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  • andy6
    Newbie
    • Nov 2009
    • 6

    #1

    Red Ring of Death Repair

    I had a RROD on my console, was trying 2 repair it by myself by had no success. I found out that it can not be cured by oven or heat gun.
    The only way to repair the Ring of death is to re flow the disconnected solder joints using an Infrared BGA rework station.
    Heating with an Oven can briefly reconnect the electronic connections but without a full re flow, the problem will reoccur.
    I found the repair centre where you can fix your console for ?40 & they use Infra Red tech. They deal with all consoles, click the link below it's very helpful.
    Xbox360 firmware flash, upgrade & repairs in Manchester & UK
  • cgscott
    V.I.P. Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 3513

    #2
    Originally posted by andy6
    I had a RROD on my console, was trying 2 repair it by myself by had no success. I found out that it can not be cured by oven or heat gun.
    The only way to repair the Ring of death is to re flow the disconnected solder joints using an Infrared BGA rework station.
    Heating with an Oven can briefly reconnect the electronic connections but without a full re flow, the problem will reoccur.
    I found the repair centre where you can fix your console for ?40 & they use Infra Red tech. They deal with all consoles, click the link below it's very helpful.
    Xbox360 firmware flash, upgrade & repairs in Manchester & UK
    Very good. I know people than can do this for much cheaper.
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    • andy6
      Newbie
      • Nov 2009
      • 6

      #3
      Xbox360 RROD repair

      Yes, probably there are lots of repair centres who can do it much cheaper but they don't use latest equipment such as Infra Red BGA soldering station & the fault re occurs very soon.
      if you click on the link below you will see all the advantages of Infra Red tech:
      http://Xbox360 RROD fix PS3 YLOD repair using Infra Red BGA Soldering Station UK, Manchester

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      • biglarge1
        Newbie
        • Nov 2009
        • 1

        #4
        i had rrod on my 360 brought a repair kit from flee bay 4 ?3 and used a hairdryer, worked a treat straight away, but i will say the fan is louder but machine works 100%

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        • cgscott
          V.I.P. Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 3513

          #5
          Originally posted by biglarge1
          i had rrod on my 360 brought a repair kit from flee bay 4 ?3 and used a hairdryer, worked a treat straight away, but i will say the fan is louder but machine works 100%
          You can get a heat gun on ebay for ?10.

          Do the reflow yourself. No problem.
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          • ManofScience
            DK Veteran
            • May 2009
            • 650

            #6
            i like the way you're pretending to act in good faith and telling people about 'These' great people who do these repairs - when it's blatantly your own company as you're pushing your sales in not only here for xbox's but

            PSP stuff http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...uestion-68170/ and http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...irmware-67240/

            Wii Stuff : http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...tml#post350866 - claiming 'soft modding can brick your Wii's' an failing to mention that doing the same updates with certain hard mods in can also brick the wii.

            maybe a bit of honesty would be better looked upon

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            • cgscott
              V.I.P. Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 3513

              #7
              Originally posted by ManofScience
              i like the way you're pretending to act in good faith and telling people about 'These' great people who do these repairs - when it's blatantly your own company as you're pushing your sales in not only here for xbox's but

              PSP stuff http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...uestion-68170/ and http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...irmware-67240/

              Wii Stuff : http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...tml#post350866 - claiming 'soft modding can brick your Wii's' an failing to mention that doing the same updates with certain hard mods in can also brick the wii.

              maybe a bit of honesty would be better looked upon
              Well said.

              Everything anyone need is on the forum.

              You can save money by reading up.

              Also your prices seem a little bit steep to be honest.
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              • tango
                DK Veteran
                • Aug 2008
                • 1033

                #8
                i have to agree
                the site must be andy's has hes pushing it too much
                and tbh andy i would like to see the repairs with that infa red station m8 cos the video only shows u heating the chips up by waving the wand about

                i too do reflows at ?40 but with a proper reflow station (air) and preheater (i see no preheater in your video which is a bad way of doing reflows m8).
                also another fault with your site .... u are stating u are flashing xbox drives with iextreme 1.61 when its not around for all drives especially the hitachi drives and lite-ons

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                • andy6
                  Newbie
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 6

                  #9
                  Originally posted by tango
                  i have to agree
                  the site must be andy's has hes pushing it too much
                  and tbh andy i would like to see the repairs with that infa red station m8 cos the video only shows u heating the chips up by waving the wand about

                  i too do reflows at ?40 but with a proper reflow station (air) and preheater (i see no preheater in your video which is a bad way of doing reflows m8).
                  also another fault with your site .... u are stating u are flashing xbox drives with iextreme 1.61 when its not around for all drives especially the hitachi drives and lite-ons
                  I am not going to give a step by step instruction on the video. Air stations are no good for BGA re flow, there is no way you can safely reach the re flow temperature for Lead Free solder.
                  You are just doing an old fashion botch job.

