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  • andy1967
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    Happy with that. Reminded me of the Utd of old, go down, play poorly and still manage to win. Up until now we've looked hopeless when we went behind.

    Important result. Slowly going up with these important 3 points.

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  • andy1967
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    Another win for D Moyes tonight through to the next round, Sunderland next

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  • leotheloin
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    Yes we have been average so what,,,so what are you trying to tell us the rest of the PL teams are under achievers cos they have poor managers who cant the best out of there average players.
    I don't know if your a pool fan or wat but tell us what has BR achieved as a manager.. i'll give DM as much time as fergi was giving
    you know the old story everybody hates a winner or in your case a loser.

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  • andy1967
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    UCL Round 16

    Olympiacos vs United.

    Brilliant draw! Excellent tie to ease Moyes into European knockout competition. He has handled the group stage to near perfection, this will give Moyes and his boys experience for many more Champions League campaigns to come.

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  • leotheloin
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    Originally posted by thered
    To be fair it wasn't a difficult group but you can only beat whats in front of you and despite playing very poor tonight we did improve and probably just edged it.

    Focus on league now and historically this is the time of year with europe finished for a few months we make up a bit of ground, whether we can make enough up im not sure but a few wins on the bounce will certainly have us back in the mix

    Anyone watch Keane V Viera??

    Quite apparant that Keane had a bit of an agenda, but it wasnt a bad watch, interviewer made him a little uncomfortable at time when he lied through his teeth but to be fair to Keane he made a few valid points and wasnt as much of a dick as he has been lately

    I think Keane is still clearly unhappy about his exit, but surely as an ex pro and a manager he must realise he wasnt the player he was, and that maybe the time was right. Can you imagine him as a squad player?? or being rotated?? Its football unfortunately and there comes a time when everybody gets worse. Keane didnt think it was time but replacing him with Michael Carrick and 3 league titles on the spin and a champions league win and another final the year after nearly 2 years unbeaten in Europe proves the manager got it spot on, despite what Keane thinks

    Dont taint your legacy with bitterness Royston
    What was keane lying about in the interview.

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  • thered
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    Originally posted by mztskopje
    Roy Keane was the part of more than 10 year success of carrer of SAF
    On that note surely Alex Ferguson was a major part of Roy Keanes success as a player


    Keane was an outstanding servant to man utd and will never be forgotten but the constant digs bad mouthing is doing little for his reputation

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  • mztskopje
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    Roy Keane was the part of more than 10 year success of carrer of SAF

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  • HibbyDave
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    Originally posted by mztskopje
    Fergie’s book only tells half the story about Roy Keane.Sir Alex Ferguson did not hold back in his autobiography when it came to Roy Keane, who was probably Fergie's top lieutenant during his tenure at Manchester United.
    Eh!.....

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  • mztskopje
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    Fergie’s book only tells half the story about Roy Keane.Sir Alex Ferguson did not hold back in his autobiography when it came to Roy Keane, who was probably Fergie's top lieutenant during his tenure at Manchester United.

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  • thered
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    To be fair it wasn't a difficult group but you can only beat whats in front of you and despite playing very poor tonight we did improve and probably just edged it.

    Focus on league now and historically this is the time of year with europe finished for a few months we make up a bit of ground, whether we can make enough up im not sure but a few wins on the bounce will certainly have us back in the mix

    Anyone watch Keane V Viera??

    Quite apparant that Keane had a bit of an agenda, but it wasnt a bad watch, interviewer made him a little uncomfortable at time when he lied through his teeth but to be fair to Keane he made a few valid points and wasnt as much of a dick as he has been lately

    I think Keane is still clearly unhappy about his exit, but surely as an ex pro and a manager he must realise he wasnt the player he was, and that maybe the time was right. Can you imagine him as a squad player?? or being rotated?? Its football unfortunately and there comes a time when everybody gets worse. Keane didnt think it was time but replacing him with Michael Carrick and 3 league titles on the spin and a champions league win and another final the year after nearly 2 years unbeaten in Europe proves the manager got it spot on, despite what Keane thinks

    Dont taint your legacy with bitterness Royston

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  • andy1967
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    1 nill to the Champions. Top of the group. Unbeaten too, 14 points, 9GD unbelievable.

    Credit to D Moyes, his first season in the UCL and he's done very well.

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  • thered
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    Originally posted by southpaw
    tbh mate, you don't look like you could go on a run, more teams will have belief now when facing you and your team seems to have lost its own belief, to be fair to moyes I think he took over at a bad time and Saf stitched him a bit with an aging midfield and pretty average squad,
    I agree with some of that tbh, we have lost the fear factor a lot of teams come to OT just to defend and nick a goal now they think they can match us and win and to be fair they can.

