Manchester United Thread

[calvin plummer]

Mate I'm forest, if is the only word I've known since the late 80s and as for your fact, listen to his interview yesterday silly billy, or even after spurs

[thered]

reports in papers today saying fergie has one year left the jose moriniho is on his way talking like its a done deal

now i like him as a person he causes a stir and always shakes things up a bit but i dont want to play football like chelsea did when he was there he is very negative coach although a succesful one his brand of football is boredom

but if he can change his style im all for him, any other thoughts

[calvin plummer]

A winner, though his first thought is not to lose........not what I expect from United, efficient rather than stylish. Imagine a rafa who can actually do his job

[aftermath]

reports in papers today saying fergie has one year left the jose moriniho is on his way talking like its a done deal

now i like him as a person he causes a stir and always shakes things up a bit but i dont want to play football like chelsea did when he was there he is very negative coach although a succesful one his brand of football is boredom

but if he can change his style im all for him, any other thoughts

i would give Brian Kidd a chance, or maybe Martin o Neil, and lets not forget Fergies old mate Harry Redknap, he has done wonders and is not recognised. for it.

[koppit]

catch up my arse you had a better sqaud when benitez joined

this is a FACT you won the CL in 2005 with houliers squad only alonso and garcia were benitez signings,the sqad was runners up in the PL in only 2002 and won a treble in 2001

you are trying to make out that benitez built you up from nothing i must have missed something were you in the second division or battling relegation when fat man joined

i think danny murphy was better than alonso and garcia put together and still is he got rid of him why?

sorry m8 if your not able to comprehend a sentence. benitez was trying to catch up if im right you had won the league 9 times when he joined, im not saying thats a fact but it probably is. the FACT is you already had a winning team and were continuing to add to it, everyone was spending money to catch up or as for houlliers team , why was he sacked again.

[thered]

i would give Brian Kidd a chance, or maybe Martin o Neil, and lets not forget Fergies old mate Harry Redknap, he has done wonders and is not recognised. for it.

brian kidd ~~~~in hell m8 he is a coach for a reason hes not management material remember blackburn

i like redknapp and oneil tho but neither have much experience at the highest level redknapp likes wheeling and dealing at the market and oneil likes the over 30's

this is the biggest club in the country and we cant afford to do management trials football has moved on now we need someone who can come straight in and more or less guarantee success one thing for sure is nobody will get 4 years to win a trophy like fergie

[ruudvandan]

reports in papers today saying fergie has one year left the jose moriniho is on his way talking like its a done deal

now i like him as a person he causes a stir and always shakes things up a bit but i dont want to play football like chelsea did when he was there he is very negative coach although a succesful one his brand of football is boredom

but if he can change his style im all for him, any other thoughts

Mourinho is the one for me. I agree that I wouldn't like to see his negative tactics, but filling Fergie's shoes is a massive job and for me, Mourinho is the only manager in the world who won't be fazed by this mammoth task. I believe that Mourinho genuinely thinks that he is the best manager in the world and this is the confidence that is needed to take over from Fergie and he would instantly command the respect of the players. If it doesn't work out then we could bring someone else in and the pressure won't be as great.

i would give Brian Kidd a chance, or maybe Martin o Neil, and lets not forget Fergies old mate Harry Redknap, he has done wonders and is not recognised. for it.

I would agree with the selection of Martin O'Neill at a later date if it doesn't work out with Mourinho, but taking over from Fergie will be too much for him.

I also wouldn't mind Harry Redknapp, but at his age he would only be in there for the short term and the board will be looking for someone to lead the team for the next 10 years.

