which is why we should have kept the pressure on

play to your strengths if you brought them on to score goals and stretch fulham why change it when we score?

[zee24]

Confirmed! Manchester United's Nemanja Vidic says he's leaving Old Trafford after eight years
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/confirmed-manchester-uniteds-nemanja-vidic-3119884

[andy1967]

For those who might not have read this beautiful poem before(source:anonymous):

Did you know Duncan Edwards, Dad?


Did you know Duncan Edwards, Dad, I mean really really know?
It?s just you?ve kept so many cuttings from all those years ago.
And were the babes the greatest, the greatest ever team?
Or just enshrined here in this history, just a bygone boyhood dream.
Now I know you idolised them, Dad, you gave each one their own page,
the pictures are well faded now, but I suppose that comes with age
Dad, did Tommy Taylor really head a ball against the bar,
which Harry Gregg collected, it had rebounded back so far?
And was Duncan Edwards really, the greatest of them all,
with silken skills and feathery touch, thirteen stone and six foot tall?
Now there?s a contradiction surely Dad, but I?m going to let it pass,
but Billy Whelan must have played once, without first going to Mass.
And was Harry Gregg a goalkeeper supreme?
Were Eddie Coleman?s hazy runs like red blurs on swards of green?
And Dad can you explain to me how it ever came to pass,
that Roger Byrne, just five foot nine, covered every blade of grass?
Or how David Pegg whose swerving runs, like a scorpion you said,
always struck the ball with venom, yet left no one for dead?
Or how it was that big Mark Jones could soar into the sky,
yet still patrol his area, so that nobody got by?

Then there?s the team of Sixty Eight, and Dad I?d like to know,
how George Best was always missing, yet played five hundred games or so?
And how was it Bobby Charlton, who played so many vital roles,
could be both a great goalscorer and a scorer of great goals?
Or how Denis Law had chipped a ball from forty yards or more,
it came back off the crossbar, and yet Law was there to score?
What use was it that Pat Crerand could split defences with one pass,
when the ball only ever landed on a sixpence on the grass?
And was Stepney?s save at Wembley, the best you?ve ever seen,
or was it just that it resulted in the fulfilment of a dream?
So now to Matt Busby, or Sir Matt as he?s now known,
from a mining town in Scotland, yet still one of our own?
Then finally there?s the Munich clock, the disaster time still shown.
why do people say that they never intended coming home?

The boy looked up with pleading eyes, and his father gently said.
There?s a lifetime of old memories in the scrapbook you?ve just read.
And of course there is some fiction, most fact, some strange yet true,
that?s what makes players into legends, now I?ve passed them on to you.
Those pictures may be faded son, but I can see them all so clear,
as if it were just yesterday, and I hold each memory dear.
Now I?ve passed this scrapbook on to you, to treasure for all time,
And you too will find your heroes and build to them a shrine,
and you?ll add your bits of fiction, but don?t worry son that?s fine,
to make legends of your heroes and then place them alongside mine.
And you?ll understand in years to come, as you watch great United teams,
why it is we call Old Trafford, The Theatre of Dreams

[zee24]

RIP


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[andy1967]

Another year has passed.





The Flowers of Manchester - YouTube

Gone but not forgotten. RIP.

[thered]

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They keep on coming

[thered]

Whilst over the moon with Mata signing im not sure he is the answer to our problems, we are a little unlucky with injuries RVP missing a lot and other players in and out but we are shipping goals left right and centre and look vulnerable whenever anyone ventures into our half

I watched Mata's debut first game i been to for ages and we were pretty poor, against Stoke we were same although injuries to Jones and Evans and a wicked deflection didnt help.

I think the bad luck may be due to run out but i reckon top 4 is now a minimum of 10 wins from 14, not impossible but unlikely atm

Moyes certainly making new ground

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[ricky23079]

Mata did well today for us guys, we grab the win, hope we will create winning streak from now on...

[mtv1]

joke ok

[Wolfpack]

Defense wins games? Lol....... I think you'll find 0-0 is classed as a draw. Attack will always win games.... Best form of defence is attack is what the saying is....... Another words, if your attackers have the ball and are attacking then the defence dint need to worry too much.

Still those trophies in cabinet weren't from us defending I can tell you that much...

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Of course you also need an attack but teams can win with solid defense and a so so offense but rarely the other way around. If you can't defend you can't win but you could always score a lucky one. Those trophies were won by parking the bus. Ha Ha

[andy1967]

Fantastic read on what went on behind the scenes to get this deal done.