    What im saying is though is in context as we had a run 2 defeats some want Moyes out but if the next matches are 4 or 5 wins on the spin it all gets forgot about.

    Not sure Moyes has been a bit stiched up though with an ageing squad, yes we need a midfielder but we have plenty of youth, and it is same squad that pissed last years league. I dont think anyone would be saying much if we had won our last 2 games

    Btw unlucky v arsenal you played well, i am a closet blue

    @ leo

    Maybe he tried, maybe Pogba was earmarked for a slot but how do you replace Scholes?? BTW Carrick was our best player last season and Rooneys been tried in midfield, he is not good enough and by his own admission doesn't want to play there, One of the reasons he wanted to leave apparantly

    Its ok saying sign a player, they have to fit.

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  • leotheloin
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    Originally posted by thered
    If you look at the big picture its not all doom and gloom yet. A few wins on the bounce and we are back in it, it was only a few games ago we beat Arsenal and everyone was saying we are back in it. Its a 38 game season there is plenty of games left

    Look at the league the only teams who are benefitting are the teams who have not changed manager, Arsenal, liverpool even saints, ourselves, Chelsea and City are all struggling and all changed manager i dont think its a coincidence

    I also think Moyes is out of his depth, I think his main problem is the players. When he talks do they respect him? what has he won? we know better than him, we are already winners, and they may have a point, but i think he can turn it around, he needs to earn the respect though and thats by winning so its catch 22

    IMO we wouldnt have lost either of the last 2 if Carrick was playing, the midfield is woeful and it is leaving us struggling in games, the passing is loose and if teams harass us we struggle and lose the ball.

    Midfield needs addressing asap but we are not a bad team over night 2 defeats in a row dont make a season as dont to wins, form will improve and we will kick on.
    We are average at the moment and every team we play knows that.. the good thing is we are not getting hammered so that gives us hope. You say if carrick was playing we may not have lost the last 2 games imo the guy doesn't do it for me he is a left right side passer and when he dose play it upfront it's waste of a ball. Why doesn't he play rooney in mf we all know he's a great passer of a ball and will chase the game for the full ninthy minutes. BTW why didn't fergi invest in mf when scholes retired first time

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  • southpaw
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    Originally posted by thered
    If you look at the big picture its not all doom and gloom yet. A few wins on the bounce and we are back in it, it was only a few games ago we beat Arsenal and everyone was saying we are back in it. Its a 38 game season there is plenty of games left

    Look at the league the only teams who are benefitting are the teams who have not changed manager, Arsenal, liverpool even saints, ourselves, Chelsea and City are all struggling and all changed manager i dont think its a coincidence

    I also think Moyes is out of his depth, I think his main problem is the players. When he talks do they respect him? what has he won? we know better than him, we are already winners, and they may have a point, but i think he can turn it around, he needs to earn the respect though and thats by winning so its catch 22

    IMO we wouldnt have lost either of the last 2 if Carrick was playing, the midfield is woeful and it is leaving us struggling in games, the passing is loose and if teams harass us we struggle and lose the ball.

    Midfield needs addressing asap but we are not a bad team over night 2 defeats in a row dont make a season as dont to wins, form will improve and we will kick on.
    tbh mate, you don't look like you could go on a run, more teams will have belief now when facing you and your team seems to have lost its own belief, to be fair to moyes I think he took over at a bad time and Saf stitched him a bit with an aging midfield and pretty average squad,

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  • thered
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    If you look at the big picture its not all doom and gloom yet. A few wins on the bounce and we are back in it, it was only a few games ago we beat Arsenal and everyone was saying we are back in it. Its a 38 game season there is plenty of games left

    Look at the league the only teams who are benefitting are the teams who have not changed manager, Arsenal, liverpool even saints, ourselves, Chelsea and City are all struggling and all changed manager i dont think its a coincidence

    I also think Moyes is out of his depth, I think his main problem is the players. When he talks do they respect him? what has he won? we know better than him, we are already winners, and they may have a point, but i think he can turn it around, he needs to earn the respect though and thats by winning so its catch 22

    IMO we wouldnt have lost either of the last 2 if Carrick was playing, the midfield is woeful and it is leaving us struggling in games, the passing is loose and if teams harass us we struggle and lose the ball.

    Midfield needs addressing asap but we are not a bad team over night 2 defeats in a row dont make a season as dont to wins, form will improve and we will kick on.

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