[thered]

sorry m8 if your not able to comprehend a sentence. benitez was trying to catch up if im right you had won the league 9 times when he joined, im not saying thats a fact but it probably is. the FACT is you already had a winning team and were continuing to add to it, everyone was spending money to catch up or as for houlliers team , why was he sacked again.

i can comprehend sentences alright i got a c in english

you said benitez was playing catch up

so ok you won the CL final in 2005 in his first season you already caught up in fact you over took us cos we won ~~~~ all in 2005

and then only the mickey mouse cup in 2006 when you won the fa cup

so i dont see where your arguement bears any fruit

in his first year you won the biggest trophy in club football,he has spent more money than fergie in his time at anfield and now realistically your only fighting for a europa league spot with a very small chance of coming 4th

so yeh your arguements based on pure fantasy i can comprehend its simple

more money spent and moved further backwards than when he started therefore i can safely deduce that he is worse in the transfer market than Mr Ferguson as the last few seasons probably show

what was that about people in glass houses

[koppit]

i can comprehend sentences alright i got a c in english

you said benitez was playing catch up

so ok you won the CL final in 2005 in his first season you already caught up in fact you over took us cos we won ~~~~ all in 2005

and then only the mickey mouse cup in 2006 when you won the fa cup

so i dont see where your arguement bears any fruit

in his first year you won the biggest trophy in club football,he has spent more money than fergie in his time at anfield and now realistically your only fighting for a europa league spot with a very small chance of coming 4th

so yeh your arguements based on pure fantasy i can comprehend its simple

more money spent and moved further backwards than when he started therefore i can safely deduce that he is worse in the transfer market than Mr Ferguson as the last few seasons probably show

what was that about people in glass houses

try reading the posts again, in the first two posts i simply poked fun at some of fergies buys in response to a post about berbatov. later i said fergie was as hit and miss as anyone
then i had to clarify that we are trying to catch up to united as they are winning the prem and we are not. trophies are nice but the title is the holly grail. at each stage you seem to have read something which is not there. the glass houses thing should explain itself, in fact i thought i made it clear.

[thered]

try reading the posts again, in the first two posts i simply poked fun at some of fergies buys in response to a post about berbatov. later i said fergie was as hit and miss as anyone
then i had to clarify that we are trying to catch up to united as they are winning the prem and we are not. trophies are nice but the title is the holly grail. at each stage you seem to have read something which is not there. the glass houses thing should explain itself, in fact i thought i made it clear.

i dont see where this is going we wernt champions when rafa took over at liverpool neither the next year or one after that

you poked fun and stated some of fergies signings were 5hite i know ive seen em

i replied by saying that he's not as bad as rafa who has spent more money in the same period

you said basically that yeh because we were so 5hit rafa had to spend miles more to catch up to where we were

then i said that not really your team wasnt that bad to start with you won the CL in his first season with virtually all houliers players

now your saying basically that the CL doesnt count cos the premier is the holy grail

well in 2004 arsenal were champs not us WE COME 3RD they were the so called invincibles so we had to catch them up same as you and we never won the league again till 2007 3 years without a title

so we were in the same boat as you chasing the so called "holy grail" when rafa took over your lot the problem with rafa is the longer he has to build a squad the worse it seems to get

[boomer39]

3 years without the title!! hardly catch up with chelsea or arsenal!! we had gone 17years!!! and still waiting!
dudek/pepe? kewell/babel? traore/johnson? and one or two more.. who would you prefer??????????

[thered]

3 years without the title!! hardly catch up with chelsea or arsenal!! we had gone 17years!!! and still waiting!
dudek/pepe? kewell/babel? traore/johnson? and one or two more.. who would you prefer??????????

yeh your right boomer you won more with dudek kewell and traore you also waited 20 years (longer than 17) for european cup success so maybe you have answered for me cos your worse now

all i have stated is that fergie has spent less money than benitez in the same period

the feeble arguement coming back is that we had a better team in the league so benitez had to spend more to catch up

your squad finished ahead of us in 2002 so you were hardly playing catch up

the arguement is a crock as you all know and your managers taking you further back than when he started

i now find it funny too how you are all slating your 2005 europen cup winners team now and saying its only the league that counts because the only thing you lot ever talk about is five times blah blah its our trophy blah blah

you change the arguement to suit

[boomer39]

2002 ?? who was in charge at anfield???
would you like kewell in your team? traore?..
i never mention/ed money because it is irrelevent. how much did "wn" spend on giggs, scholes, beckham, etc...? sweet sod all..same as carra and stevie... luck or good management???
we won 5 cups in 1 year under gh, but he had gone as far as he could by 2004. last season we were 2nd...would you really have expected us to have had a season like we have had? i wouldnt and i dont think most lfc fans would not have...but its a fact now... we MAY finish 4th but we will stil l be in europe next season. hardly a complete failure!
btw we had to wait for 21 years between ec success.. you waited 31 years... you waited 26 years between league success...we've only waited 20 years!!!
still catching up with our success !!!!!!!!!!!

