To quote the great Brian Clough (who along with Stein and Paisley deserved a knighthood a thousand times more than smith) - "anybody who can do more than make a jumper in Leicester is a genius"
Walter smith should he be knighted???
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As per usual United fans have a short memory, you were all calling for his head. You all wanted Fergie out and indeed he was 90mins away from being sacked if only we'd beaten you in the cup, life would have been very different.
With all his resources he only has the same number of European Cups as BC and one of them barely counts as you weren't champions! Plus you get a go each year, so really not that impressive for the 'biggest team in the world'Comment
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are you on speaking terms with martin edwards do you know him well?As per usual United fans have a short memory, you were all calling for his head. You all wanted Fergie out and indeed he was 90mins away from being sacked if only we'd beaten you in the cup, life would have been very different.
With all his resources he only has the same number of European Cups as BC and one of them barely counts as you weren't champions! Plus you get a go each year, so really not that impressive for the 'biggest team in the world'
he proved himself with aberdeen who didnt have as much resources as forest im not saying clougie shouldnt have been knighted or paisley what im saying is Fergusons record as manager is greater than anyones
clough went stale and didnt dare leave in case he became a failure which ultimately he did he went and tried a big club before in leeds and couldnt handle itLast edited by thered; 17 May, 2010, 13:52.Comment
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sad to say agree with you 100%. whisky nose did a great job at aberdeen which was the reason you got him. but he was not an overnight success with you was he? who would be?? it took him 5 years to suceed but has continued to win all the major trophies. i would never knock theguy for his achievments but still hate hime with a vengence.... naturally.are you on speaking terms with martin edwards do you know him well?
he proved himself with aberdeen who didnt have as much resources as forest im not saying clougie shouldnt have been knighted or paisley what im saying is Fergusons record as manager is greater than anyones
clough went stale and didnt dare leave in case he became a failure which ultimately he did he went and tried a big club before in leeds and couldnt handle it
as for "sir walter"??? whats the scottish equivilent?? laird of the gorbals? absolutley no comparison between the english and scottish leagues.. but as i've said before on other posts, would love the 2 of them to play in england... but dont think it will ever happen...YNWA..Comment
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now im not getting into a debate about who should and who shouldnt be knighted and paisly,stein and clough have all done great things and maybe deserve a knighthood but to say that if ferguson has got one so they should is off the mark for me
stein won nothing else apart from a cup with dunfermline his only accompishments were with celtic who are more or less guaranteed at least second every year
paisly liverpools most succesful manager probably of the 3 mentioned deserves a knighthood more then most but he only managed and had success at one club and inherited his side from shankly it didnt need building
clough remarkable what he did at forest and derby in the beginning he failed miserably at leeds and took forest down eventually he ruined himself and his reputation by staying on too long
only ferguson has had continued success at two clubs aberdeen and united his stint at aberdeen was made more remarkable that he won something by not managing rangers or celtic and is STILL the last manager to win the league in scotland that wasnt from rangers and celtic
he then made manchester united all be it after a shaky start the dominant force of english football and is the most succesful manager in british football
nobody gets close to fergusons trophy cabinet not busby,stein,shankly clough or paisly so how do you compare him
Mate, I'm not getting into a debate either about these 4 great managers, all deserve knighthoods in my book.
Totally agree with what you said about Fergie at Aberdeen & what he's done at Man U over a sustained period is special, though he has had an awful lot of dosh to spend...
What Clough did at Derby was great, what he did at Forrest was amazing. 2 European cups on the bounce with a provincial club!
Paisley winning 3 European cups & other european competitions, along with league titles is an amazing record, though I do agree he didn't have to build from scratch, he carried on the work that Shankly started.
Stein was of course the first to win the big cup. He did it with a team all born within 30 miles of Parkhead, which is something that will never be emulated by another club. He dominted in Scotland at a time when Scottish football was strong and it wasn't a 2 horse race. Dunfirmlin semi's in European Cup winners cup, Dundee semi's in European Cup & fairs cup, Rangers 3 times runners up in cup winners cup & winners once. I'm not saying it was the best league in the world, but it wasn't what it is now.Comment
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Mate, I'm not getting into a debate either about these 4 great managers, all deserve knighthoods in my book.
Totally agree with what you said about Fergie at Aberdeen & what he's done at Man U over a sustained period is special, though he has had an awful lot of dosh to spend...
What Clough did at Derby was great, what he did at Forrest was amazing. 2 European cups on the bounce with a provincial club!
Paisley winning 3 European cups & other european competitions, along with league titles is an amazing record, though I do agree he didn't have to build from scratch, he carried on the work that Shankly started.
Stein was of course the first to win the big cup. He did it with a team all born within 30 miles of Parkhead, which is something that will never be emulated by another club. He dominted in Scotland at a time when Scottish football was strong and it wasn't a 2 horse race. Dunfirmlin semi's in European Cup winners cup, Dundee semi's in European Cup & fairs cup, Rangers 3 times runners up in cup winners cup & winners once. I'm not saying it was the best league in the world, but it wasn't what it is now.
all great managers and like i said im not saying who should or shouldnt be knighted they probably all deserve it but mr taggart is ahead of the game in management building team after team and the trophys he has won replacing him will be huge
incidentally fergusons hero in management was jock stein and he regarded him as the best,funnily enough bill shankly said the greatest was matt busby
ferguson worked with stein and was close to busby at old trafford before he passed away so maybe they can take a bit of credit for how he turned outLast edited by thered; 17 May, 2010, 20:54.Comment
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well that tosser simon cowal is rumoured to be getting a sirhood so i guess walter should get one too.Comment
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, but how many good Scottish or even Glaswegians has there been!?
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