                  Ixtreme 1.61 is the latest firmware available, so if someone wants that installing on any console, it is viable. You can flash with old firmwares if that's what you want to do.

                  What is your site? I will go through it and point out all the niggly details I don't like!

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                  • cgscott
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 3513

                    #10
                    Originally posted by andy6
                    I am not going to give a step by step instruction on the video. Air stations are no good for BGA re flow, there is no way you can safely reach the re flow temperature for Lead Free solder.
                    You are just doing an old fashion botch job.

                    Ixtreme 1.61 is the latest firmware available, so if someone wants that installing on any console, it is viable. You can flash with old firmwares if that's what you want to do.

                    What is your site? I will go through it and point out all the niggly details I don't like!
                    I dont have a site. I get business by word of mouth.

                    Enough without the need to advertise on a forum.

                    As for the botch job i have repaired many consoles and have had no failures to date.
                    Except from a few in the cupboard which had been previously x clamped by people who did not know what they were doing.

                    As long as you get the correct temp on reflow then its not a problem. Trial and error meant that i have reached that level without having to purchase more expensive equipment.
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                    • Aldormanndiobla
                      Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 54

                      #11
                      Originally posted by andy6
                      What is your site? I will go through it and point out all the niggly details I don't like!
                      Wow, way to drum up business. First pass yourself off as a customer, then everyone is told its your own business, you start bitchin' back to a older forum members.

                      Good luck with your marketing.

                      Real men have FTTH.

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                      • felix11
                        Top Poster
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 151

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cgscott
                        I dont have a site. I get business by word of mouth.

                        Enough without the need to advertise on a forum.

                        As for the botch job i have repaired many consoles and have had no failures to date.
                        Except from a few in the cupboard which had been previously x clamped by people who did not know what they were doing.

                        As long as you get the correct temp on reflow then its not a problem. Trial and error meant that i have reached that level without having to purchase more expensive equipment.
                        What is the correct temp cgs?

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                        • cgscott
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3513

                          #13
                          Originally posted by felix11
                          What is the correct temp cgs?
                          I usually go between 130-160c underneath.

                          Depending on the board the chip itself i will raise it to 200-230c.
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                          • tango
                            DK Veteran
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1033

                            #14
                            Originally posted by andy6
                            I am not going to give a step by step instruction on the video. Air stations are no good for BGA re flow, there is no way you can safely reach the re flow temperature for Lead Free solder.
                            You are just doing an old fashion botch job.

                            Ixtreme 1.61 is the latest firmware available, so if someone wants that installing on any console, it is viable. You can flash with old firmwares if that's what you want to do.

                            What is your site? I will go through it and point out all the niggly details I don't like!
                            1 i never said i had a site
                            2 im a qualified electronics engineer
                            3 the reflow temps can be got with an air reflow station (me and alot of other people have been developing profiles for ages on another forum).
                            4 iextreme isnt the latest firmware for all drives so i guess u better go look again.
                            hitachi drives will only go to 1.51
                            samsung and benq are at 1.61
                            lite-on's are at 1.6

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                            • tango
                              DK Veteran
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1033

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cgscott
                              I usually go between 130-160c underneath.

                              Depending on the board the chip itself i will raise it to 200-230c.
                              tbh i go higher
                              bottom around 170c
                              top goes upto 375 on rework station setting but that wont be the temp on the chip
                              i follow a very good profile thats been working for months now.

                              and forgot to mention ..... @andy the reflow temp for lead-free solder is around the 217-230c mark
                              also the waving about on your wand as in your video isnt actually a reflow now is it?...... its just heating the chip.
                              proper reflow would be with a proper nozzle that fits over the chip and set temps in steps to get to the right reflow temp in a set time..... (the bga chips cant handle anything above 3c per second on any station).
                              and also for the record i too have repaired lots of xboxes like cgscot has, and too dont need a site to promote my repairs word of mouth says it all in my book.

                              i totally agree with cgscot
                              Last edited by tango; 27 November, 2009, 00:31.

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