[koppit]

i dont see where this is going we wernt champions when rafa took over at liverpool neither the next year or one after that

you poked fun and stated some of fergies signings were 5hite i know ive seen em

i replied by saying that he's not as bad as rafa who has spent more money in the same period

you said basically that yeh because we were so 5hit rafa had to spend miles more to catch up to where we were

then i said that not really your team wasnt that bad to start with you won the CL in his first season with virtually all houliers players

now your saying basically that the CL doesnt count cos the premier is the holy grail

well in 2004 arsenal were champs not us WE COME 3RD they were the so called invincibles so we had to catch them up same as you and we never won the league again till 2007 3 years without a title

so we were in the same boat as you chasing the so called "holy grail" when rafa took over your lot the problem with rafa is the longer he has to build a squad the worse it seems to get

to some people the champions league is the be all and end all feel free to show me a post by me where i have said that. the only thing i want lfc to win is the prem. i dont understand your need to bolster your point of view with irrelevant football trivia. despite the fact you weren't champions we had to and still have to buy players in order to try to win the title as does everyone else. if utd dont win the title for the next 5 years will you expect your board to sit back and do nothing. will you call for saf to retire.how long will you give his replacement if he doesn't win it. if your old enough did you sit through the 70s and 80s content with a couple of fa cups, thats of mem so i could be wrong,if the answer is no then you fit with every utd fan i work with and thats a lot and every lpool fan i know. if you answered yes then your in the wrong place

[thered]

2002 ?? who was in charge at anfield???
would you like kewell in your team? traore?..

houlier was in charge you jumped into a bit of debate that centred around fergies 5hit signings

all i did was make the point that rafa has spent more money than fergie in the same era so who made the most 5hit signings obviously rafa as recent success shows

i used the 2002 stat to show that you were not light years behind as you seem to suggest i also used your 2005 CL squad as a stat you were kings of eurpoe with your supposedly 5hit squad that was light years behind us

the stats prove you were not as far behind as you all make out and then you mock your 5 times as now irrelevant basically saying your team was 5hit then and we were still miles better cos we won ~~~~ all that year

remind me what you won with kewell and traore and remind me now what you won after he wasted more money not much thats for sure

i never mention/ed money because it is irrelevent. how much did "wn" spend on giggs, scholes, beckham, etc...? sweet sod all..same as carra and stevie... luck or good management???

both if were honest some managers as fergie did invest in youth and give them a chance we got rid of hughes,ince and kanchelskis to help bring them through good luck and good judgement was needed

david beckam left in 2003 by the way which is worse than comparing my 2002 stat that you jumped on i though we were comparing squads when benitez took over at least most from the 2002 squad were still playing for liverpool something beckam wasnt

if we were comparing youth before benitez turned up yeh you had owen and mcmanaman too

we won 5 cups in 1 year under gh, but he had gone as far as he could by 2004. last season we were 2nd...would you really have expected us to have had a season like we have had? i wouldnt and i dont think most lfc fans would not have...but its a fact now... we MAY finish 4th but we will stil l be in europe next season. hardly a complete failure!
btw we had to wait for 21 years between ec success.. you waited 31 years... you waited 26 years between league success...we've only waited 20 years!!!
still catching up with our success !!!!!!!!!!!

yeh but the the thing is we are catching up and how many years who won what is iirelevant its tit for tat

its not what this was debate is about its to do with fergusons signings getting mocked when benitez has done much worse his record and money spent proves it

then after that the line was changed too he had to spend miles more cos we were 5hite

at this point in time your going backwards and his signings are 5hite and i find it quite amusing that you will all agree in your own thread but but in this thread your all jumping to his defence

stick to your guns lads instead of changing the goalposts