Manchester United keep Chelsea at arm's length before Mata transfer | Daniel Taylor | Football | The Guardian

Perhaps the most intriguing part of the long, complex process that finally led to a helicopter carrying Juan Mata arriving at Manchester United's training ground on Saturday is that a ?37.1m deal can be arranged without as much as a telephone call between the clubs. Several months of positioning, mutual suspicion and political bargaining, and everything was done without a single word being exchanged in person.

Chelsea certainly tried. On more than one occasion, a message reached Ed Woodward, United's chief executive, that the relevant people at Stamford Bridge were open to sitting at the other side of the negotiating table. Each time, he politely declined. Everybody in football knows Chelsea want to sign Wayne Rooney and Woodward reasoned that it would be virtually impossible to keep them sweet on Mata while also informing them they could forget about anything happening the other way.

Instead, the background to the Mata deal is a case study about how complicated and sensitive these big-money arrangements can be, and an insight into the high influence of agents in the modern business. Without them, both clubs recognise the chances of the deal going through were nonexistent. Seven different agents approached United since August to say they could make it happen. As it turned out, they used Mata's father, Juan senior, and Colin Pomford, a Madrid-based agent who specialises in Spanish business going back to Steve McManaman's time at Liverpool and, later, the Rafael Ben?tez era.

What has never come out before is that United first heard Mata was open to leaving Chelsea, and keen on moving to Manchester, late in the August transfer window, after he had picked up strong vibes from Jos? Mourinho that he would be used only sparingly. Woodward never actively followed it up because of the Rooney situation. He did, however, establish that David Moyes liked the player.

Their next information ? after the window closed ? was that Mata was so unhappy he had been to see the top people at Chelsea, among them Roman Abramovich, and been given a verbal agreement that if he carried on being left out of the team, and maintained his professionalism, he would be allowed to leave in January. Chelsea would later harden that into a written agreement that included a ?45m buyout and ? possibly still thinking about the Rooney issue ? one proviso: that the figure could not be activated by United.

That could easily have been the end of the deal. Except Mata and his father went back to Stamford Bridge, once it became clear there was interest from Old Trafford, and asked for the condition to be removed. One of the people involved in the negotiations has told this newspaper that Mata and Abramovich are "almost like friends". Mata had kept to his side, bar one fit of pique after being substituted, and Abramovich respected that.

Chelsea gave him a verbal promise, but nothing in writing, and then sent a message, via Pomford, that maybe it was time the two clubs met face to face. Woodward said no. He simply did not want to risk changing the temperature by getting involved in any talks about Rooney and, with nothing in writing, he was not willing to take any chances about the price suddenly going up.

A separate message came back to United that Chelsea would welcome an official bid on a specific day. Woodward declined again. Instead, his lawyers faxed through a "transfer agreement" informing Chelsea that United had met the buy-out clause and would pay the money, as stipulated, in three parts.

But the game of cat and mouse continued. Chelsea indicated again they wanted to talk and would even let Mata travel to Manchester to take his medical. Except Woodward knew, again, that Rooney would crop up and potentially kibosh the whole deal. "He couldn't risk it," according to one source. So he sat tight, while Mata and the relevant agents went to work behind the scenes. Then Mourinho went public that Mata could leave and that was always going to speed up the process. Finally, the deal was closed on Saturday.

For Woodward, it is the biggest coup of his time in charge at Old Trafford. United have been accused of panic-buying and maybe, in light of the new detail, that is an unfair slant to put on it. The club had, however, advised journalists to "ignore" any speculation about Mata earlier in January, and sources say they still felt as recently as Tuesday that it was far more likely to happen, if at all, in the summer.

If Mata still feels like a strange buy, it is largely because Moyes has insisted for several months that all he wants is a central midfielder and a left-back. Questions about Mata were knocked back on the basis United already had Wayne Rooney and Shinji Kagawa for the No10 position, in line with the club's explanation for not challenging Arsenal for the signature of Mesut ?zil.

So why Mata and not ?zil? Timing, basically. ?zil was offered to United in the first week of the summer transfer window, but Moyes had barely seen Kagawa at that point and wanted to learn more about a player about whom Sir Alex Ferguson had left glowing reports. As it has turned out, Kagawa has been disappointing. United, however, would prefer to keep him for now, not least because Mata is ineligible in the Champions League.

[maca]

yeah ones kissing a camera the other is trying to blow an inflatable balloon up

[leotheloin]

[maca]

Have they just been told they can leave soon .

[andy1967]